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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79316187 Canada 08/11/2022 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Leave me a private message here and I will respond ! [link to groups.google.com (secure)] I know people who have had heart attacks as a result of the vax, but how do we prove the connection? |
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FivelCubed (OP) User ID: 77710388 United States 08/11/2022 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Leave me a private message here and I will respond ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79316187 [link to groups.google.com (secure)] I know people who have had heart attacks as a result of the vax, but how do we prove the connection? Sorry, I'm not clicking that. You're anonymous on here, so you shouldn't have to worry about privacy. I don't want to have to worry about my privacy either. Also, I don't want money from any GLPers. I'll either just use my own or figure out how to get the psycho pro-vaxxers to fund their own red-pilling. |
Dr. Feelgood User ID: 83977570 United States 08/11/2022 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think your heart is in the right place but I don't think the bait and switch approach would be well received. People often prefer the convenient comforting lie to the paradigm shattering truth Last Edited by Dr. Feelgood on 08/11/2022 03:44 PM Check out this thread for important statistics which have showed (since early summer 2021) that Covid “Vaccine” is more likely to KILL YOU than save you: Thread: COVID JAB statistically more likely to KILL YOU per official CDC DATA. You’re 3.87x more likely to die from the Pfizer vax than save your life!! |
FivelCubed (OP) User ID: 77710388 United States 08/11/2022 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think your heart is in the right place but I don't think the bait and switch approach would be well received. Quoting: Dr. Feelgood People often prefer the convenient comforting lie to the paradigm shattering truth I'm willing to shatter their paradigms if it will save lives. How else can I get these people to even glance at the truth? |
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FivelCubed (OP) User ID: 77710388 United States 08/11/2022 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check out your local library. You can usually get a space and equipment to use for free or very little. They may also provide leads and advertising. Leftists love librarys. Maybe hire a drag queen to present material. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83991378 Great idea. Thanks! I was also thinking about asking for space at a local school or university. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83991378 United States 08/11/2022 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make up hand a handbill outlining the presentation. Something like "Combat disinformation and save lives." Cold call local buisness to purchase ad space on the program. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83991378 I like that idea. Thanks! Yessir! I like your idea. I might work on something similar in my area. I have worked on fundraising many times for little local events and you would be surprised hoy many business card size ads some will buy for $50. Offer a discounted rate for 1/4 page ads. Printing is pretty cheap and you might even find a printer to cut you a break if you can find one sympathetic to the cause. You dont need full color slick paper either. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82852459 United States 08/11/2022 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honest question: why do you believe they can be reasoned with? My own family, who knows my scientific background won't listen to me. They ask me OTHER questions all the time. This? Nope! It is a cult: the Branch Covidians. I believe, sadly, they are beyond help. |
FivelCubed (OP) User ID: 77710388 United States 08/11/2022 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honest question: why do you believe they can be reasoned with? My own family, who knows my scientific background won't listen to me. They ask me OTHER questions all the time. This? Nope! It is a cult: the Branch Covidians. I believe, sadly, they are beyond help. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82852459 A small percentage of them, at least, are going to change their views. The post-viewing discussions should give me an idea how successful the tactic will be for future viewings. |
The Oracle's Cookie User ID: 83985909 United States 08/11/2022 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm planning on dishing out my own cash to educators, nurses and others, for them to attend a viewing of an anti-vax documentary. I will tell them, truthfully, that the reasoning behind having them watch the documentary is to prepare them for encounters with conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers. They need to understand where the claims are coming from and what the claims entail, in order to successfully refute or debate the CTs and anti-vaxxers. I think I'll have a post-viewing group discussion with them to hash out the best ways to counter the claims made in the documentary and how to deal with potential encounters of CTs/anti-vaxxers. My hope is that the documentary will cause them to actually become CTs and anti-vaxxers, so this post-viewing discussion will make it apparent to those who remain pro-vaxxers are slipping into a minority and have no good, logical ways to counter the anti-vax claims. Quoting: FivelCubed What I need from y'all is: 1. The best anti-vax documentary/video to present to them, in order to red pill them guerilla-style. 2. Ideas on how to conduct these viewings and discussions 3. What to NOT do in order to avoid failure and lawsuits 4. Other ways of sourcing finances for these viewings, since I'll basically be bribing people to attend. I don't have that much money. Maybe I can convince a city council or some other entity to fund me, in order to prepare educators and nurses for encounters with CTs? 5. Any other suggestions or ideas. Thanks in advance. -Fivel What a clever idea...You will actually ASK AT THE END OF THE DOCUMENTARY VIEWING..."Have any of you people who came in here PRO-VACCINE...changed your minds now?" (Because they'd be really pissed to know they were SET UP that way.) But...it is WORTH THE RISK. Oh, save alittle extra dough to hire your own PRIVATE SECURITY GUARD to stand up by the video screen, just to let everyone know that there won't be any "funny business!" I'd also have copies of Kent Heckenlively's "Plague" and "Plague of Corruption" (I'm deliberately leaving out Dr. Judy's name as I think it is a banned word...Judy is co-author.) These 2 books will literally blow your mind. I am reading them for the 2nd time through--totally explains my childhood problem with ME/CFS (Chronic Fatigue) which is fully covered as a "vaccine injury" and well documented. I will pm you my documentary choices link...I don't think the GLP wordprocessor allow some of those videos to be posted--not sure though. GREAT PLAN...Don't get beat up!! The Oracle's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116 Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: UPdated Pg.2: Davinci Equinox Code 3:"What the EQUINOX SHADOW Knows"--Equinox Triggers and Solar Micro-Nova. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81830867 08/11/2022 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think they have been already briefed about *not partecipate in any confrontation with conspiracy theorist* there was the documents floating around past week btw thesw people will never comply to look into something that will basically frame them as murders. it's a long gone situation all you can do now is celebrate and giving resonance to their sickness and death. it is more powerfull than anything else |
Wobblin Goblin User ID: 80476903 United States 08/11/2022 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm planning on dishing out my own cash to educators, nurses and others, for them to attend a viewing of an anti-vax documentary. I will tell them, truthfully, that the reasoning behind having them watch the documentary is to prepare them for encounters with conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers. They need to understand where the claims are coming from and what the claims entail, in order to successfully refute or debate the CTs and anti-vaxxers. I think I'll have a post-viewing group discussion with them to hash out the best ways to counter the claims made in the documentary and how to deal with potential encounters of CTs/anti-vaxxers. My hope is that the documentary will cause them to actually become CTs and anti-vaxxers, so this post-viewing discussion will make it apparent to those who remain pro-vaxxers are slipping into a minority and have no good, logical ways to counter the anti-vax claims. Quoting: FivelCubed What I need from y'all is: 1. The best anti-vax documentary/video to present to them, in order to red pill them guerilla-style. 2. Ideas on how to conduct these viewings and discussions 3. What to NOT do in order to avoid failure and lawsuits 4. Other ways of sourcing finances for these viewings, since I'll basically be bribing people to attend. I don't have that much money. Maybe I can convince a city council or some other entity to fund me, in order to prepare educators and nurses for encounters with CTs? 5. Any other suggestions or ideas. Thanks in advance. -Fivel This should do it. [link to librti.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79146033 United States 08/11/2022 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm planning on dishing out my own cash to educators, nurses and others, for them to attend a viewing of an anti-vax documentary. I will tell them, truthfully, that the reasoning behind having them watch the documentary is to prepare them for encounters with conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers. They need to understand where the claims are coming from and what the claims entail, in order to successfully refute or debate the CTs and anti-vaxxers. I think I'll have a post-viewing group discussion with them to hash out the best ways to counter the claims made in the documentary and how to deal with potential encounters of CTs/anti-vaxxers. My hope is that the documentary will cause them to actually become CTs and anti-vaxxers, so this post-viewing discussion will make it apparent to those who remain pro-vaxxers are slipping into a minority and have no good, logical ways to counter the anti-vax claims. Quoting: FivelCubed What I need from y'all is: 1. The best anti-vax documentary/video to present to them, in order to red pill them guerilla-style. 2. Ideas on how to conduct these viewings and discussions 3. What to NOT do in order to avoid failure and lawsuits 4. Other ways of sourcing finances for these viewings, since I'll basically be bribing people to attend. I don't have that much money. Maybe I can convince a city council or some other entity to fund me, in order to prepare educators and nurses for encounters with CTs? 5. Any other suggestions or ideas. Thanks in advance. -Fivel I would suggest making your own video or recruiting some talented people to help. If you’re serious about doing this it starts with the material you use. Don’t just pick some video off the web. I would use Government information from all different countries. There is some severely damning evidence out there that comes directly from governments own studies. For instance the recent UK study that shows 1 in 246 people die after the jab. I save a lot of these government studies and have used it with friends and family who are pro jab. They aren’t receptive to Dr’s Ardis, Malone, Yeadon, etc. They will put up a wall instantly and label it conspiracy theory. The way to get past their defenses is to use government data and be clear on who published it and when and try to back it up with secondary studies. You can find a lot of info from Dr’s like David Martin, Peter McCullough and Ryan Cole but I would just use them to help source your info. As far as structuring your system, go to professionals for ideas. Americas Frontline Doctors offers free help. Robert Kennedy’s group possibly. They may be able to guide you with funding but whoever funds you will probably have their name in your video somewhere so be careful with that. Maybe look into a non profit and seek donations. |
FivelCubed (OP) User ID: 77710388 United States 08/11/2022 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honest question: why do you believe they can be reasoned with? My own family, who knows my scientific background won't listen to me. They ask me OTHER questions all the time. This? Nope! It is a cult: the Branch Covidians. I believe, sadly, they are beyond help. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82852459 A small percentage of them, at least, are going to change their views. The post-viewing discussions should give me an idea how successful the tactic will be for future viewings. Btw, in the intro and post-viewing discussions, I will drive home the fact that this is to defeat the anti-vaxxer claims. Which is true. If they can successfully refute anything that I currently believe, then that truly helps me and everyone else. I don't want to believe things that are untrue, so please correct me if I am wrong. Their rabid pro-vax stances will keep them in the room. They want to claim victory over the anti-vaxxers they hate so much. They want to feel superior. I'll just be the moderator for them to hash out best refutations of this or that anti-vaxxer claim that they saw in the anti-vax video. They'll all be focused on that goal together. I'll just remain silent in the group-think portion, except to bring up claims that they should focus on refuting. I think it will work. |
FivelCubed (OP) User ID: 77710388 United States 08/11/2022 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm planning on dishing out my own cash to educators, nurses and others, for them to attend a viewing of an anti-vax documentary. I will tell them, truthfully, that the reasoning behind having them watch the documentary is to prepare them for encounters with conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers. They need to understand where the claims are coming from and what the claims entail, in order to successfully refute or debate the CTs and anti-vaxxers. I think I'll have a post-viewing group discussion with them to hash out the best ways to counter the claims made in the documentary and how to deal with potential encounters of CTs/anti-vaxxers. My hope is that the documentary will cause them to actually become CTs and anti-vaxxers, so this post-viewing discussion will make it apparent to those who remain pro-vaxxers are slipping into a minority and have no good, logical ways to counter the anti-vax claims. Quoting: FivelCubed What I need from y'all is: 1. The best anti-vax documentary/video to present to them, in order to red pill them guerilla-style. 2. Ideas on how to conduct these viewings and discussions 3. What to NOT do in order to avoid failure and lawsuits 4. Other ways of sourcing finances for these viewings, since I'll basically be bribing people to attend. I don't have that much money. Maybe I can convince a city council or some other entity to fund me, in order to prepare educators and nurses for encounters with CTs? 5. Any other suggestions or ideas. Thanks in advance. -Fivel I would suggest making your own video or recruiting some talented people to help. If you’re serious about doing this it starts with the material you use. Don’t just pick some video off the web. I would use Government information from all different countries. There is some severely damning evidence out there that comes directly from governments own studies. For instance the recent UK study that shows 1 in 246 people die after the jab. I save a lot of these government studies and have used it with friends and family who are pro jab. They aren’t receptive to Dr’s Ardis, Malone, Yeadon, etc. They will put up a wall instantly and label it conspiracy theory. The way to get past their defenses is to use government data and be clear on who published it and when and try to back it up with secondary studies. You can find a lot of info from Dr’s like David Martin, Peter McCullough and Ryan Cole but I would just use them to help source your info. As far as structuring your system, go to professionals for ideas. Americas Frontline Doctors offers free help. Robert Kennedy’s group possibly. They may be able to guide you with funding but whoever funds you will probably have their name in your video somewhere so be careful with that. Maybe look into a non profit and seek donations. Thanks for the idea, but I think making my own eye-opener, anti-vax video would counter the idea that I'm there to help show them where anti-vaxxer claims are coming from. I suppose I could clip together a bunch of snippets from existing videos, but I think it's a better idea to let original videos speak for themselves. Great idea to reach out to the Frontline doctors. Not sure whether that will come back to bite me. I'm sure their comes are heavily monitored by the glowies. I don't want any glowies showing up to a viewing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79721248 United States 08/11/2022 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Leave me a private message here and I will respond ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79316187 [link to groups.google.com (secure)] I know people who have had heart attacks as a result of the vax, but how do we prove the connection? (1) IT CHANGES DNA. DNA FROM BEFORE VAXX DNA FROM AFTER GET A GENETIC SCIENTIST TO PROVE. ONCE DNA IS CHANGED, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. (2) TALK TO FLCCC - READ ALL IN THE I-RECOVER POST VACCINATION DOCUMENTS. THERE IS A 39 PAGE DOCUMENT WITH FOOTNOTES TO TONS OF SCIENTISTS RESEARCHING VAERS. REACH OUT TO THEM, IF YOU'RE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THIS. WHICH I DON'T THINK YOU ARE, OR ELSE YOU WOULD HAVE ALREADY GONE THERE INSTEAD OF HERE. |
FivelCubed (OP) User ID: 77710388 United States 08/11/2022 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think they have been already briefed about *not partecipate in any confrontation with conspiracy theorist* Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81830867 there was the documents floating around past week btw thesw people will never comply to look into something that will basically frame them as murders. it's a long gone situation all you can do now is celebrate and giving resonance to their sickness and death. it is more powerfull than anything else True, but I think that advice can be ignored for these people since they are "leaders" and people who are more likely to be unable to avoid encountering anti-vax people and claims. Teachers have the parents to worry about. Nurses have patients to worry about. Cops (if I go that direction) have the public at large to worry about. The "leaders" need to be prepared for future interactions, so they should become informed and come up with ways to win in these debates or confrontations with anti-vaxxers. |
FivelCubed (OP) User ID: 77710388 United States 08/11/2022 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Leave me a private message here and I will respond ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79316187 [link to groups.google.com (secure)] I know people who have had heart attacks as a result of the vax, but how do we prove the connection? (1) IT CHANGES DNA. DNA FROM BEFORE VAXX DNA FROM AFTER GET A GENETIC SCIENTIST TO PROVE. ONCE DNA IS CHANGED, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. (2) TALK TO FLCCC - READ ALL IN THE I-RECOVER POST VACCINATION DOCUMENTS. THERE IS A 39 PAGE DOCUMENT WITH FOOTNOTES TO TONS OF SCIENTISTS RESEARCHING VAERS. REACH OUT TO THEM, IF YOU'RE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THIS. WHICH I DON'T THINK YOU ARE, OR ELSE YOU WOULD HAVE ALREADY GONE THERE INSTEAD OF HERE. Who are you responding to? Did you read the OP? |
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