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Store Owner Stabs Thief To Death -- Gonna Need Some Opinions On This One...

 
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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


I'm no way justified in the northeast but I guess we'll see what Nevada laws are.

That's all that matters is the law right?


Otherwise it should be common sense you don't murder someone for stealing.
 Quoting: Mike 83294801


the fuck you don't. that's not stealing. stealing is walking around and slipping an item into your pocket. jumping a counter is strong arm robbery.
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The robbers were white, idiots.

The clerk has no idea what these guys were going to do. If they were armed or not doesn't matter much. You every right to defend yourself with deadly force when confronted with a robber. On the streets, at home and your place of business.

I thinks some country made it legal to kill motorcyclist robbers on sight. I think those types of crimes will drop drastically in the coming months.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76803888


Uh, look closer at the video & linked story pics…the robbers are not white…you are using the liberal media perversion of racial definition to imply that anyone not AA is automatically labeled “white”. The counter hoppers hands & shoes speak volumes…this was obviously an Asian gang attack. The store owner didn’t pay protection money and suffered the consequences or he did pay the other gang and knew these novices were out of their lane. The old mafia would’ve just burned the place down.
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I'm all for it.. he made a decision to rob that guy, beat him up and take whatever he wanted. Dude gets ZERO pity from me.

None.
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It's amazing how many of you don't understand the law of when and how to use deadly force.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82917880


Obviously the dead guy thought he was being clever too.
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Don't want to get stabbed/ Keep your ass on the other side of the counter. Stop coddling these clowns. Dispatch them to eternity and move on!
I'll agree to be "woke" when they wake up from their stupor.
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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


So, in your opinion, this POS should be free to live out his life victimizing people with no repercussions other than being arrested and let out with a slap on the hand.

Would you have this same opinion if that POS climbed through your bedroom window? Would you tell him to take what he wants? Perhaps make him a sandwich for his trouble?

People like you make me sick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81573832


One was clearly ppremeditated... the other not. Keep that in your butt cheeks you ass clowns defending robber. Robert could go rob a damn bank not lower middle class ppl.
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The minute he jumped the counter it's game on.

If he remained on the other side and was just essentially a shoplifter it would be a different story.
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OP is a f*ggot liberal.
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Those things can be replaced but a life can not.This is a catch 22.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79400501


It was a good life lesson for the robber


His last one
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Re: Store Owner Stabs Thief To Death -- Gonna Need Some Opinions On This One...
There's not enough info in a 5 second clip.

Did they have weapons?

Did they threaten him?

Had they been there before?

Maybe they said they would come back and kill him.
 Quoting: anon_cow


Jumping the counter is threat of violence. Any type of invasion of an occupied space is assumed intent of violence.
 Quoting: Weyoun


If I may, jumping the counter IS violence.

It is a reckless disregard for someone else's private and personal space with ill intention. It cannot be interpreted in any other manner. The degree of their ill intention cannot be known beforehand. So, it is best to assume the worst and defend yourself in any manner available to you, imo.

As for the store owner, NOT GUILTY.
 Quoting: Vasily


That depends on how the judge instructs the jury. Lethal force can only be used when you are in danger. Now would a good defense lawyer get him off? He did jump the counter he also could have had a weapon ..... so maybe

As for the thief's I have no pity.
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I never have sympathy for a thief. If you attempt to rob someone you're taking a chance you might get killed. Don't want to get killed? Don't commit a crime. It's that simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79256365


Yup and shitlibs want that moral code done away with because they don't have morals and want to be free to safely commit whatever crimes they feel like doing.

The worm is turning in this country. Good people have had it with liberals.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

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Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Those things can be replaced but a life can not.This is a catch 22.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79400501


It was a good life lesson for the robber


His last one
 Quoting: Justsayno


I just can't... it's too much.

IM DEAD
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Re: Store Owner Stabs Thief To Death -- Gonna Need Some Opinions On This One...
Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


At first I thought, nice, justice served right there.
But then those flip flops started to bug me.
Wearing flip flops in public is a crime on its own but then stabbing someone as well is probably racist...


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the fuck you don't. that's not stealing. stealing is walking around and slipping an item into your pocket. jumping a counter is strong arm robbery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31573764


These people are thinking in transactional terms, not "threat of life and limb".

They think the shopowner should just take the financial hit... they aren't even considering the implied threat of violence of what they see before their own fucking eyes on the video.

Fucking crazy.

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Re: Store Owner Stabs Thief To Death -- Gonna Need Some Opinions On This One...
Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


Shut the fuck up pussy. You rob you deserve to be tortured and then killed
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The legitimate news stories don't report that the robber was killed. The articles say he was "subdued".
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Those things can be replaced but a life can not.This is a catch 22.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79400501


It was a good life lesson for the robber


His last one
 Quoting: Justsayno


And what a pathetic one it was.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
 Quoting: judahbenhuer
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Those things can be replaced but a life can not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79400501


Some people are no damn good.
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It's amazing how many of you don't understand the law of when and how to use deadly force. Too many of you are simple minded mouth breathers, and should get off the internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82917880


He has to prove he felt his or some one elses life was imminently endangered to use lethal force in self defense.

I would have shot all three
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If someone is not assaulting you with lethal force, I don't believe lethal force should be used.

If I was on a jury, that store keeper would be found guilty.

If the thief was threatening the shop keeper with a deadly weapon then it would be a different verdict.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104801


Wrong, should he have waited until a gun was pointed between his eyes. The aggressor wasn’t fleeing, he deliberately jumped the counter during a felony to confront the shopkeeper. It is perfectly reasonable to believe your life is in imminent danger at that point. The shopkeeper took action to stop the threat. When the robber accomplice said “I’m done, you got me, I’m dead, I’m dead.” The shopkeeper immediately stopped stabbing him and only restrained him at that point. He used the amount of force that was reasonable and necessary to stop the threat. Had both robbers ran and the shopkeeper chased after and stabbed them in the back it would be different. He followed the law. Criminals chose to rob and threaten him. You are for enabling them by tying the shopkeepers hands. You are the problem, not the solution.
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Re: Store Owner Stabs Thief To Death -- Gonna Need Some Opinions On This One...
Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


I'm no way justified in the northeast but I guess we'll see what Nevada laws are.

That's all that matters is the law right?


Otherwise it should be common sense you don't murder someone for stealing.
 Quoting: Mike 83294801

It should be common sense that you don’t steal.
So if you do you should die.
Im glad that guy is dead. And I hope his coward, loser friend dies soon too.
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It was clean and I can't believe y'all are even discussing this.
Clean as a whistle.
Are we supposed to just lay down and die??? Fuck no and we won't
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Re: Store Owner Stabs Thief To Death -- Gonna Need Some Opinions On This One...
There's not enough info in a 5 second clip.

Did they have weapons?

Did they threaten him?

Had they been there before?

Maybe they said they would come back and kill him.
 Quoting: anon_cow


Jumping the counter is threat of violence. Any type of invasion of an occupied space is assumed intent of violence.
 Quoting: Weyoun


If I may, jumping the counter IS violence.

It is a reckless disregard for someone else's private and personal space with ill intention. It cannot be interpreted in any other manner. The degree of their ill intention cannot be known beforehand. So, it is best to assume the worst and defend yourself in any manner available to you, imo.

As for the store owner, NOT GUILTY.
 Quoting: Vasily


That depends on how the judge instructs the jury. Lethal force can only be used when you are in danger. Now would a good defense lawyer get him off? He did jump the counter he also could have had a weapon ..... so maybe

As for the thief's I have no pity.
 Quoting: Mithradates



I'm not super sure the shop owner was fearful for his life on that last stab in the back of the neck.
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The minute he jumped the counter it's game on.

If he remained on the other side and was just essentially a shoplifter it would be a different story.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


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If someone is not assaulting you with lethal force, I don't believe lethal force should be used.

If I was on a jury, that store keeper would be found guilty.

If the thief was threatening the shop keeper with a deadly weapon then it would be a different verdict.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104801


Wrong, should he have waited until a gun was pointed between his eyes. The aggressor wasn’t fleeing, he deliberately jumped the counter during a felony to confront the shopkeeper. It is perfectly reasonable to believe your life is in imminent danger at that point. The shopkeeper took action to stop the threat. When the robber accomplice said “I’m done, you got me, I’m dead, I’m dead.” The shopkeeper immediately stopped stabbing him and only restrained him at that point. He used the amount of force that was reasonable and necessary to stop the threat. Had both robbers ran and the shopkeeper chased after and stabbed them in the back it would be different. He followed the law. Criminals chose to rob and threaten him. You are for enabling them by tying the shopkeepers hands. You are the problem, not the solution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82730318


THIS poster has it exactly right.
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It's amazing how many of you don't understand the law of when and how to use deadly force. Too many of you are simple minded mouth breathers, and should get off the internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82917880


He has to prove he felt his or some one elses life was imminently endangered to use lethal force in self defense.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83968638


Yes, that's the rule, but from what I see online the robber isn't dead.
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Looked good to me, except one of the thieves got away, but still nice to see one pay some consequences.
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That was cold blooded murder of someone basically doing a dine and dash.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83294801


And every time a monkey tries that shit they should be executed on the spot, cleaned up and cremated , don’t even bother to notify the family or cops. Time to end the Black Plague forever

That man is a hero! I would love to shake his hand, fucking badass! Put a notch on that knife handle Rambo
 Quoting: Justsayno


This is the second time I'm cursing you in an hour in a completely different thread. You're a prolific racist aren't you?
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It was clean and I can't believe y'all are even discussing this.
Clean as a whistle.
Are we supposed to just lay down and die??? Fuck no and we won't
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83962797



If you stab someone in the back that's never gonna be a "clean as a whistle" self defense case.





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