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Petraeus Admits the Surge Has Failed!

 
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Petraeus Admits the Surge Has Failed

Posted by Blue Texan, Firedoglake at 11:13 AM on March 14, 2008.



Did you get that? Failed. Post Tools



Proconsul Petraeus, Who We Must Never Question, on the Bush/McCain Surge:

Iraqi leaders have failed to take advantage of a reduction in violence to make adequate progress toward resolving their political differences, Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said Thursday.



Did you get that? Failed.



Petraeus, who is preparing to testify to Congress next month on the Iraq war, said in an interview that "no one" in the U.S. and Iraqi governments "feels that there has been sufficient progress by any means in the area of national reconciliation," or in the provision of basic public services.
No one, except of course, for St. McCain and the war cheerleaders.



Just as a reminder, here's Bush 14 months ago:

I've made it clear to the Prime Minister and Iraq's other leaders that America's commitment is not open-ended. If the Iraqi government does not follow through on its promises, it will lose the support of the American people -- and it will lose the support of the Iraqi people. Now is the time to act.


Since that speech, 1034 Americans have been killed in Iraq.
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Read it. it says the "IRAQI LEADERS" failed to take advantage of the sucess of the "Surge" to get shit done.
The military didn't fail in it's mission to curb the violence.
Iraq and the Iraqi people are failing themselves.
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The republican warmongers and brainless media always fail to mention that any reduction in violence was due to the ceasefire called by Shia leader Sadr, and not because of any fucking surge.
The next surge will be the one towards the the airplanes that the troops fly home on.
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The republican warmongers and brainless media always fail to mention that any reduction in violence was due to the ceasefire called by Shia leader Sadr, and not because of any fucking surge.
The next surge will be the one towards the the airplanes that the troops fly home on.
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Yep!
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Read it. it says the "IRAQI LEADERS" failed to take advantage of the sucess of the "Surge" to get shit done.
The military didn't fail in it's mission to curb the violence.
Iraq and the Iraqi people are failing themselves.
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Unfortunately, it doesn't matter whose failure it is, the bottom line is it is a failure of U.S. policy in Iraq. This war was never about military boots on the ground, it is about getting people who have never gotten along to get together and build a nation together, this is something that the U.S. is much more eager to accomplish than the Iraqi's themselves. So the surge worked in terms of squelching violence for a period of time but with no political advances being made toward forging the nation. What is the timeframe before al-Sadr and his army have had enough and ratchet up the violence again?
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Unfortunately, it doesn't matter whose failure it is, the bottom line is it is a failure of U.S. policy in Iraq. This war was never about military boots on the ground, it is about getting people who have never gotten along to get together and build a nation together, this is something that the U.S. is much more eager to accomplish than the Iraqi's themselves. So the surge worked in terms of squelching violence for a period of time but with no political advances being made toward forging the nation. What is the timeframe before al-Sadr and his army have had enough and ratchet up the violence again?
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You must still believe in Bush's lies.
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The surge has forced the war to safer havens for Al-CIAda. They have moved the front to Pakistan. This war was about OIL when the front was in Iraq. But the focus has changed and now this war is about Pakistan's NUKES. These NUKES are now the prize, and are in grave danger of being set into a free-for-all.

The irony is that Iraq didn't have any WMD, but Pakistan does, and their NUKES are about to be set free and there's probably little our Idiot-in-chief can do about it.

The war on Iraq will go down as THE WORST STRATEGIC BLUNDER ANYONE HAS EVER MADE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!
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Failure or success....pure Orwellian semantical games. Sheesh!

...like the economy, the point(of the war) was to induce chaos
and fashion order out of it. See?
And to the point of them (Sunni- Shia- or Moslem-Hindu (in another setting) getting along... before the RIAA's MI6 began
destabilising middle eastern peoples for their future energy
agenda, these people (like all others) got along, mostly, intermarrying, working for each other, ect.

Face it; there has never been until very recently, the ability
to manipulate perception, which is what then creates 'reality'
(en masse)... this ability to 'globally' affect consciousness
will attempt to be harnessed. Thus, creating rifts betwixt
groups of all sizes, at all levels is part and parcel of the new world order agenda. It is not even a secret, so don't react to the semantical impact of the aforementioned. It is
discussed in meetings of business and political leaders and
think tanks all the time.

In the case of the economy- why not crush a currency, group
of business concerns, a people even- when their usefulness has
been realized and outlived?
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The surge worked just like the big vote did,...

Remember that???
Purple thumbs and such.




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A REAL SIMPLE SOLUTION, KILL EVERYONE WHO IS AN IMPEDIMENT TO RECONCILIATION.

A violent society seeking only violent solutions can only be resolved with violence!
Captain Marjorie, US Army
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A REAL SIMPLE SOLUTION, KILL EVERYONE WHO IS AN IMPEDIMENT TO RECONCILIATION.

A violent society seeking only violent solutions can only be resolved with violence!
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as It always has been.

nothing the slaves can do about it .
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Petraeus BetrayedUs lol it was supose to fail...like Mccain said we will be their for 100 years.Or until the oil drys up lol personaly,i think as soon as bushtard divides jerusalem an it becomes official as in signed,sealed an delivered.it will be doom city for the whole world.USA/UN/EU/Russia all doomed lol
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"...Proconsul Petraeus, Who We Must Never Question..."
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LOL, right
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A REAL SIMPLE SOLUTION, KILL EVERYONE WHO IS AN IMPEDIMENT TO RECONCILIATION.

A violent society seeking only violent solutions can only be resolved with violence!
 Quoting: Monadnock

shitstream
this is not the truth.
YOU are a slave to the society of violence that you subscribe to - not i nor many others.
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hey it got pinned!! i figured it'd just go down the drain!! ha!
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Read it. it says the "IRAQI LEADERS" failed to take advantage of the sucess of the "Surge" to get shit done.
The military didn't fail in it's mission to curb the violence.
Iraq and the Iraqi people are failing themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 352419

At least thats what Petraeus says. Fact is it failed. Why it failed is the real question.
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Maybe almighty omniscient Gen.Betrayus should be punished for such a monstrous failure? We start with him and work our way up
Cui Bono?
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A REAL SIMPLE SOLUTION, KILL EVERYONE WHO IS AN IMPEDIMENT TO RECONCILIATION.

A violent society seeking only violent solutions can only be resolved with violence!
 Quoting: Monadnock


I'm surprised Bush, Cheney and the other New World Order psychopaths haven't nuked them already. But of course they're saving those nukes for Iran.

abomb
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Read it. it says the "IRAQI LEADERS" failed to take advantage of the sucess of the "Surge" to get shit done.
The military didn't fail in it's mission to curb the violence.
Iraq and the Iraqi people are failing themselves.

At least thats what Petraeus says. Fact is it failed. Why it failed is the real question.
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Because the war was designed to be a failure from the get go.
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Read it. it says the "IRAQI LEADERS" failed to take advantage of the sucess of the "Surge" to get shit done.
The military didn't fail in it's mission to curb the violence.
Iraq and the Iraqi people are failing themselves.



Unfortunately, it doesn't matter whose failure it is, the bottom line is it is a failure of U.S. policy in Iraq. This war was never about military boots on the ground, it is about getting people who have never gotten along to get together and build a nation together, this is something that the U.S. is much more eager to accomplish than the Iraqi's themselves. So the surge worked in terms of squelching violence for a period of time but with no political advances being made toward forging the nation. What is the timeframe before al-Sadr and his army have had enough and ratchet up the violence again?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 356757


lmao
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Unfortunately, it doesn't matter whose failure it is, the bottom line is it is a failure of U.S. policy in Iraq. This war was never about military boots on the ground, it is about getting people who have never gotten along to get together and build a nation together, this is something that the U.S. is much more eager to accomplish than the Iraqi's themselves. So the surge worked in terms of squelching violence for a period of time but with no political advances being made toward forging the nation. What is the timeframe before al-Sadr and his army have had enough and ratchet up the violence again?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 356757

iamwith The surge has worked? lol


It is hard to believe there are people this stupid in the world. Yet occasionally one of you make a post like this to remind me.


It also surprises me a little that General Betrayus took his lips off George Bush's ass long enough to say anything.
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Why should it not fail?

Perpetual war and chaos in Iraq(or anywhere for that matter) means perpetual profits and control by the elitist.
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shocking !

NOT
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This is a prime example why most GLP patrons should stay away from normal people:

Iraqi leaders have failed to take advantage of a reduction in violence to make adequate progress toward resolving their political differences, Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said Thursday.



Did you get that? Failed.


Your reading comprehension is worthless as tits on a bull...

What he said is that the Iraqis FAILED to "take advantage of a reduction in violence"...

rolleyes
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This is a prime example why most GLP patrons should stay away from normal people:

Iraqi leaders have failed to take advantage of a reduction in violence to make adequate progress toward resolving their political differences, Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said Thursday.



Did you get that? Failed.


Your reading comprehension is worthless as tits on a bull...

What he said is that the Iraqis FAILED to "take advantage of a reduction in violence"...

rolleyes
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That also means the surge failed you dipshit. They were hedging this surge to yield success. And they failed fuckstick. And blood of innocent people and American soldiers are on the hands of people of your thinking.
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Petraeus Admits the Surge Has Failed

Posted by Blue Texan, Firedoglake at 11:13 AM on March 14, 2008.



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What a dumbass! The surge hasn't failed...the Iraqi government has failed to take advantage of the surge which has worked perfectly to quell the violence. Did you even read the article you posted?
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Your reading comprehension is worthless as tits on a bull...

What he said is that the Iraqis FAILED to "take advantage of a reduction in violence"...

rolleyes


That also means the surge failed you dipshit. They were hedging this surge to yield success. And they failed fuckstick. And blood of innocent people and American soldiers are on the hands of people of your thinking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 392450



No agenda boy, what it means is that you are one of those tards that insists on interpreting "a drop in violence" as "failure" of the surge.

Petraeus clearly stated his position that the Iraqis failed to take advantage of what we gave them.

Stop trying to twist his words for your agenda.
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Bring the Troops home. They have done their job Admirably and with Full Honor. The War is over, we won, bring our children/warriors home.
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in fact bring them home while we still can afford to.
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Your reading comprehension is worthless as tits on a bull...

What he said is that the Iraqis FAILED to "take advantage of a reduction in violence"...

rolleyes


That also means the surge failed you dipshit. They were hedging this surge to yield success. And they failed fuckstick. And blood of innocent people and American soldiers are on the hands of people of your thinking.



No agenda boy, what it means is that you are one of those tards that insists on interpreting "a drop in violence" as "failure" of the surge.

Petraeus clearly stated his position that the Iraqis failed to take advantage of what we gave them.

Stop trying to twist his words for your agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 231648


So please tell me that you thought this surge was going to solve the problem in Iraq. Tell me motherfucker how stupid you really are. What the fuck are you trying to say?? Nothing!!! You have nothing to fucking say. Great, the surge slowed the violence. Well, no fucking shit. There was barely anybody left in Iraq. Until you and our government can admit the "real" reason of invading Iraq, then there can never be a "real" outcome.





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