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WITHOUT CONSENT: DNA FROM NEWBORN BABIES IS BEING USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SCIENCE

 
The Future Hegemon
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WITHOUT CONSENT: DNA FROM NEWBORN BABIES IS BEING USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SCIENCE
Police departments in New Jersey have recently come under fire for using DNA from newborn babies to solve crimes without public knowledge or consent. The DNA is also being obtained without a warrant, a blatant violation of the law.

According to The Verge:

New Jersey police may have used blood samples taken from babies to investigate crimes, according to public defenders in the state.

According to a lawsuit filed by the New Jersey Office of the Public Defender (OPD), the practice came to light after a case in which New Jersey State Police successfully subpoenaed a testing lab for a blood sample drawn from a child. Police then performed DNA analysis on the blood sample that reportedly linked the child’s father to a crime committed more than 25 years ago.

The blood samples are not directly shared with law enforcement agencies. But if police are able to reliably obtain the samples through subpoena, then effectively, the disease screening process is entering all babies born in the state into a DNA database with no ability to opt out.

According to the lawsuit, parents and the public at large are unaware that blood samples taken from their children could be used in this way.

Biometric Update provides further details, stating:

Unless parents claim a religious exemption, all babies in New Jersey are sampled. All states and the District of Columbia store the blood, but practices and policies vary.

There seems to be a shared sense of the unusualness of taking DNA evidence without a warrant from a subject who could not provide informed consent and without a parent’s permission.

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Re: WITHOUT CONSENT: DNA FROM NEWBORN BABIES IS BEING USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SCIENCE
They are working hard to get their biometric database up and running nation wide one city at a time.
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Re: WITHOUT CONSENT: DNA FROM NEWBORN BABIES IS BEING USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SCIENCE
they take your finger prints & dna when you're arrested in my town..... wonder what they do with it when you're acquitted?
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Re: WITHOUT CONSENT: DNA FROM NEWBORN BABIES IS BEING USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SCIENCE
they take your finger prints & dna when you're arrested in my town..... wonder what they do with it when you're acquitted?
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Im sure they keep the records innocent or not.
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Re: WITHOUT CONSENT: DNA FROM NEWBORN BABIES IS BEING USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SCIENCE
A few year back in one of the Carolinas where it was flat our illegal to have Sex with a female if she was under 18, YEP ... EVEN IF MARRIED (marriage was OK at 16) there was a Female Prosecutor who used DNA evidence from newborns to send the biological father TO PRISON!!

YEP even send Men who were LEGALLY MARRIED to the woman who gave birth she was SENDING TO PRISON.

Two 17 year olds have sex? ... the MALE IS TO GO TO PRISON was her strict "Law and Order" Approach to her job. Married? ... NO DEFENSE ... off to the State Prison the male goes for several years.

The entire testing of newborn's DNA is a sticky wicket.

Traditionally woman have totally opposed the testing of their new born's blood, even wrt old style Blood Typing, because of the the issue of Paternity Fraud (old studies indicated that 25% to 35% of all newborns in days of old using just blood typing, before DNA testing even existed, could NOT be the child of the father listed on the Birth Certificate).

"IF" they are going to rule this is legal then the alleged fathers of those newborns who are tested should have access to those results so they can see if they are REALLY THE FATHER of the newborn.

Paternity Fraud is STILL a huge issue in the United States, costing non-fathers in the many BILLION$$ of Dollars each year, and if the government is going to go down this route of DNA Testing it is time to Shine The Light on this dark corner Fraudulent Behavior.
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This is yet another important reason to always have your kids at home, and keep both yourself and your kids far from the medical gestapo!
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08/05/2022 09:17 AM

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A few year back in one of the Carolinas where it was flat our illegal to have Sex with a female if she was under 18, YEP ... EVEN IF MARRIED (marriage was OK at 16) there was a Female Prosecutor who used DNA evidence from newborns to send the biological father TO PRISON!!

YEP even send Men who were LEGALLY MARRIED to the woman who gave birth she was SENDING TO PRISON.

Two 17 year olds have sex? ... the MALE IS TO GO TO PRISON was her strict "Law and Order" Approach to her job. Married? ... NO DEFENSE ... off to the State Prison the male goes for several years.

The entire testing of newborn's DNA is a sticky wicket.

Traditionally woman have totally opposed the testing of their new born's blood, even wrt old style Blood Typing, because of the the issue of Paternity Fraud (old studies indicated that 25% to 35% of all newborns in days of old using just blood typing, before DNA testing even existed, could NOT be the child of the father listed on the Birth Certificate).

"IF" they are going to rule this is legal then the alleged fathers of those newborns who are tested should have access to those results so they can see if they are REALLY THE FATHER of the newborn.

Paternity Fraud is STILL a huge issue in the United States, costing non-fathers in the many BILLION$$ of Dollars each year, and if the government is going to go down this route of DNA Testing it is time to Shine The Light on this dark corner Fraudulent Behavior.
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Wow thats insane.
I thought commanders could order anything.”
"They can order the moon to turn blue, too, but it doesn't happen. Listen, Ender, commanders have just as much authority as you let them have. The more you obey them, the more power they have over you.
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This is yet another important reason to always have your kids at home, and keep both yourself and your kids far from the medical gestapo!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83960381


The only man who should have access to a wife's vagina is her husband. Gyno's get paid to play for free, and actually get to charge for the privilege. The entire medical system is corrupt.
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This goes against multiple constitutionally guaranteed liberties and those doing it should be trialed for abuse of office and labeled as traitors
I thought commanders could order anything.”
"They can order the moon to turn blue, too, but it doesn't happen. Listen, Ender, commanders have just as much authority as you let them have. The more you obey them, the more power they have over you.





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