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...The site is also identified as Timnath-heres or Timnath-serah, a town which, according to the Book of Joshua, was given by the Israelites to the prophet and was where he lived and was buried. The tomb of Caleb is also believed to be at the site.

The site was surveyed in the 1800's and is mentioned in a number of historical documents. Remnants from the biblical period, the Hasmonean period, the Roman period and the Ottoman period were found at the site throughout the 1900's.


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Re: First archaeological dig begins at site believed to be Joshua's tomb
Fun fact: Jesus' name in Aramaic (Yeshu) was basically a form of the H_brew name Yehoshua (Joshua).


He was named after some famous Joshuas.







It was this first Joshua that led the Israelites into the promised land.



So, I am sure it means nothing that people are looking for his tomb right now -- in the West Bank.
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If they're looking for their origins they would be much better off digging up the Ukraine
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Who's Joshua?
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If they're looking for their origins they would be much better off digging up the Ukraine
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They are probably way more Russian and German than Kh_zar, but ok.


I think this is interesting with respect to religious and cultural history.


But archaeology is not everyone's bag.



I studied it some at university (with some world class lecturers).


I find it interesting.
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Who's Joshua?
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My Russian-J_wish step-father is very tall as was his father.



I think a Cossack got under his great-grandmother's skirt.


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"In the end, we are simply passing through history..."



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"Did any of you guys ever go to Sunday school?"


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Now, I don't know for a fact that they WILL discover anything relating to Joshua or Caleb, but...


I don't know for a fact that they WON'T.
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Very interesting. Wish I could be there working on it.
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Very interesting. Wish I could be there working on it.
 Quoting: PSA


Well, although I thought about it when I was young, I didn't wind up going into it.


I was much more interested in cultural anthro and arcaheology than dinosaurs or physical anthro, say.




Almost minored in anthro and archaeology.
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It would be interesting to me if EGYPTIAN antiquities were found there.

Joshua, of course, was born in Egypt, travelled with Moses and the Israelites out of Egypt and supposedly -- the Israelites were given treasure to take with them out of Egypt, so...

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If they're looking for their origins they would be much better off digging up the Ukraine
 Quoting: aningeniousname


They are probably way more Russian and German than Kh_zar, but ok.


I think this is interesting with respect to religious and cultural history.


But archaeology is not everyone's bag.



I studied it some at university (with some world class lecturers).


I find it interesting.
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Didn't say it wasn't interesting it is just that archaeology in that part of the world is very political and there is a lot of fakery going on. The Ashkenazi are mostly from the area around Kiev. Which is very interesting if you take into account the religion of a lot of the leading Ukrainian politicians and oligarchs including our hero Zelensky.

I Recommend the thirteenth tribe by Arthur koestler for further reading on the subject.
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Exodus 12:31-42
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Israel Leaves Egypt


31 During the night the king called for Moses and Aaron and said, “Get up and leave my people. You and your people may do as you have asked; go and worship the Lord. 32 Take all of your flocks and herds as you have asked, and go. And also bless me.” 33 The Egyptians also asked the Israelites to hurry and leave, saying, “If you don’t leave, we will all die!”

34 So the people took their dough before the yeast was added. They wrapped the bowls for making dough in clothing and carried them on their shoulders. 35 The Israelites did what Moses told them to do and asked their Egyptian neighbors for things made of silver and gold and for clothing. 36 The Lord caused the Egyptians to think well of them, and the Egyptians gave the people everything they asked for. So the Israelites took rich gifts from them.

37 The Israelites traveled from Rameses to Succoth. There were about six hundred thousand men walking, not including the women and children. 38 Many other people who were not Israelites went with them, as well as a large number of sheep, goats, and cattle. 39 The Israelites used the dough they had brought out of Egypt to bake loaves of bread without yeast. The dough had no yeast in it, because they had been rushed out of Egypt and had no time to get food ready for their trip.

40 The people of Israel had lived in Egypt for four hundred thirty years; 41 on the very day the four hundred thirty years ended, the Lord’s divisions of people left Egypt. 42 That night the Lord kept watch to bring them out of Egypt, and so on this same night the Israelites are to keep watch to honor the Lord from now on.

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Re: First archaeological dig begins at site believed to be Joshua's tomb
If they're looking for their origins they would be much better off digging up the Ukraine
 Quoting: aningeniousname


They are probably way more Russian and German than Kh_zar, but ok.


I think this is interesting with respect to religious and cultural history.


But archaeology is not everyone's bag.



I studied it some at university (with some world class lecturers).


I find it interesting.
 Quoting: Mr. Tiger Blood


Didn't say it wasn't interesting it is just that archaeology in that part of the world is very political and there is a lot of fakery going on. The Ashkenazi are mostly from the area around Kiev. Which is very interesting if you take into account the religion of a lot of the leading Ukrainian politicians and oligarchs including our hero Zelensky.

I Recommend the thirteenth tribe by Arthur koestler for further reading on the subject.
 Quoting: aningeniousname

I've read it.


And no, I don't believe the Kh_zar theory.


Please don't derail my thread.

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Re: First archaeological dig begins at site believed to be Joshua's tomb
Egyptian antiquities, if found there...especially goods made from precious metals...would be strong proof that it was the burial ground of Hoshea (Joshua) and Caleb.
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I highly doubt they will find ossuaries that say "These are the bones of Joshua" or "these are the bones of Caleb."
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We can debate whether modern-day people are directly related to the ancient Israelites, but that Israelites existed is a matter of historical fact.


One has only to read the major authors of Greek and Roman history.
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Anyway, I will not allow debate on the "Kh_zar Theory" on this thread.
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If they find a horn it's gonna be like "I'm not gonna blow it. You blow it. Hey let's get Mikey. He won't blow it. He blows everything."
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If they're looking for their origins they would be much better off digging up the Ukraine
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You are a moron.
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If they're looking for their origins they would be much better off digging up the Ukraine
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You are a moron.
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He's already been warned.

This is not the thread for that debate.
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Will be interesting to see what they find. I don’t happen to believe the Israelites conquered their way into Canaan; I think it was a gradual settling into the land peacefully, and that the wars depicted in Numbers, Joshua and Judges were added into their history later by taking the raids of Egyptians, displaced Hyksos, and Philistines and turning them into Israelite exploits in order to justify them turning to having kings who took them to war and being able to insist it’s the kind of behavior the true God would want from them.

There was a dark ages period after the late Bronze Age collapse where writing and record keeping disappeared for around 400 years, and therefore records could be created later and presented as actual history in order to fool the people into supporting their agenda of endless war against other peoples.

The Lesser Known Dark Ages which you have probably never heard of
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Theories of the Israelite occupation of the Land of Canaan
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Did the Israelites really conquer Canaan
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Will be interesting to see what they find. I don’t happen to believe the Israelites conquered their way into Canaan; I think it was a gradual settling into the land peacefully, and that the wars depicted in Numbers, Joshua and Judges were added into their history later by taking the raids of Egyptians, displaced Hyksos, and Philistines and turning them into Israelite exploits in order to justify them turning to having kings who took them to war and being able to insist it’s the kind of behavior the true God would want from them.

There was a dark ages period after the late Bronze Age collapse where writing and record keeping disappeared for around 400 years, and therefore records could be created later and presented as actual history in order to fool the people into supporting their agenda of endless war against other peoples.

The Lesser Known Dark Ages which you have probably never heard of
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Theories of the Israelite occupation of the Land of Canaan
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Did the Israelites really conquer Canaan
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That could well be correct.


The wars of conquest might have been mythology.
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If they're looking for their origins they would be much better off digging up the Ukraine
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idf6 And screw you too.
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Re: First archaeological dig begins at site believed to be Joshua's tomb
Fun fact: Jesus' name in Aramaic (Yeshu) was basically a form of the H_brew name Yehoshua (Joshua).


He was named after some famous Joshuas.


 Quoting: Mr. Tiger Blood


His name translation's is god is salvation (deliverance)
Jerusalem, my happy home,
When shall I come to thee?
When shall my sorrows have an end?
Thy joys when shall I see?

O Christ, do Thou my soul prepare
For that bright home of love
That I may see Thee and adore
With all Thy saints above.
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Re: First archaeological dig begins at site believed to be Joshua's tomb
Fun fact: Jesus' name in Aramaic (Yeshu) was basically a form of the H_brew name Yehoshua (Joshua).


He was named after some famous Joshuas.


 Quoting: Mr. Tiger Blood


His name translation's is god is salvation (deliverance)
 Quoting: Jack The Leper


Yes, I was aware.

But thanks.
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Re: First archaeological dig begins at site believed to be Joshua's tomb
Now there is some debate as to WHEN the exodus took place.


Findings at this dig could possibly help date the earliest Israelite settlement (or re-settlement) in the Holy Land.

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While ancient Egyptian texts from the New Kingdom mention "Asiatics" living in Egypt as slaves and workers, these people cannot be securely connected to the Israelites, and no contemporary Egyptian text mentions a large-scale exodus of slaves like that described in the Bible.[35] The earliest surviving historical mention of the Israelites, the Egyptian Merneptah Stele (c. 1207 BCE), appears to place them in or around Canaan and gives no indication of any exodus.[36] Archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman say that archaeology has not found any evidence for even a small band of wandering Israelites living in the Sinai: "The conclusion – that Exodus did not happen at the time and in the manner described in the Bible – seems irrefutable [...] repeated excavations and surveys throughout the entire area have not provided even the slightest evidence."[37] Instead, modern archaeology suggests continuity between Canaanite and Israelite settlement, indicating a primarily Canaanite origin for Israel, with no suggestion that a group of foreigners from Egypt comprised early Israel.[38][39]


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