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Owls, Hawks, Coyotes, Bobcats, Gophers are the Biggest Threat to My Food Supply

 
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Owls, Hawks, Coyotes, Bobcats, Gophers are the Biggest Threat to My Food Supply
Lost another chicken to what I am pretty sure is the owl(s) that have been stocking them. Same owl is under suspicion of killing our cat as well about a month ago. Another chicken has survived an attack by a Hawk and a Coyote. In both cases I came up on the scene while it was in progress. Hawk had stripped all feathers from the neck and was getting ready to grab and go when I got there. About two months later the coyote was chasing this same chicken Benny Hill style around the pen and tore off most of its tail feathers. I couldn't get to my gun quick enough so I shouted it away.

Now the gophers are back to tear into our root vegetables. We got traps everywhere but they have eluded them so far.

Nature does not relent.

Update: Turns out it was a Bobcat. Was woke up this morning by chicken ruckus at approximate same time. Looked out the window, and he/she was standing on a pile of rounds staged for splitting that were too close to the fence. He was going to jump in the pen, but it stopped when it saw/heard me. It paused a good 15 seconds and then took off so I got a good look. It was a big one, for a bobcat.

Last Edited by BeelzeBob on 07/10/2022 12:13 PM
I'm not from Canada, not that there's anything wrong with that.....
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Be more inclusive. Make them a part of your food supply.

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Re: Owls, Hawks, Coyotes, Bobcats, Gophers are the Biggest Threat to My Food Supply
Lost another chicken to what I am pretty sure is the owl(s) that have been stocking them. Same owl is under suspicion of killing our cat as well about a month ago. Another chicken has survived an attack by a Hawk and a Coyote. In both cases I came up on the scene while it was in progress. Hawk had stripped all feathers from the neck and was getting ready to grab and go when I got there. About two months later the coyote was chasing this same chicken Benny Hill style around the pen and tore off most of its tail feathers. I couldn't get to my gun quick enough so I shouted it away.

Now the gophers are back to tear into our root vegetables. We got traps everywhere but they have eluded them so far.

Nature does not relent.
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get a deer

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Re: Owls, Hawks, Coyotes, Bobcats, Gophers are the Biggest Threat to My Food Supply
Just shot em and bury em so no one finds out.

All these laws about how you can't protect your livestock are absurd.

Also hanging up old CDs can royally screw with the predator birds perception.
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Re: Owls, Hawks, Coyotes, Bobcats, Gophers are the Biggest Threat to My Food Supply
Just shot em and bury em so no one finds out.

All these laws about how you can't protect your livestock are absurd.

Also hanging up old CDs can royally screw with the predator birds perception.
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Lets just say I have a "friend" who has done that once. Hawks are far too cocky. The owl is no longer on my good list.

I have been running string across top of chicken field area for that reason but had a couple of big gaps for a bird to land. This last one was right at sun up and owls will be up and about until almost noon. They are surprising agile too so thinking it landed...walked into the coop and attacked. No coyote prints anywhere
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Gopher stew is pretty delicious. Coyote chops are great for a barbecue.
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Gopher stew is pretty delicious. Coyote chops are great for a barbecue.
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Yes, as much as I hate indiscriminate killing of animals, this is crossing the line. My "friends" action in dealing with the hawk may be how the owl gets dealt with.

And for me it will suck to kill a coyote because they look so much like dogs. The ones around here are pretty big animals...as tall or talling than a german shepard.

I would probably bite the head off of the gopher if I could catch them. I feel like Bill Murray in Caddyshack and I totally get his frustration. One of these things move about as much dirt as 4 moles. They destroyed ALL of our beets last year.

I have four different traps and a sound-device that supposed to be unpleasant to them. If I can find a major thoroughfare away from food, I'm going to poison next. Nukes to follow.

Last Edited by BeelzeBob on 07/09/2022 09:12 PM
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Just shot em and bury em so no one finds out.

All these laws about how you can't protect your livestock are absurd.

Also hanging up old CDs can royally screw with the predator birds perception.
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Right now I have string criss-crossing everywhere to deter winged predators from accessing the coop or pen. They don't like to get tangled, however I have watched owls navigate really dense woods quite gracefully. They are a large bird and hardly flap their wings to move through the woods.

Also found out their hiss/screech sounds quite a bit like a hawk.
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Trapping coyotes is an art form, I highly suggest checking out some tutorials on youtube. Search for "coyote sets". Good luck!
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Re: Owls, Hawks, Coyotes, Bobcats, Gophers are the Biggest Threat to My Food Supply
Lost another chicken to what I am pretty sure is the owl(s) that have been stocking them. Same owl is under suspicion of killing our cat as well about a month ago. Another chicken has survived an attack by a Hawk and a Coyote. In both cases I came up on the scene while it was in progress. Hawk had stripped all feathers from the neck and was getting ready to grab and go when I got there. About two months later the coyote was chasing this same chicken Benny Hill style around the pen and tore off most of its tail feathers. I couldn't get to my gun quick enough so I shouted it away.

Now the gophers are back to tear into our root vegetables. We got traps everywhere but they have eluded them so far.

Nature does not relent.
 Quoting: BeelzeBob


Tell me about it. I've lost quite afew chickens to a shrew. It bites them, them goes for the neck, then eats half the breast and pulls out the guts. This shrew isn't bigger than 4 or 5 inches long, but it's sneaky and won't go into the trap i've set.
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Re: Owls, Hawks, Coyotes, Bobcats, Gophers are the Biggest Threat to My Food Supply
Lost another chicken to what I am pretty sure is the owl(s) that have been stocking them. Same owl is under suspicion of killing our cat as well about a month ago. Another chicken has survived an attack by a Hawk and a Coyote. In both cases I came up on the scene while it was in progress. Hawk had stripped all feathers from the neck and was getting ready to grab and go when I got there. About two months later the coyote was chasing this same chicken Benny Hill style around the pen and tore off most of its tail feathers. I couldn't get to my gun quick enough so I shouted it away.

Now the gophers are back to tear into our root vegetables. We got traps everywhere but they have eluded them so far.

Nature does not relent.
 Quoting: BeelzeBob


Time to start eating Owls, Hawks, Coyotes and Gophers
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Re: Owls, Hawks, Coyotes, Bobcats, Gophers are the Biggest Threat to My Food Supply
Lost another chicken to what I am pretty sure is the owl(s) that have been stocking them. Same owl is under suspicion of killing our cat as well about a month ago. Another chicken has survived an attack by a Hawk and a Coyote. In both cases I came up on the scene while it was in progress. Hawk had stripped all feathers from the neck and was getting ready to grab and go when I got there. About two months later the coyote was chasing this same chicken Benny Hill style around the pen and tore off most of its tail feathers. I couldn't get to my gun quick enough so I shouted it away.

Now the gophers are back to tear into our root vegetables. We got traps everywhere but they have eluded them so far.

Nature does not relent.
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Time to start eating Owls, Hawks, Coyotes and Gophers
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Previously, I actually...er uh...I mean my friend looked up recipes online for the Hawk..there were zero. My guess is you would cook em like chuckers or other small bird.

Coyotes would be weird to eat...basically dog. Gophers...I'd skin alive at this point. I feel like owls would actually be really good eating.
I'm not from Canada, not that there's anything wrong with that.....
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Ants are mine, leave a hatch unbattened for a minute and they at it. I used to didnt kill them but lately im like die little suckers!
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Someone is releasing predators near population neighborhoods anticipating outlawing guns and reducing human populations and or moving humans in dense cities
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Make their run area covered and put the spiking in the ground to keep anything from being able to dig in.
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Get a scarecrow
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ewwweuuuu... put a large plastic owl on the peak of one of your buildings (closest to the hen house) and that will keep the owls and hawks away ... but not the eagles, who like chicken too - especially pullets ... but you have got to put a roof on your chicken yard ... I used 4x10s posts - and strung chicken wire over mine - and this years (first time in ten) I can't let my chickens free-range ... too many foxes (they climb and dig) and cayotes hunting in broad daylight ...getting push out by urban sprawl ... back into my fields

raised beds for your root-plants should keep the gophers out of your garden ... and save your back some pain as well

if you put down some (woven) garden cloth that might deter them too ... and keep the weeds from growing as well

you have to be smarter than the predators ,.. I always found that putting blood meal around my beds keep the rabbits (and deer) out - and Neem Oil works great for all sorts of bugs- and so does DE in the soil - especially if you are using manure to fertilize

it's a challenge - but you're up to it
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Get a scarecrow
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Or two. Or six. Aren't there things you can grow around that will dissuade them from the good stuff?
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Little donkey will vigorously guard from coyote and other nuisance predators.
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Get a scarecrow
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Or two. Or six. Aren't there things you can grow around that will dissuade them from the good stuff?
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Yeh, some things like thyme, and a few others. We're trying everything for the gofers

The birds and gophers are fearless, if they could flip us off, they would.
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Little donkey will vigorously guard from coyote and other nuisance predators.
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Interesting, we also need to get a rooster.
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Why don't you put your chickens in a predator proof coop at night? Chickens are prey creatures so naturally predators will be drawn to them. It is your responsibility to provide shelter for them. This protects them and also protects wildlife from you. Also, like the poster said a donkey or two will keep coyotes and other predators away.
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You could also play Yoko Ono all night on repeat.
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We have a family of opossums that eat everything. Those idiots poop in the water dish for the wild cats.
What animal poops where they drink?? Opossums. Gross!
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Re: Owls, Hawks, Coyotes, Bobcats, Gophers are the Biggest Threat to My Food Supply
Why don't you put your chickens in a predator proof coop at night? Chickens are prey creatures so naturally predators will be drawn to them. It is your responsibility to provide shelter for them. This protects them and also protects wildlife from you. Also, like the poster said a donkey or two will keep coyotes and other predators away.
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It is my responsibility to protect them and that doesn't necessary mean building a predator proof cage. The have a roost and a night pen but it doesn't seal tight. I have managed 2 years with these birds. Lost one early on during middle of day while they were free ranging. Cause unknown. We ended the free range and built a fence for a bigger area to use during day. At night they are in a gated smaller area, but not a full cage enclosure. The only other chick we lost was due to a clogged neck, so only down 1 to predators in 2 years.

The animal that defeated this system turned out to be a bobcat that had used a pile of rounds I had set up for the wood splitter. The pile was about about 5 feet from the fence and gave the cat easy access to jump over. How do I know? I was woke up by chickens clucking this morning looked out the window and saw the bobcat...large one, on the pile and getting ready to jump. He heard/saw me, paused for about 15 seconds and then took off.

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there is a wonderful invention called, chicken wire.

herbivores shouldn't eat meat btw.

no wonder the hawks and gophers keep beating you, one on one.

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Be VERY CAREFUL NOT TO FUCK WITH CERTAIN CRITTERS LIKE COYOTES, BLACK WOLVES, Others....

They NOT What YOU THINK!! They can turn into 9 ft. huge BLACK DOGS that walk on two legs and can grab you and take you into other dimensions as a meal, guns do NOTHING for they go into the 4th D.

Many are assigned to WATCH OVER ET Human Friends and Lots of Thugs never return. They just find their cars abandoned...
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Be VERY CAREFUL NOT TO FUCK WITH CERTAIN CRITTERS LIKE COYOTES, BLACK WOLVES, Others....

They NOT What YOU THINK!! They can turn into 9 ft. huge BLACK DOGS that walk on two legs and can grab you and take you into other dimensions as a meal, guns do NOTHING for they go into the 4th D.

Many are assigned to WATCH OVER ET Human Friends and Lots of Thugs never return. They just find their cars abandoned...
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If I hadn't had my own encounters in my incredibly rural home with Dogmen, I would laugh at what you are saying.

But sadly after barely surviving multiple dogman attacks over the years, and having several other cryptid encounters out here, I know you are telling the truth.

I also caught a Pale Crawler in the act of eating one of my chicken nearly 25-30 years ago.
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