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Gangstalking reasons.

 
MagentaMage

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while the bolded can be true, it is fleeting and won't sustain. There is no way a person can endure years of torture and come out a better person. Esp. when they have no support structure, and, this current society isn't conducive to helping the down and out in loving and caring ways. It is a cruel place to be these days. Life is worthless to most of the common humans and with this group doing this stuff, well it seems even more the case.
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It also fails to cause the victim to empathize with the politics of the torturers after the fact. Nice try, though. Other people have hurt me to make a point before. The message that got across was that they are vicious.
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yes I have been back and forth with the not gonna ever empathize and then I get pulled back in. It doesn't help that they have mined my heart and used who I love to the core as the carrot trying to make me believe there is some sort of reconciliation and happy ending. I know painfully, foolishly differently now. Ya know. it is really sad because I could have made a difference in the world and provided talents and gifts. Not anymore, I just want to disappear because I know that is the only way it will go away. My hopes and dreams have been used against me and I overcame tremendous odds and did what I thought I should do for "them" over and over, it never stops. The hard part is knowing the hypocrisy involved in the expectations put upon me. That is how I came to realize that has to be for inspiration and entertainment purposes, a pasttime of a rich and powerful person, like a personal jester or private dancer, sigh.... To them, my struggle and strife was more important than me finding joy yet I was supposed to show and express joy like a good little controlled puppet. There is no joy, less to believe in anymore and definitely no hope.
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I expected as much from the beginning, frankly. I should have killed myself at sixteen when it happened the second time. It isn't just the rich, though: it is pretty deeply engrained in the psyche throughout the ethnicity. Just the reasoning changes. It's why the text insists on forgiveness much more strongly than it tells people not to do something that would require forgiveness later. The person it favors is the guy who says "better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission." In the end, it's just easier not to care for anyone, anywhere at all. Sorry to say.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!


it is easier to just not care, I am getting better at that, and it has been a problem my whole life, beating the odds and caring even for an abuser. I am caring less and less but still do appreciate an honest connection. I don't think I could like myself if I didn't care about the things that were important to me. I have already seen the change and it isn't sitting well.
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It also fails to cause the victim to empathize with the politics of the torturers after the fact. Nice try, though. Other people have hurt me to make a point before. The message that got across was that they are vicious.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!


yes I have been back and forth with the not gonna ever empathize and then I get pulled back in. It doesn't help that they have mined my heart and used who I love to the core as the carrot trying to make me believe there is some sort of reconciliation and happy ending. I know painfully, foolishly differently now. Ya know. it is really sad because I could have made a difference in the world and provided talents and gifts. Not anymore, I just want to disappear because I know that is the only way it will go away. My hopes and dreams have been used against me and I overcame tremendous odds and did what I thought I should do for "them" over and over, it never stops. The hard part is knowing the hypocrisy involved in the expectations put upon me. That is how I came to realize that has to be for inspiration and entertainment purposes, a pasttime of a rich and powerful person, like a personal jester or private dancer, sigh.... To them, my struggle and strife was more important than me finding joy yet I was supposed to show and express joy like a good little controlled puppet. There is no joy, less to believe in anymore and definitely no hope.
 Quoting: MagentaMage


I expected as much from the beginning, frankly. I should have killed myself at sixteen when it happened the second time. It isn't just the rich, though: it is pretty deeply engrained in the psyche throughout the ethnicity. Just the reasoning changes. It's why the text insists on forgiveness much more strongly than it tells people not to do something that would require forgiveness later. The person it favors is the guy who says "better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission." In the end, it's just easier not to care for anyone, anywhere at all. Sorry to say.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!


it is easier to just not care, I am getting better at that, and it has been a problem my whole life, beating the odds and caring even for an abuser. I am caring less and less but still do appreciate an honest connection. I don't think I could like myself if I didn't care about the things that were important to me. I have already seen the change and it isn't sitting well.
 Quoting: MagentaMage


I really wish you wouldn't pretend to be my friend, even virtually. Warming to you only leads back to the people who are the beneficiaries of this and let's be honest: if it was going to work, coercion wouldn't have been necessary. And that was the first resort for them, not the last. I wanted to stay alive, but it's the same story and eventually I'm going to have my hand forced. People can't accept that I don't want to come back because my feelings on the matter were never considered, only how much it would cost to make me change my mind or force me to with appropriate compensation. People who think like that I just can't bring myself to care if they lose or die, and that goes for those who depend on them to stay alive, because eventually they too have to sacrifice their conscience. Which means I now have my answer as to why I was abused. And it had nothing to do with God. Anyway, if you were planning on saying something, let it be interesting. Just know it almost certainly isn't going to convince me either way.
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yes I have been back and forth with the not gonna ever empathize and then I get pulled back in. It doesn't help that they have mined my heart and used who I love to the core as the carrot trying to make me believe there is some sort of reconciliation and happy ending. I know painfully, foolishly differently now. Ya know. it is really sad because I could have made a difference in the world and provided talents and gifts. Not anymore, I just want to disappear because I know that is the only way it will go away. My hopes and dreams have been used against me and I overcame tremendous odds and did what I thought I should do for "them" over and over, it never stops. The hard part is knowing the hypocrisy involved in the expectations put upon me. That is how I came to realize that has to be for inspiration and entertainment purposes, a pasttime of a rich and powerful person, like a personal jester or private dancer, sigh.... To them, my struggle and strife was more important than me finding joy yet I was supposed to show and express joy like a good little controlled puppet. There is no joy, less to believe in anymore and definitely no hope.
 Quoting: MagentaMage


I expected as much from the beginning, frankly. I should have killed myself at sixteen when it happened the second time. It isn't just the rich, though: it is pretty deeply engrained in the psyche throughout the ethnicity. Just the reasoning changes. It's why the text insists on forgiveness much more strongly than it tells people not to do something that would require forgiveness later. The person it favors is the guy who says "better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission." In the end, it's just easier not to care for anyone, anywhere at all. Sorry to say.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!


it is easier to just not care, I am getting better at that, and it has been a problem my whole life, beating the odds and caring even for an abuser. I am caring less and less but still do appreciate an honest connection. I don't think I could like myself if I didn't care about the things that were important to me. I have already seen the change and it isn't sitting well.
 Quoting: MagentaMage


I really wish you wouldn't pretend to be my friend, even virtually. Warming to you only leads back to the people who are the beneficiaries of this and let's be honest: if it was going to work, coercion wouldn't have been necessary. And that was the first resort for them, not the last. I wanted to stay alive, but it's the same story and eventually I'm going to have my hand forced. People can't accept that I don't want to come back because my feelings on the matter were never considered, only how much it would cost to make me change my mind or force me to with appropriate compensation. People who think like that I just can't bring myself to care if they lose or die, and that goes for those who depend on them to stay alive, because eventually they too have to sacrifice their conscience. Which means I now have my answer as to why I was abused. And it had nothing to do with God. Anyway, if you were planning on saying something, let it be interesting. Just know it almost certainly isn't going to convince me either way.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!


I am not being fake, coercive or inauthentic in my conversation with you. I understand why you would write that though. We don't trust anyone after going through this and coming to know sort of what it may be about. I don't trust anyone either, no one. I have become a hardened, distrusting husk of what was once a vibrant, dancing, artistic, altruistic humanitarian who wanted to save endangered animals and express myself in creative ways. The shine is gone. I understand why you would warn me but my conversation is authentic, which is my own stupid vulnerability still and obvious weakness that I must eliminate somehow to survive? Damn, what is the purpose of this?
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or, perhaps I mentioned something that piqued you and caused you distress. I am an empath so it isn't something I am trying to deceive you with. I am just relating because you and I seem to have a good discourse.
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I expected as much from the beginning, frankly. I should have killed myself at sixteen when it happened the second time. It isn't just the rich, though: it is pretty deeply engrained in the psyche throughout the ethnicity. Just the reasoning changes. It's why the text insists on forgiveness much more strongly than it tells people not to do something that would require forgiveness later. The person it favors is the guy who says "better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission." In the end, it's just easier not to care for anyone, anywhere at all. Sorry to say.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!


it is easier to just not care, I am getting better at that, and it has been a problem my whole life, beating the odds and caring even for an abuser. I am caring less and less but still do appreciate an honest connection. I don't think I could like myself if I didn't care about the things that were important to me. I have already seen the change and it isn't sitting well.
 Quoting: MagentaMage


I really wish you wouldn't pretend to be my friend, even virtually. Warming to you only leads back to the people who are the beneficiaries of this and let's be honest: if it was going to work, coercion wouldn't have been necessary. And that was the first resort for them, not the last. I wanted to stay alive, but it's the same story and eventually I'm going to have my hand forced. People can't accept that I don't want to come back because my feelings on the matter were never considered, only how much it would cost to make me change my mind or force me to with appropriate compensation. People who think like that I just can't bring myself to care if they lose or die, and that goes for those who depend on them to stay alive, because eventually they too have to sacrifice their conscience. Which means I now have my answer as to why I was abused. And it had nothing to do with God. Anyway, if you were planning on saying something, let it be interesting. Just know it almost certainly isn't going to convince me either way.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!


I am not being fake, coercive or inauthentic in my conversation with you. I understand why you would write that though. We don't trust anyone after going through this and coming to know sort of what it may be about. I don't trust anyone either, no one. I have become a hardened, distrusting husk of what was once a vibrant, dancing, artistic, altruistic humanitarian who wanted to save endangered animals and express myself in creative ways. The shine is gone. I understand why you would warn me but my conversation is authentic, which is my own stupid vulnerability still and obvious weakness that I must eliminate somehow to survive? Damn, what is the purpose of this?
 Quoting: MagentaMage


I'm not interested in surviving. If the weak had a case, they lost it by allying with the mob. They didn't want violence to stop, they wanted revenge, and they were also willing to use it against anyone who hesitated. That's an indictment of the weak if I've ever heard one. I likewise no longer care about the purpose of it. Harm has been done that can't be fixed. Of course, there is some prepackaged solution to make the pain go away, which was the course that all this was meant to steer me toward. But I'm not biting. They don't understand why I left because they have no respect for human agency or boundaries despite all this talk about free will. So let them depend on their leaders and the cruelty of their leaders and lose whatever that entails. My dream got taken from me several times. Why should I care about the plans of those who never missed a meal when they surround themselves with widows and orphans? They've cut deals with war criminals. They don't care about the poor.
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it is easier to just not care, I am getting better at that, and it has been a problem my whole life, beating the odds and caring even for an abuser. I am caring less and less but still do appreciate an honest connection. I don't think I could like myself if I didn't care about the things that were important to me. I have already seen the change and it isn't sitting well.
 Quoting: MagentaMage


I really wish you wouldn't pretend to be my friend, even virtually. Warming to you only leads back to the people who are the beneficiaries of this and let's be honest: if it was going to work, coercion wouldn't have been necessary. And that was the first resort for them, not the last. I wanted to stay alive, but it's the same story and eventually I'm going to have my hand forced. People can't accept that I don't want to come back because my feelings on the matter were never considered, only how much it would cost to make me change my mind or force me to with appropriate compensation. People who think like that I just can't bring myself to care if they lose or die, and that goes for those who depend on them to stay alive, because eventually they too have to sacrifice their conscience. Which means I now have my answer as to why I was abused. And it had nothing to do with God. Anyway, if you were planning on saying something, let it be interesting. Just know it almost certainly isn't going to convince me either way.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!


I am not being fake, coercive or inauthentic in my conversation with you. I understand why you would write that though. We don't trust anyone after going through this and coming to know sort of what it may be about. I don't trust anyone either, no one. I have become a hardened, distrusting husk of what was once a vibrant, dancing, artistic, altruistic humanitarian who wanted to save endangered animals and express myself in creative ways. The shine is gone. I understand why you would warn me but my conversation is authentic, which is my own stupid vulnerability still and obvious weakness that I must eliminate somehow to survive? Damn, what is the purpose of this?
 Quoting: MagentaMage


I'm not interested in surviving. If the weak had a case, they lost it by allying with the mob. They didn't want violence to stop, they wanted revenge, and they were also willing to use it against anyone who hesitated. That's an indictment of the weak if I've ever heard one. I likewise no longer care about the purpose of it. Harm has been done that can't be fixed. Of course, there is some prepackaged solution to make the pain go away, which was the course that all this was meant to steer me toward. But I'm not biting. They don't understand why I left because they have no respect for human agency or boundaries despite all this talk about free will. So let them depend on their leaders and the cruelty of their leaders and lose whatever that entails. My dream got taken from me several times. Why should I care about the plans of those who never missed a meal when they surround themselves with widows and orphans? They've cut deals with war criminals. They don't care about the poor.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!

I am hyper responsible so I have to deal with several things that I have care of to make sure they are taken care of. Survival has been my story so i use it like people use their vacations, which I know little about truly. I do know survival and what I have typed prior is my stance. I am tired and distrusting. I trust nature more than any human.
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I really wish you wouldn't pretend to be my friend, even virtually. Warming to you only leads back to the people who are the beneficiaries of this and let's be honest: if it was going to work, coercion wouldn't have been necessary. And that was the first resort for them, not the last. I wanted to stay alive, but it's the same story and eventually I'm going to have my hand forced. People can't accept that I don't want to come back because my feelings on the matter were never considered, only how much it would cost to make me change my mind or force me to with appropriate compensation. People who think like that I just can't bring myself to care if they lose or die, and that goes for those who depend on them to stay alive, because eventually they too have to sacrifice their conscience. Which means I now have my answer as to why I was abused. And it had nothing to do with God. Anyway, if you were planning on saying something, let it be interesting. Just know it almost certainly isn't going to convince me either way.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!


I am not being fake, coercive or inauthentic in my conversation with you. I understand why you would write that though. We don't trust anyone after going through this and coming to know sort of what it may be about. I don't trust anyone either, no one. I have become a hardened, distrusting husk of what was once a vibrant, dancing, artistic, altruistic humanitarian who wanted to save endangered animals and express myself in creative ways. The shine is gone. I understand why you would warn me but my conversation is authentic, which is my own stupid vulnerability still and obvious weakness that I must eliminate somehow to survive? Damn, what is the purpose of this?
 Quoting: MagentaMage


I'm not interested in surviving. If the weak had a case, they lost it by allying with the mob. They didn't want violence to stop, they wanted revenge, and they were also willing to use it against anyone who hesitated. That's an indictment of the weak if I've ever heard one. I likewise no longer care about the purpose of it. Harm has been done that can't be fixed. Of course, there is some prepackaged solution to make the pain go away, which was the course that all this was meant to steer me toward. But I'm not biting. They don't understand why I left because they have no respect for human agency or boundaries despite all this talk about free will. So let them depend on their leaders and the cruelty of their leaders and lose whatever that entails. My dream got taken from me several times. Why should I care about the plans of those who never missed a meal when they surround themselves with widows and orphans? They've cut deals with war criminals. They don't care about the poor.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!

I am hyper responsible so I have to deal with several things that I have care of to make sure they are taken care of. Survival has been my story so i use it like people use their vacations, which I know little about truly. I do know survival and what I have typed prior is my stance. I am tired and distrusting. I trust nature more than any human.
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The way my community deals with social problems is they shackle the children of bad parents to them so they both use the child from the time they can walk on to support themselves while keeping people from these bad families from socially advancing. They use shame, guilt, and fear to do it. Everyone knows this, does nothing, then pretends that they are secretly socially responsible. It's not my problem and I did my time already.
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I am not being fake, coercive or inauthentic in my conversation with you. I understand why you would write that though. We don't trust anyone after going through this and coming to know sort of what it may be about. I don't trust anyone either, no one. I have become a hardened, distrusting husk of what was once a vibrant, dancing, artistic, altruistic humanitarian who wanted to save endangered animals and express myself in creative ways. The shine is gone. I understand why you would warn me but my conversation is authentic, which is my own stupid vulnerability still and obvious weakness that I must eliminate somehow to survive? Damn, what is the purpose of this?
 Quoting: MagentaMage


I'm not interested in surviving. If the weak had a case, they lost it by allying with the mob. They didn't want violence to stop, they wanted revenge, and they were also willing to use it against anyone who hesitated. That's an indictment of the weak if I've ever heard one. I likewise no longer care about the purpose of it. Harm has been done that can't be fixed. Of course, there is some prepackaged solution to make the pain go away, which was the course that all this was meant to steer me toward. But I'm not biting. They don't understand why I left because they have no respect for human agency or boundaries despite all this talk about free will. So let them depend on their leaders and the cruelty of their leaders and lose whatever that entails. My dream got taken from me several times. Why should I care about the plans of those who never missed a meal when they surround themselves with widows and orphans? They've cut deals with war criminals. They don't care about the poor.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!

I am hyper responsible so I have to deal with several things that I have care of to make sure they are taken care of. Survival has been my story so i use it like people use their vacations, which I know little about truly. I do know survival and what I have typed prior is my stance. I am tired and distrusting. I trust nature more than any human.
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The way my community deals with social problems is they shackle the children of bad parents to them so they both use the child from the time they can walk on to support themselves while keeping people from these bad families from socially advancing. They use shame, guilt, and fear to do it. Everyone knows this, does nothing, then pretends that they are secretly socially responsible. It's not my problem and I did my time already.
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that hits me with a sync from a work perspective. I am in complete agreement and don't want any part in furthering the agenda of a lazy person who performs inadequately in a social service capacity. Those agencies are rife with nepotism and unqualified people. The less I contribute towards that dysfunction the better. A true real=time dilemma for me with what I do for work no doubt. My ripple, even indirectly, was felt and now I am a target of some vengeful gang type people just protecting their game. ugh. very strange.

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I'm not interested in surviving. If the weak had a case, they lost it by allying with the mob. They didn't want violence to stop, they wanted revenge, and they were also willing to use it against anyone who hesitated. That's an indictment of the weak if I've ever heard one. I likewise no longer care about the purpose of it. Harm has been done that can't be fixed. Of course, there is some prepackaged solution to make the pain go away, which was the course that all this was meant to steer me toward. But I'm not biting. They don't understand why I left because they have no respect for human agency or boundaries despite all this talk about free will. So let them depend on their leaders and the cruelty of their leaders and lose whatever that entails. My dream got taken from me several times. Why should I care about the plans of those who never missed a meal when they surround themselves with widows and orphans? They've cut deals with war criminals. They don't care about the poor.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!

I am hyper responsible so I have to deal with several things that I have care of to make sure they are taken care of. Survival has been my story so i use it like people use their vacations, which I know little about truly. I do know survival and what I have typed prior is my stance. I am tired and distrusting. I trust nature more than any human.
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The way my community deals with social problems is they shackle the children of bad parents to them so they both use the child from the time they can walk on to support themselves while keeping people from these bad families from socially advancing. They use shame, guilt, and fear to do it. Everyone knows this, does nothing, then pretends that they are secretly socially responsible. It's not my problem and I did my time already.
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that hits me with a sync from a work perspective. I am in complete agreement and don't want any part in furthering the agenda of a lazy person who performs inadequately in a social service capacity. Those agencies are rife with nepotism and unqualified people. The less I contribute towards that dysfunction the better. A true real=time dilemma for me with what I do for work no doubt. My ripple, even indirectly, was felt and now I am a target of some vengeful gang type people just protecting their game. ugh. very strange.
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That's odd. You struck me as the 'reasonable' face of those in the group who know they never have to be reasonable, and therefore don't have the ability to since they've never been forced to. Diplomacy won't work with anyone who has ever had to deal with them, unfortunately. And it usually makes the target hate the diplomat, too.
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I am hyper responsible so I have to deal with several things that I have care of to make sure they are taken care of. Survival has been my story so i use it like people use their vacations, which I know little about truly. I do know survival and what I have typed prior is my stance. I am tired and distrusting. I trust nature more than any human.
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The way my community deals with social problems is they shackle the children of bad parents to them so they both use the child from the time they can walk on to support themselves while keeping people from these bad families from socially advancing. They use shame, guilt, and fear to do it. Everyone knows this, does nothing, then pretends that they are secretly socially responsible. It's not my problem and I did my time already.
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that hits me with a sync from a work perspective. I am in complete agreement and don't want any part in furthering the agenda of a lazy person who performs inadequately in a social service capacity. Those agencies are rife with nepotism and unqualified people. The less I contribute towards that dysfunction the better. A true real=time dilemma for me with what I do for work no doubt. My ripple, even indirectly, was felt and now I am a target of some vengeful gang type people just protecting their game. ugh. very strange.
 Quoting: MagentaMage


That's odd. You struck me as the 'reasonable' face of those in the group who know they never have to be reasonable, and therefore don't have the ability to since they've never been forced to. Diplomacy won't work with anyone who has ever had to deal with them, unfortunately. And it usually makes the target hate the diplomat, too.
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I am not one of them, nor with them. That is really all I can say about that. I won't get fooled again about things as best I can. Being hyper vigilant wears you out though. And as I previously stated, I am tired. One thing I do know is I have the ability to become completely unpredictable and that does put a bit of a smile on my face, though bittersweet, shadowed by a certain sadness as well.
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The way my community deals with social problems is they shackle the children of bad parents to them so they both use the child from the time they can walk on to support themselves while keeping people from these bad families from socially advancing. They use shame, guilt, and fear to do it. Everyone knows this, does nothing, then pretends that they are secretly socially responsible. It's not my problem and I did my time already.
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that hits me with a sync from a work perspective. I am in complete agreement and don't want any part in furthering the agenda of a lazy person who performs inadequately in a social service capacity. Those agencies are rife with nepotism and unqualified people. The less I contribute towards that dysfunction the better. A true real=time dilemma for me with what I do for work no doubt. My ripple, even indirectly, was felt and now I am a target of some vengeful gang type people just protecting their game. ugh. very strange.
 Quoting: MagentaMage


That's odd. You struck me as the 'reasonable' face of those in the group who know they never have to be reasonable, and therefore don't have the ability to since they've never been forced to. Diplomacy won't work with anyone who has ever had to deal with them, unfortunately. And it usually makes the target hate the diplomat, too.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!


I am not one of them, nor with them. That is really all I can say about that. I won't get fooled again about things as best I can. Being hyper vigilant wears you out though. And as I previously stated, I am tired. One thing I do know is I have the ability to become completely unpredictable and that does put a bit of a smile on my face, though bittersweet, shadowed by a certain sadness as well. Also, not much has been stated prior, but the consent was absent, and a derived passive consent isn't the same without transparency. Free will isn't in place when something is forced upon you without the good faith of an agreement. What is ultimately cultivated is resentment, regardless of whether something benefits you or does not. That is entirely subjective.
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You are a potential use, and that justifies any and every abuse. The rest is whatever gets their rocks off, because it is only a certain sadist who is willing to do that to other people.
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If I am of some use then what are they waiting for? It’s been really long!
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There is a difference between a use and a person. Psychological stress destroys the person, leaving the use pristine. You're dealing with Nazis and people who eagerly learned from them.
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hf
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I think it is more of a class/status thing over any other ideology or culture. Obviously high tech is involved. Only someone with clout and a following would be able to have access to that, not a TI. I think it is used for a multitude of reasons but mostly an ego pablum and form of entertainment. Sure you are given hints it is being done "for your own good" to improve you, that is a carrot. But it doesn't cease. Somehow your wildest dreams are tapped into and used to keep you hooked into the whole scenario once you discover it and ignore the fools saying you need meds or similarly. The fools here are the ones who deny a possibility or validation that this exists.

I mean seriously, since when did any technology only serve the common good for altruistic purposes?

I feel it also taps into a "better than you" attitude. The people behind this terror feel superior for whatever reasons and claim the masses as fodder, a commodity, something to use for their benefit.

The tech brought it to a whole new level. A level that will never be undone unless we lose all ability to be able to use tech.

Don't ever believe for a second you are cared for by the users of this genre. Just another disposable inspiration, entertainment, satisfier of curiosity seeking? I think the psychological aspect that is created is especially despicable. Total plausible deniability so you appear crazy to even your loved ones. What is life worth after that ?
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How do I get rid of these parasites? Do I have to go postal?
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Do I have to do some satanic ritual to get these weasels to stop fucking following me around? Wtf did I ever do to make them hate me so much?
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How do I get rid of these parasites? Do I have to go postal?
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Probably.
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there's a bitnin here about v2skull tech being used....the whole docu is worth a watch though...

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there's a bit in here about v2skull tech being used....the whole docu is worth a watch though...



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there's a bitnin here about v2skull tech being used....the whole docu is worth a watch though...

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To anybody reading this thread I would definitely not watch this video.
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Fuck these people. I don’t owe them any thing and they don’t owe me anything. Why are they so interested in me?!?!?? WTF why are they so secretive about their motives? Why do they get so confused when i shoe that I don’t want them following me around?
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Seriously frustrating huh?
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bump
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I think the only thing we as tis can do is buy a gun and start blasting these scum pieces of shit. Any other ideas? Its been over 20 years for me and I still haven’t had any privacy ti myself from these weasels.
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I don’t give a shit what the reason is I’m so ticking sick of these fuckers hearing my thoughts and knowing what I dream at night I’m gonna fucking do some fucking horrible shit that I guarantee I’ll end up on the news. If you are a new ti I gotta tell you from experience that these people will never stop and there is literally nothing you can do. I’m glad I didn’t notice them till my early 20’s. At least I had a few decent years. I was kinda holding out on some small hole that there would be something positive from gangstalking but literally nothing. Fuck all you. I swear to god I’m gonna end/ruin a lot of peoples lives because why not? Fuck you you fat fucking cunts.
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I don’t give a shit what the reason is I’m so ticking sick of these fuckers hearing my thoughts and knowing what I dream at night I’m gonna fucking do some fucking horrible shit that I guarantee I’ll end up on the news. If you are a new ti I gotta tell you from experience that these people will never stop and there is literally nothing you can do. I’m glad I didn’t notice them till my early 20’s. At least I had a few decent years. I was kinda holding out on some small hole that there would be something positive from gangstalking but literally nothing. Fuck all you. I swear to god I’m gonna end/ruin a lot of peoples lives because why not? Fuck you you fat fucking cunts.
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They seem to have a problem with anti Trans rhetoric. I won't go into "minecraft" what to do with that but you can use your imagination
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or, perhaps I mentioned something that piqued you and caused you distress. I am an empath so it isn't something I am trying to deceive you with. I am just relating because you and I seem to have a good discourse.
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Faking empath is one of their more subtle routines. Before they lift the veil that is. I used to think I was an empath. Now I know it was all part of their fakery. They start by giving you what you think is positive results (probably while manipulating the others you're interacting with as well) so you trust it then feed you false positives. Once you catch on they drop that act and just pump in just about everything under the sun. Pretty much gotta go back to biblical times when everything non physical is considered evil.
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It also fails to cause the victim to empathize with the politics of the torturers after the fact. Nice try, though. Other people have hurt me to make a point before. The message that got across was that they are vicious.
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yes I have been back and forth with the not gonna ever empathize and then I get pulled back in. It doesn't help that they have mined my heart and used who I love to the core as the carrot trying to make me believe there is some sort of reconciliation and happy ending. I know painfully, foolishly differently now. Ya know. it is really sad because I could have made a difference in the world and provided talents and gifts. Not anymore, I just want to disappear because I know that is the only way it will go away. My hopes and dreams have been used against me and I overcame tremendous odds and did what I thought I should do for "them" over and over, it never stops. The hard part is knowing the hypocrisy involved in the expectations put upon me. That is how I came to realize that has to be for inspiration and entertainment purposes, a pasttime of a rich and powerful person, like a personal jester or private dancer, sigh.... To them, my struggle and strife was more important than me finding joy yet I was supposed to show and express joy like a good little controlled puppet. There is no joy, less to believe in anymore and definitely no hope.
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I expected as much from the beginning, frankly. I should have killed myself at sixteen when it happened the second time. It isn't just the rich, though: it is pretty deeply engrained in the psyche throughout the ethnicity. Just the reasoning changes. It's why the text insists on forgiveness much more strongly than it tells people not to do something that would require forgiveness later. The person it favors is the guy who says "better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission." In the end, it's just easier not to care for anyone, anywhere at all. Sorry to say.
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it is easier to just not care, I am getting better at that, and it has been a problem my whole life, beating the odds and caring even for an abuser. I am caring less and less but still do appreciate an honest connection. I don't think I could like myself if I didn't care about the things that were important to me. I have already seen the change and it isn't sitting well.
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They also seem to be mad about my use of spite as a motivator. And get passed off when I say fuk it to just about anything.
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They also claim responsibility of the death of a 33rd bloodline friend recently. Not sure that means
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It's true they made mtiple offers with me over a period of years. I guess the profiling somehow missed how much of a stubborn fucker I really am
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Have they stolen our identity? Money? Why do they target us from such a young age? Have we wronged them somehow in some cultish way that we are not aware of?
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Gangstalking does exist but it is not the Govt in general but a Narcissistic family member/"friend"/ or simply some nut who targets you. And the pack of losers they manipulate to do their dirty work.. hacking, stalking, phone calls etc etc so you know your " Under their microscope and have no privacy or peace" ie a mental control freak who hangs out with low grade no integrity creeps willing to rush up to the bullying plate.
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How do I get rid of these parasites? Do I have to go postal?
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I know exactly how you're feeling lmao





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