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How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration

 
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
Depends on the definition of shortage.

The shortage to achieve full pool might only be 20% caused by invaders.

The shortage difference to achieve a normal or acceptable level is 100% due to the millions of invaders.

Still, the managers carry full blame for the current crisis. The current situation was very predictable more than 20 years ago, but they did NOTHING to reduce the outflow. The fix would have been so small as to a non-issue. Now, there is a crisis. No doubt, that was the goal all along.
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Lake Mead could rise tomorrow if they cutoff the golf courses and farmers. That will happen long before Las Vegas goes dry.

Sorry haters.

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Mostly true - over 72% of Arizona water use is ag-based.

No one needs to grow cotton, pecans and lettuce in a desert.
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
Depends on the definition of shortage.

The shortage to achieve full pool might only be 20% caused by invaders.

The shortage difference to achieve a normal or acceptable level is 100% due to the millions of invaders.

Still, the managers carry full blame for the current crisis. The current situation was very predictable more than 20 years ago, but they did NOTHING to reduce the outflow. The fix would have been so small as to a non-issue. Now, there is a crisis. No doubt, that was the goal all along.
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It would appear your conclusion is sadly true, just as we watch our nation being looted by all manner of politicians and their replacement voters.

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Thank you AC80010885 for your contributions and the Bump, cheers
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My pleasure, and thank you for opening this dialog up!

This will become a major issue in the next 6 months.

It is my belief the inflow numbers to Lake Mead are bogus.

Right now the Colorado River arm is not even entering the lake:

[link to earthobservatory.nasa.gov (secure)]

The Overton Bay arm is no longer supplying the Virgin River either.

Just scroll through the timeline on this imagery and be shocked.

wtf
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I agree in 6 months we will be paying very close attention to snow pact
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Well, I've been babysitting this thread for 2 1/2 hours now and need to go take care of some things Be back later, have fun and discuss, I'll catch up when I get back. dasbier
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
so a human drinking water makes it magically vanish?
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No it gets changed to sewage and flushed into rivers and oceans after being treated
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so the real problem is no one is putting water back into the lake?

didn't they think of that when they were taking the water out?

or was it just a case of, we'll leave that part to chance?
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Pretty sure Los Angeles is well out of the Lake Meade watershed.
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
Earth is a large watery planet. There is no shortage of water in the 'system'. And our population could expand 2 even 3 times what it is now.

The problem is DROUGHT -not people or migration.

We just need to figure out the water problem and soon.

Pausing new city development and shutting down golf courses would be a start.

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Lake Mead, a lifeline for water in Los Angeles and the West, ‘unrecognizable’ as it tips toward crisis

Lake Mead, a lifeline for 25 million people and millions of acres of farmland in California, Arizona, Nevada and Mexico, made history when it was engineered 85 years ago, capturing trillions of gallons of river water and ushering in the growth of the modern West.[less than 50%]
nova glass

Let's face some facts in 1980 the population of Las Vegas was 146,000 today it's 662,000 , The population of Las Angelas was 9,300,00 today it's 12,9000,000.

With just these 2 cities that's a rise of 4.1 million more people drinking the water. More farms that need irrigation
illwork


While many are trying to blame climate change, I blame both legal and illegal migration on the water shortage in the Southwest USA. One more sign that resources are finite and should be protected from illegal immigration.

stopill

Politicians that don't understand this should be voted out.

illNancy realvsleft
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I'm not so sure you know what you're talking about OP.

California's farmland is not irrigated from lake Mead. Maybe a bit of it near LA or sand Diego. But 95+ percent of it is irrigated from the Sierra Nevada snow melt.

There's 1400 dams lining the Sierra Nevada collecting the snow melt and an aquaduct system that takes water all over the state.

10% of California water is used for household use. 5% for industrial. And 90% for farmland irrigation. California has invested 10s of Billions giving farmers equipment to prevent wasting water. As such the California uses the least amount of water and grows the most amount of food per acre than anywhere in the world.

As much as I hate that state it isn't the cause of lake Mead drought.
50% of the water in lake Mead gets dumped in the ocean. And it wasn't always that way. Look elsewhere.

And California grows shit for people all over the world. You've eaten something from California today ..assuming you actually eat fruits and vegetables and don't just eat potato chips and soda.
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G E O - E N G E N E R I N G any questions?
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^This

How big is a Lake that was not created by nature supposed to be?
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration

How much of Lake Meads water shortage is IS FLUSHED OUT TO THE OCEAN
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
so a human drinking water makes it magically vanish?
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This.

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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
This is why they want to divert water from the Mississippi River, into the Colorado River.


Makes me wonder if the Mississippi may one day, no longer reach the Gulf of Mexico?

And if that happens, how will it change the Gulf?


Water Wars coming?
 Quoting: Artlicious


There will probably be an "accident" to make the great lakes non-potable or some shit.
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The Midwest needs the rivers and the tributaries for farming. If California wants water, they should get it from the Great Lakes, not from our rivers.
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
so a human drinking water makes it magically vanish?
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No it gets changed to sewage and flushed into rivers and oceans after being treated
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so the real problem is no one is putting water back into the lake?

didn't they think of that when they were taking the water out?

or was it just a case of, we'll leave that part to chance?
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Pretty sure Los Angeles is well out of the Lake Meade watershed.
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Nope
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
Lake Mead, a lifeline for water in Los Angeles and the West, ‘unrecognizable’ as it tips toward crisis

Lake Mead, a lifeline for 25 million people and millions of acres of farmland in California, Arizona, Nevada and Mexico, made history when it was engineered 85 years ago, capturing trillions of gallons of river water and ushering in the growth of the modern West.[less than 50%] [link to www.register-herald.com (secure)]
:nova glass:

Let's face some facts in 1980 the population of Las Vegas was 146,000 today it's 662,000 , The population of Las Angelas was 9,300,00 today it's 12,9000,000.

With just these 2 cities that's a rise of 4.1 million more people drinking the water. More farms that need irrigation
:illwork:


While many are trying to blame climate change, I blame both legal and illegal migration on the water shortage in the Southwest USA. One more sign that resources are finite and should be protected from illegal immigration.

:stopill:

Politicians that don't understand this should be voted out.

:illNancy: :realvsleft:
 Quoting: Storm2come


No...

As many people can live there as they want.

Cause this is Merica and they are lying to us!!!
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
Earth is a large watery planet. There is no shortage of water in the 'system'. And our population could expand 2 even 3 times what it is now.

The problem is DROUGHT -not people or migration.

We just need to figure out the water problem and soon.

Pausing new city development and shutting down golf courses would be a start.
 Quoting: Humanitarianlike


You think that'll do it eh???
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
This is why they want to divert water from the Mississippi River, into the Colorado River.


Makes me wonder if the Mississippi may one day, no longer reach the Gulf of Mexico?

And if that happens, how will it change the Gulf?


Water Wars coming?
 Quoting: Artlicious


There will probably be an "accident" to make the great lakes non-potable or some shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79836650


The Midwest needs the rivers and the tributaries for farming. If California wants water, they should get it from the Great Lakes, not from our rivers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83070426


He'll no you need to be snowbound for that privilege.

Get outta here...
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
so a human drinking water makes it magically vanish?
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No moron,but millions do,are you really this Fucking stupid?
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
so a human drinking water makes it magically vanish?
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Hahaha, what a stupid question for a reply! LOL
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
so a human drinking water makes it magically vanish?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50983817


No, It’s humans using water. You think these people pouring across the border care about leaving the faucet running. They storm across the border and rape our land of its resources, while the country they come from has plenty of resources. It’s not migration, it’s an invasion.
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go back to Europe. There is plenty of water
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water migration?
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Lake Mead, a lifeline for water in Los Angeles and the West, ‘unrecognizable’ as it tips toward crisis

Lake Mead, a lifeline for 25 million people and millions of acres of farmland in California, Arizona, Nevada and Mexico, made history when it was engineered 85 years ago, capturing trillions of gallons of river water and ushering in the growth of the modern West.[less than 50%]
:nova glass:

Let's face some facts in 1980 the population of Las Vegas was 146,000 today it's 662,000 , The population of Las Angelas was 9,300,00 today it's 12,9000,000.

With just these 2 cities that's a rise of 4.1 million more people drinking the water. More farms that need irrigation
:illwork:


While many are trying to blame climate change, I blame both legal and illegal migration on the water shortage in the Southwest USA. One more sign that resources are finite and should be protected from illegal immigration.

:stopill:

Politicians that don't understand this should be voted out.

:illNancy: :realvsleft:
 Quoting: Storm2come




LOSERS
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
G E O - E N G E N E R I N G any questions?
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^This

How big is a Lake that was not created by nature supposed to be?
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It is a failure. ALL attempts to "harness" nature are eventually.
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
There is no way to get around the evaporation that occurs when a lake is made by a dam
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
so a human drinking water makes it magically vanish?
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No moron,but millions do,are you really this Fucking stupid?
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Water doesnt change by humans drinking it.
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No it gets changed to sewage and flushed into rivers and oceans after being treated
 Quoting: Storm2come


so the real problem is no one is putting water back into the lake?

didn't they think of that when they were taking the water out?

or was it just a case of, we'll leave that part to chance?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50983817


Pretty sure Los Angeles is well out of the Lake Meade watershed.
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Nope
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 Quoting: Storm2come


When the AC says watershed, he or she means the source, which is actually the Colorado river basin watershed - upper and lower.

LA is one of the recipients of the watershed and reservoir.
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so a human drinking water makes it magically vanish?
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No moron,but millions do,are you really this Fucking stupid?
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Water doesnt change by humans drinking it.
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So if I drink water and then piss in a cup would you drink it? You've been trying to derail this thread with comments about white people, saying go back to Europe, and calling US losers.

So where do you think the world would be without Whites? and if you think it would be better, then why are white countries the ones being invaded by brown skinned people.

Take your stupid ass elsewhere. gtfo5
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so the real problem is no one is putting water back into the lake?

didn't they think of that when they were taking the water out?

or was it just a case of, we'll leave that part to chance?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50983817


Pretty sure Los Angeles is well out of the Lake Meade watershed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27493786


Nope
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 Quoting: Storm2come


When the AC says watershed, he or she means the source, which is actually the Colorado river basin watershed - upper and lower.

LA is one of the recipients of the watershed and reservoir.
 Quoting: Humanitarianlike

Water shed maybe, but LA also gets water from lake Mead or so the article states.
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G E O - E N G E N E R I N G any questions?
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^This

How big is a Lake that was not created by nature supposed to be?
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It is a failure. ALL attempts to "harness" nature are eventually.
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That would include trying to engineer nature.

Big fail - besides who has the time to micro-manage Earth's weather patterns ??

LOL

Historic droughts in the west - into Texas, OK, Kansas now and serious flooding elsewhere.. St Louie today.
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It's more a case of a weakening magnetosphere and wonky jet streams.

Everyone best have a plan because 'this' isn't changing anytime soon.
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Pretty sure Los Angeles is well out of the Lake Meade watershed.
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Nope
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 Quoting: Storm2come


When the AC says watershed, he or she means the source, which is actually the Colorado river basin watershed - upper and lower.

LA is one of the recipients of the watershed and reservoir.
 Quoting: Humanitarianlike

Water shed maybe, but LA also gets water from lake Mead or so the article states.
 Quoting: Storm2come


definitely
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Re: How much of Lake Meads water shortage is due to Migration
Lake Mead, a lifeline for water in Los Angeles and the West, ‘unrecognizable’ as it tips toward crisis

Lake Mead, a lifeline for 25 million people and millions of acres of farmland in California, Arizona, Nevada and Mexico, made history when it was engineered 85 years ago, capturing trillions of gallons of river water and ushering in the growth of the modern West.[less than 50%] [link to www.register-herald.com (secure)]
:nova glass:

Let's face some facts in 1980 the population of Las Vegas was 146,000 today it's 662,000 , The population of Las Angelas was 9,300,00 today it's 12,9000,000.

With just these 2 cities that's a rise of 4.1 million more people drinking the water. More farms that need irrigation
:illwork:


While many are trying to blame climate change, I blame both legal and illegal migration on the water shortage in the Southwest USA. One more sign that resources are finite and should be protected from illegal immigration.

:stopill:

Politicians that don't understand this should be voted out.

:illNancy: :realvsleft:
 Quoting: Storm2come


Watch the great lakes episode of conspiracy theory with Jesse ventura

We are sending water to china.





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