Does anyone know how to give 50,000.00 to a friend without them having to pay a gift tax?? | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83889862 United States 07/30/2022 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Open a checking account with both your names on it. Let him draw from it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83937132 I have thought of that. Opening a checking account with a debit card and just giving him the debit card on that account to do with as he wishes. But at some point, if he were to pay off a LOC for his house, he might have to explain how he did that if there were an audit of some sort. Give him a personal loan with a promissory note. Make the terms what you want. Do you have to involve the house in it? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77075445 United States 07/30/2022 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tax guy here (EA). The gift of $50K to pay off the current mortgage, then forgiving $16K a year over four years isn’t a bad idea. The IRS could challenge this, as it may appear as not a bona-fide loan; disguised gift. I think the safest approach is to make it a Gift, the entire $50K. Report the Gift, minus $16K (32K if the brother is married). If you are married and your brother is married, you and your wife can elect to split the Gift. Splitting the Gift will allow you and your wife to gift $12,500 from each of you to each of them and neither you nor your wife would use your Lifetime Exclusion, but, you and your wife would be required to report the Gift on a Form 709. If neither you nor your brother are married, you’d use up $34,000 ($50,000 - $16,000) of your Lifetime Exclusion, big deal. You’d have another $12M to use up if the crazy Dems don’t reduce this in future years. Or, slow play it and gift him $16K a year to put chunks down on the mortgage. No Gift Tax Return to file, but also no immediate result. Just my two cents. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83866402 United States 07/30/2022 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi folks... I have a friend I want to help out. He only owes 50k on his house and its on an adjustable Line of Credit. Quoting: Magnison My thoughts were to pay off that loan for him in exchange for a 50K lean against his property, which he would then make small payments to me at a very low interest rate. My intent is to give this free and clear in some way, but in a legal manner where he wouldn't have to pay a tax on the money. I'm wondering if I simply pay off the loan with the stipulation that I receive a payback when the house is sold in the future, if that would suffice in him 'trading' 50k in cash for me holding 50K against his property. If there are other ways to do this in a legally then please offer your comments. Thanks! BTW, I would call my CPA about it but he charges 250.00 an hour and I don't really want to go that route right now if I can find some info here or elsewhere. Yes; Get the name, address and account number, and the exact balance due, and send them a check directly from yourself. And yes, it is that easy. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83912981 United States 07/30/2022 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi folks... I have a friend I want to help out. He only owes 50k on his house and its on an adjustable Line of Credit. Quoting: Magnison My thoughts were to pay off that loan for him in exchange for a 50K lean against his property, which he would then make small payments to me at a very low interest rate. My intent is to give this free and clear in some way, but in a legal manner where he wouldn't have to pay a tax on the money. I'm wondering if I simply pay off the loan with the stipulation that I receive a payback when the house is sold in the future, if that would suffice in him 'trading' 50k in cash for me holding 50K against his property. If there are other ways to do this in a legally then please offer your comments. Thanks! BTW, I would call my CPA about it but he charges 250.00 an hour and I don't really want to go that route right now if I can find some info here or elsewhere. If you don’t know the difference between “lean” and “lien”, you have no business loaning money to anyone. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83936593 Australia 07/30/2022 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81003523 I had a friend. I lent my friend my money. Now I have neither friend nor money. Yes me too, It is a little like helping someone out by giving them a place to stay free... they will abuse it like hell and then twist it in their sick mind to being a house share forgetting they pay nothing and are a guest. |
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Hybs User ID: 80649409 United States 07/30/2022 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi folks... I have a friend I want to help out. He only owes 50k on his house and its on an adjustable Line of Credit. Quoting: Magnison My thoughts were to pay off that loan for him in exchange for a 50K lean against his property, which he would then make small payments to me at a very low interest rate. My intent is to give this free and clear in some way, but in a legal manner where he wouldn't have to pay a tax on the money. I'm wondering if I simply pay off the loan with the stipulation that I receive a payback when the house is sold in the future, if that would suffice in him 'trading' 50k in cash for me holding 50K against his property. If there are other ways to do this in a legally then please offer your comments. Thanks! BTW, I would call my CPA about it but he charges 250.00 an hour and I don't really want to go that route right now if I can find some info here or elsewhere. Open a checking account and put both your names on it. - None of it matters |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78131002 United States 07/30/2022 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi folks... I have a friend I want to help out. He only owes 50k on his house and its on an adjustable Line of Credit. Quoting: Magnison My thoughts were to pay off that loan for him in exchange for a 50K lean against his property, which he would then make small payments to me at a very low interest rate. My intent is to give this free and clear in some way, but in a legal manner where he wouldn't have to pay a tax on the money. I'm wondering if I simply pay off the loan with the stipulation that I receive a payback when the house is sold in the future, if that would suffice in him 'trading' 50k in cash for me holding 50K against his property. If there are other ways to do this in a legally then please offer your comments. Thanks! BTW, I would call my CPA about it but he charges 250.00 an hour and I don't really want to go that route right now if I can find some info here or elsewhere. XRP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83922841 United States 07/30/2022 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're willing to give a friend $50k but scoff at paying a CPA $250/hour for sound advice? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83133948 Thus the reason I have 50K extra to help someone. Buy the CPA lunch under your business, LLC , Foundation etc etc etc... Tax deductible, get sound advice... There is a way to do this that you get a write off and its tax free for them, my grandfather did it for my parents in something similar ..... I wouldn't go with a lein because if something happens and you forget to re-up the lein, you could miss out. (If i'm not mistaken some states leins have to be updated every so often) |
ADEND User ID: 83194324 United States 07/30/2022 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Loan him $50,000. Have him sign for it at a low but believable rate. Each year check what the tax free gift amount is and give him that much forgiveness on the loan. If you want the forgiveness documented you can trade checks with him for the documented gift and payoff each year. The first year you can just give the gift separate from the loan and reduce the loan amount if you like. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68852818 United States 08/04/2022 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even then, the agreement is only as good as the honor of the person standing behind it. Good Luck. |
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