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Recommended phone apps for grid-down scenarios.

I have been collecting and testing various Android phone apps that can help with survival even with zero internet connectivity. I'm assuming there are similar iOS apps out there but I have not tested any. I may use the one iPad I have to experiment with those next year.

Some of these apps will request network permissions. This is usually for updating or ad purposes. You can choose to allow this permission or not but the app will still function.

This list is by no means comprehensive, and I welcome any other suggestions anyone might have. You will also notice there are some redundant apps listed. This is for two reasons - First, some apps might not be available for certain phones. Second, redundancy in the field is a requirement for survival. "Two is one. One is none." Having two similar apps is recommended in case one fails for some reason.

I recommend testing the functionality of these apps on an annual basis (I do it at the end of every year, as well look for new apps). The navigation apps that allow downloading of maps to internal storage for offline use - make sure you perform that download *prior* to the SHTF scenario. I know that sounds obvious, but it's a critical step for those apps to function offline.

Invariably, someone always says, "Yeah, but your phone will be fried if there's an EMP." This is largely inaccurate. If your phone is connected to a wall charger at the moment of the EMP, then yes, that phone is probably dead. However, if you are out and about during your normal day, your phone will *probably* survive an EMP. I won't go into the science of it, but trust me, the odds are pretty good it will survive a HEMP. If you're close enough to an airburst or groundburst detonation for the EMP to fry the phone, well... you're dead anyway. That being said, I have an older smartphone that I keep loaded with apps like this sitting in a fireproof safe in our basement as a backup in case I lose my primary phone for any reason. Again, "Two is one. One is none."

In alphabetical order:

1: Army Survival Handbook - This is a digital version of the US Army's FM 21-76 Survival Manual. A *lot* of useful information on survival techniques in various environments.

2: BackCountry Navigator Pro - This app allows the download of topographical maps of any area for offline access and navigation by the phone's built-in GPS system (assuming GPS satellites are still working). Still very useful even without GPS functionality. They have a free version that you can try, but I recommend the Pro purchase.

3: Basic Compass App (there are several of them out there; just make sure network access is not required for it to work and it only uses the phone's built-in GPS sensors).

4: EmRadDose - Medical treatment of radiation exposure victims depending on method of exposure.

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5: First Aid App (multiple versions out there, but I use the one provided by the American Red Cross).

6: Flashlight App (again, there are several available. Find one that has some good options, including an automatic SOS blinking pattern, different color possibilities, different levels of brightness, etc.)

7: Google Maps - Allows downloading area maps for offline access.

8: Google Translate - Allows downloading of multiple languages to store internally for offline translation capabilities.

9: Kiwix - App that allows downloading of various wikis for offline access, including Wikipedia. Very handy for referencing information outside your knowledge base.

10: LunaSolCal - Sunrise/Sunset times for your location.

11: Mobile REMM - Information on radiation exposure, triage, treatment, decontamination, etc.

12: Off-Grid GPS - Allows you to set waypoints that you can later select and the app will tell you distance, direction of travel, and elevation difference between the waypoints and your current location.

13: SHTF Tools - A simple app with compass and flashlight tools. Redundant to some of the others I've listed.

14: SkyMap - Stellar navigation.

15: SurvivalGuide - This is another digital version of the US Army's FM 21-76 Survival Manual.

16: Survival Manual - Digital version of US Army FM 3-05.70 which is the replacement for the FM 21-76.

17: Trail Sense - Another offline GPS navigation app specifically designed for remote areas with no cellular service.

18: Ultimate Close Combat Manual - Military-style hand-to-hand fighting and self-defense techniques.

19: US Topo Maps - Offline mapping/navigation app that allows internal storage of map data.

Phone Charging: Most people who are going to have these types of apps on their phones are probably going to already have alternate means of electricity which will allow them to keep their phone charged, but if not, they make some very inexpensive charging units that rely on solar power, hand-cranking power, or both, to allow people to charge small devices. You absolutely need a couple of alternate methods of charging your phone in a grid-down scenario, but here are some tips to conserve battery power:

1: Turn off 5G/4G/LTE, wi-fi, and bluetooth. In a SHTF scenario, you're likely not connecting to the internet anyway. Keep GPS turned off unless you're actively using it.

2: Uninstall or disable any internet-reliant apps such as browsers, e-mail, texting, or any app that constantly runs in the background that you don't absolutely need.

3: Dim your phone's brightness to at least 50%.

4: Turn off your phone when not in use.

Please let me know if you have anything to add to this list and I will edit it as needed.
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Recommended phone apps for grid-down scenarios.

I have been collecting and testing various Android phone apps that can help with survival even with zero internet connectivity. I'm assuming there are similar iOS apps out there but I have not tested any. I may use the one iPad I have to experiment with those next year.

Some of these apps will request network permissions. This is usually for updating or ad purposes. You can choose to allow this permission or not but the app will still function.

This list is by no means comprehensive, and I welcome any other suggestions anyone might have. You will also notice there are some redundant apps listed. This is for two reasons - First, some apps might not be available for certain phones. Second, redundancy in the field is a requirement for survival. "Two is one. One is none." Having two similar apps is recommended in case one fails for some reason.

I recommend testing the functionality of these apps on an annual basis (I do it at the end of every year, as well look for new apps). The navigation apps that allow downloading of maps to internal storage for offline use - make sure you perform that download *prior* to the SHTF scenario. I know that sounds obvious, but it's a critical step for those apps to function offline.

Invariably, someone always says, "Yeah, but your phone will be fried if there's an EMP." This is largely inaccurate. If your phone is connected to a wall charger at the moment of the EMP, then yes, that phone is probably dead. However, if you are out and about during your normal day, your phone will *probably* survive an EMP. I won't go into the science of it, but trust me, the odds are pretty good it will survive a HEMP. If you're close enough to an airburst or groundburst detonation for the EMP to fry the phone, well... you're dead anyway. That being said, I have an older smartphone that I keep loaded with apps like this sitting in a fireproof safe in our basement as a backup in case I lose my primary phone for any reason. Again, "Two is one. One is none."

In alphabetical order:

1: Army Survival Handbook - This is a digital version of the US Army's FM 21-76 Survival Manual. A *lot* of useful information on survival techniques in various environments.

[link to thesurvivalmom.com (secure)]

2: BackCountry Navigator Pro - This app allows the download of topographical maps of any area for offline access and navigation by the phone's built-in GPS system (assuming GPS satellites are still working). Still very useful even without GPS functionality. They have a free version that you can try, but I recommend the Pro purchase.

3: Basic Compass App (there are several of them out there; just make sure network access is not required for it to work and it only uses the phone's built-in GPS sensors).

4: EmRadDose - Medical treatment of radiation exposure victims depending on method of exposure.

5: First Aid App (multiple versions out there, but I use the one provided by the American Red Cross).

6: Flashlight App (again, there are several available. Find one that has some good options, including an automatic SOS blinking pattern, different color possibilities, different levels of brightness, etc.)

7: Google Maps - Allows downloading area maps for offline access.

8: Google Translate - Allows downloading of multiple languages to store internally for offline translation capabilities.

9: Kiwix - App that allows downloading of various wikis for offline access, including Wikipedia. Very handy for referencing information outside your knowledge base.

10: LunaSolCal - Sunrise/Sunset times for your location.

11: Mobile REMM - Information on radiation exposure, triage, treatment, decontamination, etc.

12: Off-Grid GPS - Allows you to set waypoints that you can later select and the app will tell you distance, direction of travel, and elevation difference between the waypoints and your current location.

13: SHTF Tools - A simple app with compass and flashlight tools. Redundant to some of the others I've listed.

14: SkyMap - Stellar navigation.

15: SurvivalGuide - This is another digital version of the US Army's FM 21-76 Survival Manual.

16: Survival Manual - Digital version of US Army FM 3-05.70 which is the replacement for the FM 21-76.

17: Trail Sense - Another offline GPS navigation app specifically designed for remote areas with no cellular service.

18: Ultimate Close Combat Manual - Military-style hand-to-hand fighting and self-defense techniques.

19: US Topo Maps - Offline mapping/navigation app that allows internal storage of map data.

Phone Charging: Most people who are going to have these types of apps on their phones are probably going to already have alternate means of electricity which will allow them to keep their phone charged, but if not, they make some very inexpensive charging units that rely on solar power, hand-cranking power, or both, to allow people to charge small devices. You absolutely need a couple of alternate methods of charging your phone in a grid-down scenario, but here are some tips to conserve battery power:

1: Turn off 5G/4G/LTE, wi-fi, and bluetooth. In a SHTF scenario, you're likely not connecting to the internet anyway. Keep GPS turned off unless you're actively using it.

2: Uninstall or disable any internet-reliant apps such as browsers, e-mail, texting, or any app that constantly runs in the background that you don't absolutely need.

3: Dim your phone's brightness to at least 50%.

4: Turn off your phone when not in use.

Please let me know if you have anything to add to this list and I will edit it as needed.
Lago
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Thread: Dec 4! Something Just Went BEZERK in the Red Sea. The US Navy just shot down some Houthi drones Pentagon: MAJOR escalation!!
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Riff...

How much longer is it going to take until someone in Ukraine or Russia says calf roped?

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Riff...

How much longer is it going to take until someone in Ukraine or Russia says calf roped?

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Years. It is not outside the realm of possibility for Ukraine to turn into an extended conflict along the lines of Korea or Vietnam.
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Sorry I'm late! Just a head's up to watch out for next weekend. Too soon for actual area's, but should have better data on Wednesday or so.
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bump to keep in mind.
Working on it
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Just a heads up.
Seems the reports of Covid gaining momentum are true based on an unsolicited message I received from a friend who is an EMT.

Basically told me to try and avoid gatherings because it’s picking up speed based on what they are seeing in their job setting.

They aren’t someone prone to alarmism..etc.
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Just a heads up.
Seems the reports of Covid gaining momentum are true based on an unsolicited message I received from a friend who is an EMT.

Basically told me to try and avoid gatherings because it’s picking up speed based on what they are seeing in their job setting.

They aren’t someone prone to alarmism..etc.
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Thanks Guythu. Paying attention. Seems my county has gone from 1 covid death a month to 5 a month the last 2 months. Can't link the story I read, it's got a paywall. I need to do more checking. I do know there has been an increase in funerals around here lately. Nothing to pin your hat on, though.
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Just a heads up.
Seems the reports of Covid gaining momentum are true based on an unsolicited message I received from a friend who is an EMT.

Basically told me to try and avoid gatherings because it’s picking up speed based on what they are seeing in their job setting.

They aren’t someone prone to alarmism..etc.
 Quoting: Guythu


My teens each worked with covid positive people at their different places of employment early last week. Ugh.

They did not get it, thankfully, but one did test positive for flu.
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Raffette just got notified yesterday she had close contact with someone who tested positive for covid in her office, and I've had a couple of clients cone down with it.

Do we know what strain we're dealing with?
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Raffette just got notified yesterday she had close contact with someone who tested positive for covid in her office, and I've had a couple of clients cone down with it.

Do we know what strain we're dealing with?
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Some kind of Omicron Variant

What is more concerning, Mokdad said, is that very few Americans have taken the updated Covid vaccine. Currently, just 16% of adults in the U.S. have had the shot

Anybody here still taking Covid Jabs?

I sure as hell ain't

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Raffette just got notified yesterday she had close contact with someone who tested positive for covid in her office, and I've had a couple of clients cone down with it.

Do we know what strain we're dealing with?
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Best guess..
Although JN.1 is expected to become dominant.
Hold onto your hats.
Looks like it’s going to get rough.

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Raffette just got notified yesterday she had close contact with someone who tested positive for covid in her office, and I've had a couple of clients cone down with it.

Do we know what strain we're dealing with?
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Some kind of Omicron Variant

What is more concerning, Mokdad said, is that very few Americans have taken the updated Covid vaccine. Currently, just 16% of adults in the U.S. have had the shot

Anybody here still taking Covid Jabs?

I sure as hell ain't

rockon
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Freshly boosted last month. I still only have two testicles so far.
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Preparing for oil shipment disruptions?

A US Department of Defense official told Sky News Arabia: The international force to protect navigation in the Red Sea will include member states of Centcom.

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Riff...

How much longer is it going to take until someone in Ukraine or Russia says calf roped?

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 Quoting: Hugh G. Reckshon


Years. It is not outside the realm of possibility for Ukraine to turn into an extended conflict along the lines of Korea or Vietnam.
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Riff...IMO

Putin will never relinquish the land bridge to Crimea, if it is ever truthfully in danger of falling to Ukraine, Putin will not hesitate to use Tac Nukes

What do you make of the upcoming war between Guyana–Venezuela

They're bringing the fight to the western hemisphere

Why do we always support the undermanned

Ukraine vs Russia
Ukr 38,000,000 Ru 143,556,000

Taiwan vs China
NRA 23,889,000 CCP 1,425,671,000

Israel vs Islam
Israel 9,233,070 Islam 1,800,000,000

Numbers really don't favor the West

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Sometimes you have to ask “why now?”

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Riff...

How much longer is it going to take until someone in Ukraine or Russia says calf roped?

scratching
 Quoting: Hugh G. Reckshon


Years. It is not outside the realm of possibility for Ukraine to turn into an extended conflict along the lines of Korea or Vietnam.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Riff...IMO

Putin will never relinquish the land bridge to Crimea, if it is ever truthfully in danger of falling to Ukraine, Putin will not hesitate to use Tac Nukes

What do you make of the upcoming war between Guyana–Venezuela

They're bringing the fight to the western hemisphere

Why do we always support the undermanned

Ukraine vs Russia
Ukr 38,000,000 Ru 143,556,000

Taiwan vs China
NRA 23,889,000 CCP 1,425,671,000

Israel vs Islam
Israel 9,233,070 Islam 1,800,000,000

Numbers really don't favor the West

spock
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Sometimes I forget the instituted state mind instilled into the children of China.
They are starting to grow up.
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Is this “White Lung” by another name?

Thread: The 100 Day Cough Disease...
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Raffette just got notified yesterday she had close contact with someone who tested positive for covid in her office, and I've had a couple of clients cone down with it.

Do we know what strain we're dealing with?
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Some kind of Omicron Variant

What is more concerning, Mokdad said, is that very few Americans have taken the updated Covid vaccine. Currently, just 16% of adults in the U.S. have had the shot

Anybody here still taking Covid Jabs?

I sure as hell ain't

rockon
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Freshly boosted last month. I still only have two testicles so far.
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Any issues from booster? I have been blowing it off, but I am thinking it's time
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Raffette just got notified yesterday she had close contact with someone who tested positive for covid in her office, and I've had a couple of clients cone down with it.

Do we know what strain we're dealing with?
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Some kind of Omicron Variant

What is more concerning, Mokdad said, is that very few Americans have taken the updated Covid vaccine. Currently, just 16% of adults in the U.S. have had the shot

Anybody here still taking Covid Jabs?

I sure as hell ain't

rockon
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Freshly boosted last month. I still only have two testicles so far.
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Any issues from booster? I have been blowing it off, but I am thinking it's time
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My wife and I both got it at the same time. No issues with either one of us whatsoever.
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Riff...

How much longer is it going to take until someone in Ukraine or Russia says calf roped?

scratching
 Quoting: Hugh G. Reckshon


Years. It is not outside the realm of possibility for Ukraine to turn into an extended conflict along the lines of Korea or Vietnam.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Riff...IMO

Putin will never relinquish the land bridge to Crimea, if it is ever truthfully in danger of falling to Ukraine, Putin will not hesitate to use Tac Nukes

What do you make of the upcoming war between Guyana–Venezuela

They're bringing the fight to the western hemisphere

Why do we always support the undermanned

Ukraine vs Russia
Ukr 38,000,000 Ru 143,556,000

Taiwan vs China
NRA 23,889,000 CCP 1,425,671,000

Israel vs Islam
Israel 9,233,070 Islam 1,800,000,000

Numbers really don't favor the West

spock
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Putin will absolutely use nukes to protect Crimea. Just don't see Crimea being at that great a risk from Ukraine right now.
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Riff...

What's the concern of the the upcoming war between Guyana–Venezuela?

Cuba, Russia, China along with Iran are looking to me to be wanting start a war here in the Western Hemisphere

This could be bad if Venezuela does start a major confrontation in SA

dick
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Raffette just got notified yesterday she had close contact with someone who tested positive for covid in her office, and I've had a couple of clients cone down with it.

Do we know what strain we're dealing with?
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Some kind of Omicron Variant

What is more concerning, Mokdad said, is that very few Americans have taken the updated Covid vaccine. Currently, just 16% of adults in the U.S. have had the shot

Anybody here still taking Covid Jabs?

I sure as hell ain't

rockon
 Quoting: Hugh G. Reckshon


Freshly boosted last month. I still only have two testicles so far.
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Riff...

If I was in the same situation as last year I'd take one

I've been Jabbed 3 times "Moderna's the Shit"

Had the Vid once, may have some immunity

Got my Flu shot, but going to sit the MRA Vax out this year

By the time they ever get to saying how effective/harmful they are, I'll be gone

rockon

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Riff...

What's the concern of the the upcoming war between Guyana–Venezuela?

Cuba, Russia, China along with Iran are looking to me to be wanting start a war here in the Western Hemisphere

This could be bad if Venezuela does start a major confrontation in SA

dick
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The US doesn't give a shit about Guyana. They're just going through the motions right now. If Venezuela completely invades Guyana, nobody is going to lift a finger to stop them, except the usual useless condemnations from the UN. I'd be surprised if it even made the MSM news cycle.
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Raffette just got notified yesterday she had close contact with someone who tested positive for covid in her office, and I've had a couple of clients cone down with it.

Do we know what strain we're dealing with?
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Some kind of Omicron Variant

What is more concerning, Mokdad said, is that very few Americans have taken the updated Covid vaccine. Currently, just 16% of adults in the U.S. have had the shot

Anybody here still taking Covid Jabs?

I sure as hell ain't

rockon
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Freshly boosted last month. I still only have two testicles so far.
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Same here! It hasn't improved their operation though, my wife still isn't pregnant.
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Thanks Texan! I still can't believe its been over three decades with our twins! We are going to be the best grandparents ever! Noise toys, electric cars, drums, our children are going to love us..

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