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All thug defenders in this thread assumes the store owner must be a mind reader and somehow magically knows the thug is just after merchandise. That is not how self defense works. The perp committed forceful entry of an occupied dwelling and knowingly so. Such action is always assumed to be violent threat and treated as such. The defender is not expected to read the attackers mind and know he was just trying to pay for rocket surgery for his sick grandma.

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If someone is not assaulting you with lethal force, I don't believe lethal force should be used.

If I was on a jury, that store keeper would be found guilty.
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Maybe, but probably not.

You have to get 11 other people to vote guilty with you.

Good luck to you.
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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


I'm no way justified in the northeast but I guess we'll see what Nevada laws are.

That's all that matters is the law right?


Otherwise it should be common sense you don't murder someone for stealing.
 Quoting: Mike 83294801

It should be common sense that you don’t steal.
So if you do you should die.
Im glad that guy is dead. And I hope his coward, loser friend dies soon too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74550715


It's not common sense you don't steal, it's common sense you pay the consequences if caught. The consequences for stealing aren't death.

But like you said you're OK with someone pulling a dine and dash getting stabbed to death so you're a moron
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the fuck you don't. that's not stealing. stealing is walking around and slipping an item into your pocket. jumping a counter is strong arm robbery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31573764


These people are thinking in transactional terms, not "threat of life and limb".

They think the shopowner should just take the financial hit... they aren't even considering the implied threat of violence of what they see before their own fucking eyes on the video.

Fucking crazy.

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That's the mentality of all liberals. Free shit army.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
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Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Antifa fate they do not advertise up front.
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Re: Store Owner Stabs Thief To Death -- Gonna Need Some Opinions On This One...
Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


He guessed he was dead. Good guess.
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All thug defenders in this thread assumes the store owner must be a mind reader and somehow magically knows the thug is just after merchandise. That is not how self defense works. The perp committed forceful entry of an occupied dwelling and knowingly so. Such action is always assumed to be violent threat and treated as such. The defender is not expected to read the attackers mind and know he was just trying to pay for rocket surgery for his sick grandma.
 Quoting: Weyoun


Wrong. If someone points a weapon at you or attacks you then you can shoot them.


If someone grabs a handful of help kitty notebooks you can't jump on their back and stab them to death.
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That was cold blooded murder of someone basically doing a dine and dash.
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And every time a monkey tries that shit they should be executed on the spot, cleaned up and cremated , don’t even bother to notify the family or cops. Time to end the Black Plague forever

That man is a hero! I would love to shake his hand, fucking badass! Put a notch on that knife handle Rambo
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This is the second time I'm cursing you in an hour in a completely different thread. You're a prolific racist aren't you?
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I haven't ever met a white "Supremacist" yet that didn't have a bad case of shit-for-brains
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All thug defenders in this thread assumes the store owner must be a mind reader and somehow magically knows the thug is just after merchandise. That is not how self defense works. The perp committed forceful entry of an occupied dwelling and knowingly so. Such action is always assumed to be violent threat and treated as such. The defender is not expected to read the attackers mind and know he was just trying to pay for rocket surgery for his sick grandma.
 Quoting: Weyoun


Nevada’s legal definition of burglary does not require acts of violence. Burglary is a property offense rather than a violent offense. But penalties do increase if the alleged burglar has a gun or other deadly weapon.
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Jumping the counter is threat of violence. Any type of invasion of an occupied space is assumed intent of violence.
 Quoting: Weyoun


If I may, jumping the counter IS violence.

It is a reckless disregard for someone else's private and personal space with ill intention. It cannot be interpreted in any other manner. The degree of their ill intention cannot be known beforehand. So, it is best to assume the worst and defend yourself in any manner available to you, imo.

As for the store owner, NOT GUILTY.
 Quoting: Vasily


That depends on how the judge instructs the jury. Lethal force can only be used when you are in danger. Now would a good defense lawyer get him off? He did jump the counter he also could have had a weapon ..... so maybe

As for the thief's I have no pity.
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I'm not super sure the shop owner was fearful for his life on that last stab in the back of the neck.
 Quoting: anon_cow


I'm not super sure ,norespect
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So curse any other racists who post in this thread, even if there are 100 of them.
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Re: Store Owner Stabs Thief To Death -- Gonna Need Some Opinions On This One...
Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


I'm no way justified in the northeast but I guess we'll see what Nevada laws are.

That's all that matters is the law right?


Otherwise it should be common sense you don't murder someone for stealing.
 Quoting: Mike 83294801


Bullshit, steal from me and if you are in my home, and are a threat to me and my family. You will not walk out of my home.

PERIOD.


1 less POS walking the earth as far as I'm concerned.
LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

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the fuck you don't. that's not stealing. stealing is walking around and slipping an item into your pocket. jumping a counter is strong arm robbery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31573764


These people are thinking in transactional terms, not "threat of life and limb".

They think the shopowner should just take the financial hit... they aren't even considering the implied threat of violence of what they see before their own fucking eyes on the video.

Fucking crazy.

:stupidburns:
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That's the mentality of all liberals. Free shit army.
 Quoting: thinking...


Define liberal

RETARD
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The consequences for stealing aren't death.

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Apparently they are.
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China man is no random dude. He went straight for the most deadly places in knife fight... base of neck, upper thigh area, finish with base of neck. John Wick stuff right there.

As for the black black soyboiz.... mess with the bull expect the horns. They got what they had coming.
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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


LOL im dead hahahaha


DON'T STEAL
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Where was he dragging him off to?
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All thug defenders in this thread assumes the store owner must be a mind reader and somehow magically knows the thug is just after merchandise. That is not how self defense works. The perp committed forceful entry of an occupied dwelling and knowingly so. Such action is always assumed to be violent threat and treated as such. The defender is not expected to read the attackers mind and know he was just trying to pay for rocket surgery for his sick grandma.
 Quoting: Weyoun


Wrong. If someone points a weapon at you or attacks you then you can shoot them.


If someone grabs a handful of help kitty notebooks you can't jump on their back and stab them to death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83294801


Nope. Forced entry is automatic violent threat. No other conditions are needed.

If the shop owner hesitated even a second longer, he may have been the victim in one of the countless videos of thugs head stomping asians to death. His quick defense prevented himself from being another statistic.
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If someone is not assaulting you with lethal force, I don't believe lethal force should be used.

If I was on a jury, that store keeper would be found guilty.

If the thief was threatening the shop keeper with a deadly weapon then it would be a different verdict.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104801


I'm sorry cupcake but you dont let someone use any kind of force on you before you sit there and contemplate what the right amount of force you are gonna use when it's your turn. Life is not a turn by turn game.
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That was cold blooded murder of someone basically doing a dine and dash.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83294801


He doesn’t know If the robber has gun or what he might do. He’s within his right to do what’s necessary to protect himself. I never worry about being stabbed by a shop owner because I don’t jump behind the counter and rob them.
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The robbers were white, idiots.

The clerk has no idea what these guys were going to do. If they were armed or not doesn't matter much. You every right to defend yourself with deadly force when confronted with a robber. On the streets, at home and your place of business.

I thinks some country made it legal to kill motorcyclist robbers on sight. I think those types of crimes will drop drastically in the coming months.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76803888


Uh, look closer at the video & linked story pics…the robbers are not white…you are using the liberal media perversion of racial definition to imply that anyone not AA is automatically labeled “white”. The counter hoppers hands & shoes speak volumes…this was obviously an Asian gang attack. The store owner didn’t pay protection money and suffered the consequences or he did pay the other gang and knew these novices were out of their lane. The old mafia would’ve just burned the place down.
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interesting theory.
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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


I'm no way justified in the northeast but I guess we'll see what Nevada laws are.

That's all that matters is the law right?


Otherwise it should be common sense you don't murder someone for stealing.
 Quoting: Mike 83294801

It should be common sense that you don’t steal.
So if you do you should die.
Im glad that guy is dead. And I hope his coward, loser friend dies soon too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74550715


It's not common sense you don't steal, it's common sense you pay the consequences if caught. The consequences for stealing aren't death.

But like you said you're OK with someone pulling a dine and dash getting stabbed to death so you're a moron
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I bet you're the type of person that would cut off the water to 40 million people to save minnows and feed another Country's horses.

Maybe you would tell your doctor, "meh, don't cut out ALL of the cancer, I'd feel guilty."

You're the problem with society and your thinking will get you or someone else dead if you are put in a terrible situation.
LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


I'm no way justified in the northeast but I guess we'll see what Nevada laws are.

That's all that matters is the law right?


Otherwise it should be common sense you don't murder someone for stealing.
 Quoting: Mike 83294801


Bullshit, steal from me and if you are in my home, and are a threat to me and my family. You will not walk out of my home.

PERIOD.


1 less POS walking the earth as far as I'm concerned.
 Quoting: Boiling Frog



Home invasion is always a violent crime even if they don't have a weapon. If I understand nevada correctly burglary without a weapon is a property crime. So if these guys didn't have weapons or threatened they had them this might be a problem. I could be wrong. I just read laws in nevada for a couple minutes.
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The robbers were white. The store was filled with junk from China. The clerk committed overkill. One stab is enough. The clerk is a psycho and nobody will ever enter his store again.
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All thug defenders in this thread assumes the store owner must be a mind reader and somehow magically knows the thug is just after merchandise. That is not how self defense works. The perp committed forceful entry of an occupied dwelling and knowingly so. Such action is always assumed to be violent threat and treated as such. The defender is not expected to read the attackers mind and know he was just trying to pay for rocket surgery for his sick grandma.
 Quoting: Weyoun


Nevada’s legal definition of burglary does not require acts of violence. Burglary is a property offense rather than a violent offense. But penalties do increase if the alleged burglar has a gun or other deadly weapon.
 Quoting: anon_cow


Burglary is classified as a violent crime in Texas. even if no one was home.


cruise

It comes under several legal headings, B&E and home invasion is necessary for a burgulary while anemone is not home and
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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


I'm no way justified in the northeast but I guess we'll see what Nevada laws are.

That's all that matters is the law right?


Otherwise it should be common sense you don't murder someone for stealing.
 Quoting: Mike 83294801

It should be common sense that you don’t steal.
So if you do you should die.
Im glad that guy is dead. And I hope his coward, loser friend dies soon too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74550715


It's not common sense you don't steal, it's common sense you pay the consequences if caught. The consequences for stealing aren't death.

But like you said you're OK with someone pulling a dine and dash getting stabbed to death so you're a moron
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83294801


Yeah, it IS common sense to not steal. Common sense entails thinking before you act and weighing the consequences of that action. The robber didn't just steal a candy bar from a shelf. He jumped the counter which was a threat to the bodily safety of the clerk. Liberals don't have common because they don't believe in personal accountability or morals. Obviously, that's you.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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the fuck you don't. that's not stealing. stealing is walking around and slipping an item into your pocket. jumping a counter is strong arm robbery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31573764


These people are thinking in transactional terms, not "threat of life and limb".

They think the shopowner should just take the financial hit... they aren't even considering the implied threat of violence of what they see before their own fucking eyes on the video.

Fucking crazy.

stupidburns
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That's the mentality of all liberals. Free shit army.
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Define liberal

RETARD
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Weak people that justify stealing.
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The robbers were white. The store was filled with junk from China. The clerk committed overkill. One stab is enough. The clerk is a psycho and nobody will ever enter his store again.
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He probably won't miss you

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Where was he dragging him off to?
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Out of the store, I think.
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Where was he dragging him off to?
 Quoting: RestoreTheAnger


He was trying to show his buddy what happens when your a dumbass.





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