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Store Owner Stabs Thief To Death -- Gonna Need Some Opinions On This One...

 
Johnny Moonlight

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I think he'll be ready for them

If they exist

He's had time to prepare, he's probably ready for 5 of his friends at once (but they're too scared)

Store guy might have more and fiercer friends than dead robber guy
 Quoting: Gorgol


One thing i have learned about life.

You are never ready and you are never as bad ass as you believe.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


I am. I open carry while mowing my lawn so everyone can plainly see that this motherfucker ain't fuckin around.

rockon
 Quoting: Johnny Moonlight



Lol, one thing I wouldn't have expected someone to say here.

I carry when I mow too. There are very, very, very places or things I do that I'm not carrying.
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I do have an opinion on this


The shopkeeper should upgrade to a 12 gauge shotgun and both robbers would be dead


Carry on
 Quoting: Justsayno


Semi automatic pistol is better, for dealing with multiple threats!
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DID NOT HAVE A GUN....... IM OK WITH THIS. CLOSE. CLOSE, BUT IM OK WITH IT.
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DID NOT SEE THAT THERE WERE TWO OF THEM...SO, NOW IM MORE OK
WITH IT!
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Te lethal force in self defense LAWS in most states would put the onus on the person who killed in self defense: DI HE FEEL AN IMMEDIATE DEADLY THREAT to his life, or anyone elses present that was stopped by the act of shooting the perp (or in this case knifing him). It doesn't matter what you or I think and state of mind is VERY DIFFICULT to prove one way or another. Personally, I would have shot him.
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As would any reasonable juror.
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You have a racial motive for your opinion?

WTF does it matter what color the guy has
 Quoting: Gorgol


Because he was unarmed and property has never been a reason to kill. Nothing wrong with being white.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


Unless you're in a ski mask jumping a counter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


Only in a country that has catered to foreigners and making them big business owners for the last 40 years. All the way from Reagan killing skilled home builders of white guys in the 80s with amnesty for cheap labor.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


You.re a looozer. I never met a white "supremacist" that wasn't
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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


I'm no way justified in the northeast but I guess we'll see what Nevada laws are.

That's all that matters is the law right?


Otherwise it should be common sense you don't murder someone for stealing.
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According to the stores instagram account the guy is not dead.

[link to www.instagram.com (secure)]
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So he robbed the store, then he lied.
 Quoting: Chinaman


He's a thief and a liar. Can't take him at his word!
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What that video really shows you is how quickly someone can kill you with a knife!


You better start practicing your quick draw!


NEVER hesitate to shoot someone with a knife!




peace
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How not to get stabbed.

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Don't rob a store and you won't get dead.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Soon it will be the 1920s again and you will have groups of white guys with semi auto weapons that just shoot everyone then rob the place.

Hell they didnt fear the police and with this shit economy it will start happening again.

If any kind of war starts with another super power its going to be really fkd up because you all believe you are superman with a gun.

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According to the stores instagram account the guy is not dead.

[link to www.instagram.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83746368


So he robbed the store, then he lied.
 Quoting: Chinaman


He's a thief and a liar. Can't take him at his word!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83746368


He should have died.


Save us all the trouble of dealing with him again.
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One thing i have learned about life.

You are never ready and you are never as bad ass as you believe.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


I am. I open carry while mowing my lawn so everyone can plainly see that this motherfucker ain't fuckin around.

rockon
 Quoting: Johnny Moonlight



Lol, one thing I wouldn't have expected someone to say here.

I carry when I mow too. There are very, very, very places or things I do that I'm not carrying.
 Quoting: Strate8


That's when you need to keep your senses on orange.
 Quoting: Johnny Moonlight


It's best to ALWAYS carry, so you're always comfortable carrying a gun.

You don't want to be self conscious about carrying, and change your body language.

I keep a couple of small guns next to my car keys, and one always goes in my pocket.

peace
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Te lethal force in self defense LAWS in most states would put the onus on the person who killed in self defense: DI HE FEEL AN IMMEDIATE DEADLY THREAT to his life, or anyone elses present that was stopped by the act of shooting the perp (or in this case knifing him). It doesn't matter what you or I think and state of mind is VERY DIFFICULT to prove one way or another. Personally, I would have shot him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


That all happened in less than a couple of seconds. He didn't have the luxury of time to find that out the legalities like you did. You would have been dead if you were the store owner.
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The court will find that simple robbery isn't enough motive to kill. The store worker wasn't in fear of his life.
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Te lethal force in self defense LAWS in most states would put the onus on the person who killed in self defense: DI HE FEEL AN IMMEDIATE DEADLY THREAT to his life, or anyone elses present that was stopped by the act of shooting the perp (or in this case knifing him). It doesn't matter what you or I think and state of mind is VERY DIFFICULT to prove one way or another. Personally, I would have shot him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


That all happened in less than a couple of seconds. He didn't have the luxury of time to find that out the legalities like you did. You would have been dead if you were the store owner.
 Quoting: Chinaman


I would have shot him, I'm pretty sure. There were three of 'em
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Because he was unarmed and property has never been a reason to kill. Nothing wrong with being white.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


Unless you're in a ski mask jumping a counter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


Only in a country that has catered to foreigners and making them big business owners for the last 40 years. All the way from Reagan killing skilled home builders of white guys in the 80s with amnesty for cheap labor.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


You.re a looozer. I never met a white "supremacist" that wasn't
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


Has nothing to do with supremacy. Its about national security and a common way of life as intended by men that built the nation.
All my post are theatrical artistic writing .
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Was it "just" shoplifting, or were there other things going on that involved weapons and the fear of ones life.

That counts for something, something worth a bit more than the lives of the thieves.
 Quoting: Johnny Moonlight




Two things we know about the criminals. There were three of them (disparity of force) and one made an aggressive move. The first time I watched it I thought he was going after the owner. Why not just grab some merch on the way out? Those two things help the case for self defense. You can always second guess watching someone ten times, but the first time I saw it I did think the jump over the counter was to get to the owner. Now he grabbed cigarettes instead but the owner reacted so fast it was almost simultaneously. I think the problem the owner has is the last two stabs.
 Quoting: anon_cow


I think a sane jury would acquit him even on the last two stabs. Adrenaline thrusting you there in the moment. This was clearly not calculated. If the thief didn't say anything, would it make it more convincing to a jury?

For me, I give the shop keeper the benefit of doubt and do not second guess as I was not there and can only imagine what he was thinking. I'd probably react the same way. What I'm saying is, you end up not thinking too clearly when adrenaline and the fear of death kicks in.
 Quoting: Johnny Moonlight


Bullshit , The big Asian was holding him while he tried to get away just so he could kill him. All the way to the last stab in the back of the neck that killed him.
 Quoting: BoneTrout

I've seen all your comments and have determined that you are clearly biased and an antifa sympathizer. As such, given the irrationality of your reasoning, there is no further reason for us to debate on this issue. After all, it is clear as day to anyone with an objective view, that the shop keeper should not be charged with any crime.

That's all.
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The court will find that simple robbery isn't enough motive to kill. The store worker wasn't in fear of his life.
 Quoting: GT Bum


I don't THINK he was but I don't care , either. I don't KNOW what he was thinking.


The meth head got aggressive and he is "deactivated".
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I am. I open carry while mowing my lawn so everyone can plainly see that this motherfucker ain't fuckin around.

rockon
 Quoting: Johnny Moonlight



Lol, one thing I wouldn't have expected someone to say here.

I carry when I mow too. There are very, very, very places or things I do that I'm not carrying.
 Quoting: Strate8


That's when you need to keep your senses on orange.
 Quoting: Johnny Moonlight


It's best to ALWAYS carry, so you're always comfortable carrying a gun.

You don't want to be self conscious about carrying, and change your body language.

I keep a couple of small guns next to my car keys, and one always goes in my pocket.

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79719218


Agree completely.
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Unless you're in a ski mask jumping a counter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


Only in a country that has catered to foreigners and making them big business owners for the last 40 years. All the way from Reagan killing skilled home builders of white guys in the 80s with amnesty for cheap labor.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


You.re a looozer. I never met a white "supremacist" that wasn't
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


Has nothing to do with supremacy. Its about national security and a common way of life as intended by men that built the nation.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


YOU BUILT SHIT


It has EVERYTHING to do with white "supremacy" with you.
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The court will find that simple robbery isn't enough motive to kill. The store worker wasn't in fear of his life.
 Quoting: GT Bum


You are right. You can not be in fear for your life and approach somebody with a knife.
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The court will find that simple robbery isn't enough motive to kill. The store worker wasn't in fear of his life.
 Quoting: GT Bum


You are right. You can not be in fear for your life and approach somebody with a knife.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


You are a LOOOZER
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Only in a country that has catered to foreigners and making them big business owners for the last 40 years. All the way from Reagan killing skilled home builders of white guys in the 80s with amnesty for cheap labor.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


You.re a looozer. I never met a white "supremacist" that wasn't
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


Has nothing to do with supremacy. Its about national security and a common way of life as intended by men that built the nation.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


YOU BUILT SHIT


It has EVERYTHING to do with white "supremacy" with you.
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you wish ... blahblah5 sucker.
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The court will find that simple robbery isn't enough motive to kill. The store worker wasn't in fear of his life.
 Quoting: GT Bum


You are right. You can not be in fear for your life and approach somebody with a knife.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


You are a LOOOZER
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


A knife is only a self defense weapon if you do not approach an individual. If they approach and attack you then its a defensive weapon. Otherwise its always a premeditated attack weapon. Unless you are defending a third party.
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The court will find that simple robbery isn't enough motive to kill. The store worker wasn't in fear of his life.
 Quoting: GT Bum


I don't THINK he was but I don't care , either. I don't KNOW what he was thinking.


The meth head got aggressive and he is "deactivated".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


It took 8 seconds from the time he jumped over the counter until the time he said "I'm dead." The frightened shop owner only had a few seconds to decide to defend himself. He had no idea if the criminals had weapons or not. I'm sure he assumed they did. There were 3 of them. The dead one had something in his hand and had on a backpack.
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Te lethal force in self defense LAWS in most states would put the onus on the person who killed in self defense: DI HE FEEL AN IMMEDIATE DEADLY THREAT to his life, or anyone elses present that was stopped by the act of shooting the perp (or in this case knifing him). It doesn't matter what you or I think and state of mind is VERY DIFFICULT to prove one way or another. Personally, I would have shot him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


That all happened in less than a couple of seconds. He didn't have the luxury of time to find that out the legalities like you did. You would have been dead if you were the store owner.
 Quoting: Chinaman


I would have shot him, I'm pretty sure. There were three of 'em
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


maybe this should be the new Walmart policy for shop lifting in all stores. Just open fire randomly with hundreds of people walking around over Chinese made bullshit.
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A black bloc is a tactic used by protesters who wear black clothing, ski masks, scarves, sunglasses, motorcycle helmets with padding or other face-concealing and face-protecting items. The clothing is used to conceal wearers' identities and hinder criminal prosecution by making it difficult to distinguish between participants. It is also used to protect their faces and eyes from pepper spray, which is used by police during protests or civil unrest. The tactic allows the group to appear as one large unified mass. Black bloc participants are often associated with anarchism, anarcho-communism, communism, libertarian socialism and the anti-globalization movement.

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The robber was dressed in the right cloths for the name of the store!

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Not to worry.....the soro's funded liberal DA's will press charges against the store owner and put them in jail while awarding the criminals punitive damages......making the victim the criminal and the criminal the victim once more.
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Unless you're in a ski mask jumping a counter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


Only in a country that has catered to foreigners and making them big business owners for the last 40 years. All the way from Reagan killing skilled home builders of white guys in the 80s with amnesty for cheap labor.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


You.re a looozer. I never met a white "supremacist" that wasn't
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


Has nothing to do with supremacy. Its about national security and a common way of life as intended by men that built the nation.
 Quoting: BoneTrout


You are correct.
And the problem will only be solved by:
1) Halt to all immigration.
2) Birthright citizenship means having at least one parent that is a citizen, born of two citizens.
3) Deportation of all immigrants, backdated to 1965.
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The court will find that simple robbery isn't enough motive to kill. The store worker wasn't in fear of his life.
 Quoting: GT Bum


I don't THINK he was but I don't care , either. I don't KNOW what he was thinking.


The meth head got aggressive and he is "deactivated".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58409536


It took 8 seconds from the time he jumped over the counter until the time he said "I'm dead." The frightened shop owner only had a few seconds to decide to defend himself. He had no idea if the criminals had weapons or not. I'm sure he assumed they did. There were 3 of them. The dead one had something in his hand and had on a backpack.
 Quoting: Alpacalips


he was fkn defending property and not himself. The guy never made one move towards him or threatened him.
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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


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EVERYONE HAS HAD ENOUGH OF THESE FREELOADERS

GET A JOB YOU BASTARDOS





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