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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83920308 United States 07/26/2022 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, It’s humans using water. You think these people pouring across the border care about leaving the faucet running. They storm across the border and rape our land of its resources, while the country they come from has plenty of resources. It’s not migration, it’s an invasion. go back to Europe. There is plenty of water I didn't come from Europe MORON! Where are you from, Indianapolis? |
Storm2come (OP) Natural Law always wins in the end User ID: 80494276 United States 07/26/2022 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Illegal immigration represents less than 0.01 percent of the water wasted from the Colorado River, would be my educated opinion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83920308 I was referring to both, ie, population growth beyond the intended use. Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116 Thread: Om frequencies, which one works for you?? If someone produces wealth and money, you have no right to tell them how to spend it.- Ayn Rand |
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Storm2come (OP) Natural Law always wins in the end User ID: 80494276 United States 07/26/2022 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Illegal immigration represents less than 0.01 percent of the water wasted from the Colorado River, would be my educated opinion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83920308 I was referring to both, ie, population growth beyond the intended use. Whose intent? The builders of the Hoover Dam, the government and the people that wanted to give the west electricity Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116 Thread: Om frequencies, which one works for you?? If someone produces wealth and money, you have no right to tell them how to spend it.- Ayn Rand |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83920308 United States 07/26/2022 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Illegal immigration represents less than 0.01 percent of the water wasted from the Colorado River, would be my educated opinion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83920308 I was referring to both, ie, population growth beyond the intended use. Whose intent? The builders of the Hoover Dam, the government and the people that wanted to give the west electricity They never foresaw an increase in population? HORSE SHIT |
Storm2come (OP) Natural Law always wins in the end User ID: 80494276 United States 07/26/2022 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The builders of the Hoover Dam, the government and the people that wanted to give the west electricity They never foresaw an increase in population? HORSE SHIT You seem to not understand that they based their predictions on surveys of rainfall of the 1920's. Nobody could have predicted the massive migrations after WW2 and NAFTA Don't get me wrong I love that you're bumping my thread, it's just tedious arguing with stupid people Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116 Thread: Om frequencies, which one works for you?? If someone produces wealth and money, you have no right to tell them how to spend it.- Ayn Rand |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915544 United States 07/26/2022 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Earth is a large watery planet. There is no shortage of water in the 'system'. And our population could expand 2 even 3 times what it is now. Quoting: Humanitarianlike The problem is DROUGHT -not people or migration. We just need to figure out the water problem and soon. Pausing new city development and shutting down golf courses would be a start. No need to pause new cities(presuming there are many - only one I know of is the new Cairo in Egypt) but plenty of cities have water conservation offices. Golf courses, profligate as they may be, only use a small % of water compared to agriculture. [link to www.12news.com (secure)] Even if the decision was made to close golf courses and rip up the grass they used, the water "saved" still wouldn't make a dent in the amount of water needed to replenish the Colorado River. Arizona's golf industry uses around 21,000 acre-feet of water from the Colorado River, according to data from the Kyl Center for Water Policy. That is around 1.3% of the amount of water Arizona is allowed to use from the Colorado River. The worst non-natural offender most of us have in front of our homes is that useless green patch of non-consumable trash grass - an ornamental offense to anyone with a logical mind. Yet far upstream at the source of the Colorado local officials have done next to nothing to incentivize Xeric landscaping for decades despite the fact that it is a literal "product" birthed by the Denver water Department. [link to lifescapecolorado.com (secure)] Did you know that the term “xeriscape” was actually created by Denver Water back in 1981? It refers to a drought-resistant landscape achieved by following a series of basic principles. These guiding principles include planning and designing, conscientious irrigation, and selection of native plants that can survive dry spells without being overly demanding on water resources. [link to kdvr.com (secure)] Gov. Jared Polis has signed Colorado’s turf replacement bill. Residents who voluntarily replace the turf with drought-conscious landscaping will receive financial help from the state’s $2 million program. Denver Water told FOX31 that replacing turf that isn’t native to Colorado, like Kentucky bluegrass, can cut water use by 50%. Now it's time for the other cities in the metro area to STEP UP to Xeric! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915544 United States 07/26/2022 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much of Lake Meads water shortage is IS FLUSHED OUT TO THE OCEAN Damned little if any - read the thread - there has been no Colorado River flow into Mexico since the 1980s - only 2014 stands as an example of experimental flow and wetland improvement. Do you have any clue where treated effluent in Arizona goes? [link to scholar.law.colorado.edu (secure)] Recognizing that groundwater mining could not go unabated, in 1980 Arizona enacted a revoluntary groundwater management code designed to reduce Arizona's reliance on groundwater. In order to meet the goals of the Code, Arizona must use all of its water resources - including effluent - wisely. The Arizona Department of Water Resources currently estimates that by 2025 between 600,000 and 700,000 acre feet of effluent will be generated annually in the State's most heavily populated areas. Ideally, this effluent should be used in place of groundwater. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915544 United States 07/26/2022 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^This How big is a Lake that was not created by nature supposed to be? It is a failure. ALL attempts to "harness" nature are eventually. Nope. The irrigation canals of the ancient Ho Ho Kam literally formed the basis for Phoenix's present canal system. Try again. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915544 United States 07/26/2022 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^This How big is a Lake that was not created by nature supposed to be? It is a failure. ALL attempts to "harness" nature are eventually. That would include trying to engineer nature. Big fail - besides who has the time to micro-manage Earth's weather patterns ?? LOL Historic droughts in the west - into Texas, OK, Kansas now and serious flooding elsewhere.. St Louie today. [link to www.baltimoresun.com (secure)] It's more a case of a weakening magnetosphere and wonky jet streams. Everyone best have a plan because 'this' isn't changing anytime soon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915544 United States 07/26/2022 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lake Mead could rise tomorrow if they cutoff the golf courses and farmers. That will happen long before Las Vegas goes dry. Quoting: VegasRick Sorry haters. Mostly true - over 72% of Arizona water use is ag-based. No one needs to grow cotton, pecans and lettuce in a desert. False... golf courses have to use reclaimed water. Sorry bucko - water use is water use, even recycled or reclaimed water, it all comes from the same initial resource. Stick to facts please: [link to www.arizonawaterfacts.com (secure)] [link to www.azcentral.com (secure)] Usage: In 2017, almost 74 percent of the state’s water went to agriculture and irrigation, 20 percent to municipalities, and less than 1 percent went to industry — a slight change from when even more went to agriculture in the 1950’s. Supply: Groundwater 40.30% Surface Water 20.68% Colorado River Water 35.81 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915544 United States 07/26/2022 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lake Mead could rise tomorrow if they cutoff the golf courses and farmers. That will happen long before Las Vegas goes dry. Quoting: VegasRick Sorry haters. Mostly true - over 72% of Arizona water use is ag-based. No one needs to grow cotton, pecans and lettuce in a desert. False... golf courses have to use reclaimed water. Non sequitur. My numbers stand as cited: [link to www.azcentral.com (secure)] In 1955, groundwater made up 69 percent of the state's overall portfolio, with surface water filling in the rest. As of 2017, Arizona gets about 40 percent of its supplies from groundwater, nearly 36 percent from the Colorado River, 20 percent from other surface water, and three percent from reclaimed water. In 2017, almost 74 percent of the state’s water went to agriculture and irrigation, 20 percent to municipalities, and less than 1 percent went to industry — a slight change from when even more went to agriculture in the 1950’s. But some of those numbers provided by ADWR are estimates, and it’s hard to know precisely how much water is used in parts of the state where groundwater isn't regulated as it is in AMAs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915544 United States 07/26/2022 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lake mead has been going dry for years. I watched a woman who was some muckity muck bigwig for water conservation for it and she was being interviewed and didn't even try to hide the fact that it was going dry and there were no solutions. There are very few people on GLP such as myself trying to make people understand that what you are seeing is the last book of the bible. you don't believe that, or even that God is. drought is not the only serious problem you are up against. There is an answer to all of it but it requires you give yourself to Jesus and he will keep you. it takes only a moment and costs you nothing to give one sincere prayer. You don't see fireworks go off when you do so you disregard your only hope. He made it as easy as he can to save you from all this, yet you can't bring yourself to jump into the only answer there is gonna be for you. You're out of time now. Good luck. Quoting: Midnight Oil |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83277861 United States 07/26/2022 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much of Lake Meads water shortage is IS FLUSHED OUT TO THE OCEAN Damned little if any - read the thread - there has been no Colorado River flow into Mexico since the 1980s - only 2014 stands as an example of experimental flow and wetland improvement. Do you have any clue where treated effluent in Arizona goes? [link to scholar.law.colorado.edu (secure)] Recognizing that groundwater mining could not go unabated, in 1980 Arizona enacted a revoluntary groundwater management code designed to reduce Arizona's reliance on groundwater. In order to meet the goals of the Code, Arizona must use all of its water resources - including effluent - wisely. The Arizona Department of Water Resources currently estimates that by 2025 between 600,000 and 700,000 acre feet of effluent will be generated annually in the State's most heavily populated areas. Ideally, this effluent should be used in place of groundwater. Lake Mead Total inflows for water year 2022: 6,109,426 acre feet Total releases for water year 2022: 7,650,133 acre feet |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915544 United States 07/26/2022 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Storm2come I don't think that when they built it 85 years ago that they had any idea how many people would need it, add a draught on to that and less snow pact melt and now we have a crises any plans to NOW put water back in it? or that idea still flying over their heads? I do hope you're not serious. Otherwise I'm speechless. The real solution is to free the Colorado River by removing the lakes. The evaporation from Lakes Mead And Powell are in the MILLIONS of acre feet over a decade Leaving us with a narrow ribbon of ephemeral depth and wildly fluctuating flows of use to hardly any. Natural? Yes. Useful? Nope. Did you know in the wet years of the 1920s they used to be able to take steam paddleboats up the now desiccated Lower Colorado to Yuma, Az? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915544 United States 07/26/2022 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The builders of the Hoover Dam, the government and the people that wanted to give the west electricity They never foresaw an increase in population? HORSE SHIT Nope. Typical human short-sightedness. Want to learn what really happened, even how an accident made the awful brine pit known as the Slaton Sea? Start here: [link to www.goodreads.com (secure)] [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] In 1953, Waters was awarded the Taos Artists Award for Notable Achievement in the Art of Writing. Waters also held positions as information consultant for Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory, New Mexico, and for the City of Las Vegas, Nevada, (1952–1956). He held a variety of other jobs, including writer for C.O. Whitney Motion Picture Co., Los Angeles (1957), writer-in-residence at Colorado State University, Fort Collins (1966); and director, New Mexico Arts Commission, Santa Fe, New Mexico, (1966–68).[3] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915544 United States 07/26/2022 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much of Lake Meads water shortage is IS FLUSHED OUT TO THE OCEAN Damned little if any - read the thread - there has been no Colorado River flow into Mexico since the 1980s - only 2014 stands as an example of experimental flow and wetland improvement. Do you have any clue where treated effluent in Arizona goes? [link to scholar.law.colorado.edu (secure)] Recognizing that groundwater mining could not go unabated, in 1980 Arizona enacted a revoluntary groundwater management code designed to reduce Arizona's reliance on groundwater. In order to meet the goals of the Code, Arizona must use all of its water resources - including effluent - wisely. The Arizona Department of Water Resources currently estimates that by 2025 between 600,000 and 700,000 acre feet of effluent will be generated annually in the State's most heavily populated areas. Ideally, this effluent should be used in place of groundwater. Lake Mead Total inflows for water year 2022: 6,109,426 acre feet Total releases for water year 2022: 7,650,133 acre feet Yes, they have to satisfy downstream users, largely ag-based. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915544 United States 07/26/2022 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lake Mead could rise tomorrow if they cutoff the golf courses and farmers. That will happen long before Las Vegas goes dry. Quoting: VegasRick Sorry haters. Lake Mead could rise tomorrow if they just close the flood gates. Dead WRONG! There's literally ZERO flow from the Colorado River into it now - look at the satellite imagery, lower arm: [link to earthobservatory.nasa.gov (secure)] What you see there is called "ponding" and it occurs when water flow is unable to proceed due to low level and geographic impediments. I predict Lake Mead may run dry by Christmas of THIS YEAR! For those who still believe the bogus inflow #'s the goobermint cites - it could take till next year - barely. [link to www.nps.gov (secure)] The water inflow into the Colorado River has been below average for 13 out of the past 16 years, with average water inflow since 2000 just 79 percent of the previous 30-year average. The period 2000-2015 had the lowest water availability of any 16-year period in the last 60 years. Projections for the future indicate that an imbalance in the system will persist: there will not be enough water naturally coming into the system to replenish what we are removing. This has prompted water managers from the seven Colorado River Basin states as well as Department of the Interior to develop a comprehensive study looking in detail at water supply and demand over the next 50 years. That study found that by 2060 the use demand on the Colorado River will be greater than the projected supply by 3.2 million acre feet (that’s enough water for approximately 16 million people for one year). |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83277861 United States 07/26/2022 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lake Mead could rise tomorrow if they cutoff the golf courses and farmers. That will happen long before Las Vegas goes dry. Quoting: VegasRick Sorry haters. Lake Mead could rise tomorrow if they just close the flood gates. Dead WRONG! There's literally ZERO flow from the Colorado River into it now - look at the satellite imagery, lower arm: [link to earthobservatory.nasa.gov (secure)] What you see there is called "ponding" and it occurs when water flow is unable to proceed due to low level and geographic impediments. I predict Lake Mead may run dry by Christmas of THIS YEAR! For those who still believe the bogus inflow #'s the goobermint cites - it could take till next year - barely. [link to www.nps.gov (secure)] The water inflow into the Colorado River has been below average for 13 out of the past 16 years, with average water inflow since 2000 just 79 percent of the previous 30-year average. The period 2000-2015 had the lowest water availability of any 16-year period in the last 60 years. Projections for the future indicate that an imbalance in the system will persist: there will not be enough water naturally coming into the system to replenish what we are removing. This has prompted water managers from the seven Colorado River Basin states as well as Department of the Interior to develop a comprehensive study looking in detail at water supply and demand over the next 50 years. That study found that by 2060 the use demand on the Colorado River will be greater than the projected supply by 3.2 million acre feet (that’s enough water for approximately 16 million people for one year). Lake Mead Total inflows for water year 2022: 6,109,426 acre feet Total releases for water year 2022: 7,650,133 acre feet You can look here and see it's all bullshit. [link to www.water-data.com] Look at All the Lakes on the Colorado. Then there is all the natural lakes. They're all full. Just tear Lake Mead down already. They've been talking about that for decades. People come and people go. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76815515 United States 07/26/2022 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're also intentionally starting all the fires. They're also burning down all the food manufacturing factories. They're evil as fuck and totally out of control. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76815515 United States 07/26/2022 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The entire drought is manufactured and created intentionally. They're using their H.A.A.R.P technology and constantly manipulating the weather and climate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76815515 They're also intentionally starting all the fires. They're also burning down all the food manufacturing factories. They're evil as fuck and totally out of control. I can't believe after 7 pages of replies/comments no one has mentioned HAARP until I did. The droughts are all planned and artificially created intentionally. It's weather warfare. We're being attacked with droughts, fires, earthquakes, etc. All controlled now and intentional. Yes, it's that fucking bad. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76815515 United States 07/26/2022 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The entire drought is manufactured and created intentionally. They're using their H.A.A.R.P technology and constantly manipulating the weather and climate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76815515 They're also intentionally starting all the fires. They're also burning down all the food manufacturing factories. They're evil as fuck and totally out of control. I can't believe after 7 pages of replies/comments no one has mentioned HAARP until I did. The droughts are all planned and artificially created intentionally. It's weather warfare. We're being attacked with droughts, fires, earthquakes, etc. All controlled now and intentional. Yes, it's that fucking bad. And I forgot to mention, the intentionally created hurricanes, heatwaves, freak freezes (Texas last year), etc etc etc. Now they play God with the weather. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915544 United States 07/27/2022 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lake Mead could rise tomorrow if they cutoff the golf courses and farmers. That will happen long before Las Vegas goes dry. Quoting: VegasRick Sorry haters. Lake Mead could rise tomorrow if they just close the flood gates. Dead WRONG! There's literally ZERO flow from the Colorado River into it now - look at the satellite imagery, lower arm: [link to earthobservatory.nasa.gov (secure)] What you see there is called "ponding" and it occurs when water flow is unable to proceed due to low level and geographic impediments. I predict Lake Mead may run dry by Christmas of THIS YEAR! For those who still believe the bogus inflow #'s the goobermint cites - it could take till next year - barely. [link to www.nps.gov (secure)] The water inflow into the Colorado River has been below average for 13 out of the past 16 years, with average water inflow since 2000 just 79 percent of the previous 30-year average. The period 2000-2015 had the lowest water availability of any 16-year period in the last 60 years. Projections for the future indicate that an imbalance in the system will persist: there will not be enough water naturally coming into the system to replenish what we are removing. This has prompted water managers from the seven Colorado River Basin states as well as Department of the Interior to develop a comprehensive study looking in detail at water supply and demand over the next 50 years. That study found that by 2060 the use demand on the Colorado River will be greater than the projected supply by 3.2 million acre feet (that’s enough water for approximately 16 million people for one year). Lake Mead Total inflows for water year 2022: 6,109,426 acre feet Total releases for water year 2022: 7,650,133 acre feet You can look here and see it's all bullshit. [link to www.water-data.com] Look at All the Lakes on the Colorado. Then there is all the natural lakes. They're all full. Just tear Lake Mead down already. They've been talking about that for decades. People come and people go. The lower lakes residing along the Colorado River basin in Colorado, and adjacent states, are NOT full! [link to www.lakelevels.info (secure)] Lake Name Current Level Full Pool +/- Full Pool Blue Mesa (CO) 7,460.71 7,519.00 -58.29 Morrow Point (CO) 7,151.68 7,160.00 -8.32 Navajo (NM CO) 6,024.11 6,085.00 -60.89 At the top of the chain, where the river originates, Lake Granby is in the best shape after a strong winter snowpack this year in the northern Rockies: [link to snoflo.org (secure)] KEY RATIOS & STATS Last Updated 2022-07-27 Gage Height 3.82 ft Observed Discharge 76cfs 24hr Flow Prediction 21 cfs Percent of Normal 89% [link to bluemesa.water-data.com (secure)] By content, Blue Mesa is 44.79% of Full Pool (829,500 af) So if Colorado allegedly is holding water hostage at the headwaters, why then are the rest of the state basins so low? You just have to learn how many basins are in the state and how their precip. rates have varied in this drought. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915544 United States 07/27/2022 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to cowboystatedaily.com (secure)] If water levels in reservoirs around Wyoming are looking a little low, well, they are. U.S. Bureau of Reclamation and irrigation district officials across the state are reporting that reservoirs levels are well below their capacities. In Cody, the Buffalo Bill Reservoir contains far less water than it has in the past. David Merrell, with the Bureau of Reclamation office in Mills, told Cowboy State Daily that water behind the Buffalo Bill Dam is currently at 60% of its capacity. A graph charting water levels at Buffalo Bill for the last 30 years bears that out. Although the fact islands have surfaced at the shallower end of the reservoir, this year’s levels are still above those recorded in 2001. Levels that year were the lowest seen in the last 30 years and were 22 feet below current readings. Similarly, Bonnie Hueckstaedt, with Eden Valley Irrigation in the state’s southwest corner, told Cowboy State Daily the region’s reservoir, the Big Sandy, is at about 68% of normal right now. |