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All this talk about Jesus and NOT the Father God Creator

 
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All this talk about Jesus and NOT the Father God Creator
Jesus said that people called him good, and He said, I am NOT good, ONLY God is good

Jesus said that many will come to Him in the last days and proclaim all they have done in His name and He will cast them out. We are to do the Father's Will.

Jesus said that He was NOT here to change any of the Laws, the Laws of Moses stand until the end of time.

Jesus taught us to Pray to the Father God, NOT Jesus Himself.
"Our Father who art in Heaven, Hallowed be thy name...."
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So what was the sin of the Pharisees and Sadducee’s then, op?

Surely they would agree with everything you say…
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So what was the sin of the Pharisees and Sadducee’s then, op?

Surely they would agree with everything you say…
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I believe their sin was hypocrisy

Mathew 23 really says a lot. It is like "Wow"
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we all have hypocrisy….

And no one can keep the law..

Else there is no need for a savior..

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They could not accept who is claimed to be…

For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father.
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“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.” -- Marcus Aurelius
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“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.” -- Marcus Aurelius
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Yes, I have heard this quote before and love it
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Jesus said that people called him good, and He said, I am NOT good, ONLY God is good

Jesus said that many will come to Him in the last days and proclaim all they have done in His name and He will cast them out. We are to do the Father's Will.

Jesus said that He was NOT here to change any of the Laws, the Laws of Moses stand until the end of time.

Jesus taught us to Pray to the Father God, NOT Jesus Himself.
"Our Father who art in Heaven, Hallowed be thy name...."
 Quoting: Z_Spirit

Although this is correct, we are to pray to the Father, the Father did not create everything, Jesus did (read John, Ch 1)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

the One God of the Old Testament was Jesus before incarnation as a human.
John 1: 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
So Adam and Eve, Moses Abraham, Etc., all with were dealing with Jesus, not the Father.
Now we see the depth of the Error, that the Hebrews committed in Crucifying Jesus.
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Jesus said that people called him good, and He said, I am NOT good, ONLY God is good

Jesus said that many will come to Him in the last days and proclaim all they have done in His name and He will cast them out. We are to do the Father's Will.

Jesus said that He was NOT here to change any of the Laws, the Laws of Moses stand until the end of time.

Jesus taught us to Pray to the Father God, NOT Jesus Himself.
"Our Father who art in Heaven, Hallowed be thy name...."
 Quoting: Z_Spirit


Jesus is Jehovah. Unfortunately, Christians aren't really allowed to post on GLP as we are allowed to write God's name, but get banned for it.

So Christians get banned here. Have to be careful on this thread to NOT GET BANNED!
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we all have hypocrisy….

And no one can keep the law..

Else there is no need for a savior..

.

They could not accept who is claimed to be…

For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Yes, we should Honor Jesus which is why we Pray to the Father God and say at the end in Jesus' Name

If you look at Deuteronomy 32, the Song of Moses, God talks about the Last Days and also says that the Father Himself is the Savior
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we all have hypocrisy….

And no one can keep the law..

Else there is no need for a savior..

.

They could not accept who is claimed to be…

For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Yes, we should Honor Jesus which is why we Pray to the Father God and say at the end in Jesus' Name

If you look at Deuteronomy 32, the Song of Moses, God talks about the Last Days and also says that the Father Himself is the Savior
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Jesus is the Savior. Jesus is Jehovah/God. He's also the Judge of righteousness/forgiveness to who everyone kneels.

So, no. The savior is Jesus. Sorry.
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Sure baby just unglue with your families that work so that you can also l:
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Re: All this talk about Jesus and NOT the Father God Creator
we all have hypocrisy….

And no one can keep the law..

Else there is no need for a savior..

.

They could not accept who is claimed to be…

For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Yes, we should Honor Jesus which is why we Pray to the Father God and say at the end in Jesus' Name

If you look at Deuteronomy 32, the Song of Moses, God talks about the Last Days and also says that the Father Himself is the Savior
 Quoting: Z_Spirit


Jesus is the Savior. Jesus is Jehovah/God. He's also the Judge of righteousness/forgiveness to who everyone kneels.

So, no. The savior is Jesus. Sorry.
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NO Jesus is the Son of God NOT the Father Himself.

Why would Jesus constantly pray to the Father God and talk of the Father God if it was God the Father Himself.

It makes NO sense what you are saying. Jesus was NOT praying to Himself.
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Re: All this talk about Jesus and NOT the Father God Creator
Jesus taught us to Pray to the Father God, NOT Jesus Himself.
"Our Father who art in Heaven, Hallowed be thy name...."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83836388

Although this is correct, we are to pray to the Father, the Father did not create everything, Jesus did (read John, Ch 1)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

the One God of the Old Testament was Jesus before incarnation as a human.
John 1: 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.


So Adam and Eve, Moses Abraham, Etc., all with were dealing with Jesus, not the Father.
Now we see the depth of the Error, that the Hebrews committed in Crucifying Jesus.

Obviously - you don't ever LOOK through scripture to TEST your doctrines.

Thread: Father God is Worshipped as Creator - Revelation 4:8-11 / Creation Bible Study

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NOR do you understand the Apostles embellishment of Jesus

Thread: Hebrews 12:2 Embellishes Jesus as "Author" - Yet the Plan for Salvation is Father God's - Bible Study
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Jesus is Jehovah/God.
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Jehovah is the Father.

Jesus is the SON OF God.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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we all have hypocrisy….

And no one can keep the law..

Else there is no need for a savior..

.

They could not accept who is claimed to be…

For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Yes, we should Honor Jesus which is why we Pray to the Father God and say at the end in Jesus' Name

If you look at Deuteronomy 32, the Song of Moses, God talks about the Last Days and also says that the Father Himself is the Savior
 Quoting: Z_Spirit


Jesus is the Savior. Jesus is Jehovah/God. He's also the Judge of righteousness/forgiveness to who everyone kneels.

So, no. The savior is Jesus. Sorry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69649919



bumpTruth
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OP A Jehovas witness? That's a cult you know.
This should help you understand who he REALLY is. OP

But about the Son [the Father says to Him], “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE SCEPTER OF [absolute] RIGHTEOUSNESS IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM.
Hebrews 1:8




Isaiah 9:6

For to us a Child shall be born, to us a Son shall be given; And the government shall be upon His shoulder, And His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace
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Only through Jesus. It is written.
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Jesus said that people called him good, and He said, I am NOT good, ONLY God is good

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No, He did not.

Not true.

You miss it.

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Is Jesus Good?

Yes.

Of course He is.

How could you think otherwise?
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Pretty sure Jesus said "There is only one who is good, that is your father in heaven". Pretty sure....
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Find the passage. Study it closely. Learn a lot.
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Thread: Jesus is Good.
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But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me.

Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me?

He who is of God hears God's words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.



John 8:45-47
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Although this is correct, we are to pray to the Father, the Father did not create everything, Jesus did (read John, Ch 1)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

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He was in the world.... and the world was made by him..... and the world knew him not.


The one who is.... and who was.... and who is to come..... that is already HERE.
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Jesus is the only way. The words of Jesus take priority over anything else in the bible.
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that is already HERE.
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WHERE?
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that is already HERE.
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WHERE?
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It doesn't matter you will reject him like everybody and call him The Anti-Christ....so
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that is already HERE.
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WHERE?
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It doesn't matter you will reject him like everybody and call him The Anti-Christ....so
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WHY DO YOU ATTACK AND ACCUSE?

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?
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Before discussion Almighty find out what god was represented by Jesus.
In the List of Spiritual Entities of Great Cosmos are hierarchies of all possible creatures and spirits (pdf file 2 pgs): [link to disk.yandex.ru (secure)]
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Jesus is the only way. The words of Jesus take priority over anything else in the bible.
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Indeed because He is the Spirit Of Love so in all of the world's various religion programs books find the Spirit of Love in any of these cultural idioms and respond to that and dump the rest.

You can find HIM(the Spirit Of Love) in all these books, if you read them with the eyes of the heart.
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So what was the sin of the Pharisees and Sadducee’s then, op?

Surely they would agree with everything you say…
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I believe their sin was hypocrisy

Mathew 23 really says a lot. It is like "Wow"
 Quoting: Z_Spirit


No, you are using a poor quote.
Try John 8:44 or Acts 7:43
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Re: All this talk about Jesus and NOT the Father God Creator
that is already HERE.
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WHERE?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83458239


It doesn't matter you will reject him like everybody and call him The Anti-Christ....so
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84305347


WHY DO YOU ATTACK AND ACCUSE?

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80377294


It's not an Attack AC ..!

I Am Nobody.





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