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Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??

 
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Why not buy the house from him, and then as his landlord, provide a rent-to-own lease?
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Buy his salt shaker for $50k cash.
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then sell salt shaker for 2 and take a lose of 49998
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07/30/2022 08:32 PM
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
Open a checking account with both your names on it. Let him draw from it.
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I have thought of that. Opening a checking account with a debit card and just giving him the debit card on that account to do with as he wishes.

But at some point, if he were to pay off a LOC for his house, he might have to explain how he did that if there were an audit of some sort.
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Give him a personal loan with a promissory note. Make the terms what you want. Do you have to involve the house in it?
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You have $50,000 plus taxes and penalties on the line and aren’t willing to pay your CPA for a few minutes of their time to get the correct answer that is legal and correct.

Okey dokey.
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07/30/2022 10:18 PM
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
Tax guy here (EA). The gift of $50K to pay off the current mortgage, then forgiving $16K a year over four years isn’t a bad idea. The IRS could challenge this, as it may appear as not a bona-fide loan; disguised gift.

I think the safest approach is to make it a Gift, the entire $50K. Report the Gift, minus $16K (32K if the brother is married). If you are married and your brother is married, you and your wife can elect to split the Gift. Splitting the Gift will allow you and your wife to gift $12,500 from each of you to each of them and neither you nor your wife would use your Lifetime Exclusion, but, you and your wife would be required to report the Gift on a Form 709.

If neither you nor your brother are married, you’d use up $34,000 ($50,000 - $16,000) of your Lifetime Exclusion, big deal. You’d have another $12M to use up if the crazy Dems don’t reduce this in future years.

Or, slow play it and gift him $16K a year to put chunks down on the mortgage. No Gift Tax Return to file, but also no immediate result.

Just my two cents.
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07/30/2022 10:38 PM
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
Hi folks... I have a friend I want to help out. He only owes 50k on his house and its on an adjustable Line of Credit.

My thoughts were to pay off that loan for him in exchange for a 50K lean against his property, which he would then make small payments to me at a very low interest rate.

My intent is to give this free and clear in some way, but in a legal manner where he wouldn't have to pay a tax on the money.

I'm wondering if I simply pay off the loan with the stipulation that I receive a payback when the house is sold in the future, if that would suffice in him 'trading' 50k in cash for me holding 50K against his property.

If there are other ways to do this in a legally then please offer your comments.

Thanks!

BTW, I would call my CPA about it but he charges 250.00 an hour and I don't really want to go that route right now if I can find some info here or elsewhere.
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Yes; Get the name, address and account number, and the exact balance due, and send them a check directly from yourself.
And yes, it is that easy.
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You can always have an attorney draft a loan document up for you if you are not comfortable using a variety of documents available for little to no money on the net.
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07/30/2022 10:48 PM
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
Hi folks... I have a friend I want to help out. He only owes 50k on his house and its on an adjustable Line of Credit.

My thoughts were to pay off that loan for him in exchange for a 50K lean against his property, which he would then make small payments to me at a very low interest rate.

My intent is to give this free and clear in some way, but in a legal manner where he wouldn't have to pay a tax on the money.

I'm wondering if I simply pay off the loan with the stipulation that I receive a payback when the house is sold in the future, if that would suffice in him 'trading' 50k in cash for me holding 50K against his property.

If there are other ways to do this in a legally then please offer your comments.

Thanks!

BTW, I would call my CPA about it but he charges 250.00 an hour and I don't really want to go that route right now if I can find some info here or elsewhere.
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If you don’t know the difference between “lean” and “lien”, you have no business loaning money to anyone.
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Very enlightening thread, impressive.
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07/30/2022 10:51 PM
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
You can always have an attorney draft a loan document up for you if you are not comfortable using a variety of documents available for little to no money on the net.
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And by way of disclaimer, I am not offering legal or tax advice
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07/30/2022 10:54 PM
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
I had money.
I had a friend.
I lent my friend my money.
Now I have neither friend nor money.
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Yes me too, It is a little like helping someone out by giving them a place to stay free... they will abuse it like hell and then twist it in their sick mind to being a house share forgetting they pay nothing and are a guest.
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07/30/2022 10:57 PM
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
Did you pay taxes on that 50 grand already?


You should not be taxed or should I say double taxed for money you already pay tax on despite who you give it to or what you spent it on.

But here we are.
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07/30/2022 11:05 PM
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
Hi folks... I have a friend I want to help out. He only owes 50k on his house and its on an adjustable Line of Credit.

My thoughts were to pay off that loan for him in exchange for a 50K lean against his property, which he would then make small payments to me at a very low interest rate.

My intent is to give this free and clear in some way, but in a legal manner where he wouldn't have to pay a tax on the money.

I'm wondering if I simply pay off the loan with the stipulation that I receive a payback when the house is sold in the future, if that would suffice in him 'trading' 50k in cash for me holding 50K against his property.

If there are other ways to do this in a legally then please offer your comments.

Thanks!

BTW, I would call my CPA about it but he charges 250.00 an hour and I don't really want to go that route right now if I can find some info here or elsewhere.
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Open a checking account and put both your names on it.
- None of it matters
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07/30/2022 11:23 PM
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
Buy $50,000 in Amazon gift cards and give to him.
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07/30/2022 11:31 PM
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
Hi folks... I have a friend I want to help out. He only owes 50k on his house and its on an adjustable Line of Credit.

My thoughts were to pay off that loan for him in exchange for a 50K lean against his property, which he would then make small payments to me at a very low interest rate.

My intent is to give this free and clear in some way, but in a legal manner where he wouldn't have to pay a tax on the money.

I'm wondering if I simply pay off the loan with the stipulation that I receive a payback when the house is sold in the future, if that would suffice in him 'trading' 50k in cash for me holding 50K against his property.

If there are other ways to do this in a legally then please offer your comments.

Thanks!

BTW, I would call my CPA about it but he charges 250.00 an hour and I don't really want to go that route right now if I can find some info here or elsewhere.
 Quoting: Magnison


XRP
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
You're willing to give a friend $50k but scoff at paying a CPA $250/hour for sound advice?
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Thus the reason I have 50K extra to help someone.
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Buy the CPA lunch under your business, LLC , Foundation etc etc etc... Tax deductible, get sound advice...


There is a way to do this that you get a write off and its tax free for them, my grandfather did it for my parents in something similar ..... I wouldn't go with a lein because if something happens and you forget to re-up the lein, you could miss out. (If i'm not mistaken some states leins have to be updated every so often)
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07/30/2022 11:37 PM
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
Loan him $50,000. Have him sign for it at a low but believable rate. Each year check what the tax free gift amount is and give him that much forgiveness on the loan.

If you want the forgiveness documented you can trade checks with him for the documented gift and payoff each year.

The first year you can just give the gift separate from the loan and reduce the loan amount if you like.
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08/04/2022 08:23 AM
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
Quit claim.


You will have to buy a house or some property first.
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08/04/2022 08:44 AM
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
You can loan him the money. Loans are not considered income. If he pays it back or not is up to you. If you expect to have him pay it back, make sure that you have rock solid paperwork.

Even then, the agreement is only as good as the honor of the person standing behind it.

Good Luck.
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08/04/2022 08:58 AM
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Re: Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax??
I had money.
I had a friend.
I lent my friend my money.
Now I have neither friend nor money.
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Your friend was never your friend...
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I had money.
I had a friend.
I lent my friend my money.
Now I have neither friend nor money.
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Your friend was never your friend...
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"You are not my friend my friend"-Salladhor Saan GoTh





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