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NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation

 
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NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
A study published Monday in the journal Nature projects that a full-scale nuclear conflict between the United States and Russia would spark a catastrophic global famine, with potentially as many as five billion people dying of starvation in the years immediately after the war's conclusion.

Led by climate scientists at Rutgers University, the study examines six nuclear war scenarios: a conflagration involving the U.S., its allies, and Russia and five smaller-scale nuclear conflicts between India and Pakistan.

While a nuclear war between the U.S. and Russia—the owners of roughly 90% of the global supply of atomic warheads—would have the most devastating consequences from a hunger standpoint, a localized India-Pakistan war would also reverberate worldwide, resulting in a 7% decline in global average caloric production and possibly two billion deaths from lack of food.

A direct U.S.-Russia conflict, the risk of which is believed to be higher today than at any point since the Cold War, would slash global average caloric production by 90% around four years after the nuclear exchange, the new study estimates.

"The data tell us one thing: We must prevent a nuclear war from ever happening," said Alan Robock, distinguished professor of climate science in the Department of Environmental Sciences at Rutgers and a co-author of the new study.

"A large percent of the people will be starving," Lili Xia, the study's lead author, told Nature. "It's really bad.”

To reach their conclusions, the researchers attempted to calculate the amount of sun-blocking atmospheric soot that a nuclear war could cause, potentially resulting in crop failures on a horrifying scale.

"In a nuclear war, bombs targeted on cities and industrial areas would start firestorms, injecting large amounts of soot into the upper atmosphere, which would spread globally and rapidly cool the planet," the study notes. "Such soot loadings would cause decadal disruptions in Earth's climate, which would impact food production systems on land and in the oceans."


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Re: NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
About time

5 billion starved to death is a good start
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Re: NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
The Earth will be just fine with 5 billion less people.
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Re: NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
The Earth will be just fine with 5 billion less people.
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Even if you and everyone you know die a painful death from starvation as a result?

If 5 billion people starve to death out of our current population of 7.7 billion, you have a 65% chance of that.

But forget logic...you're just sick wishing for 5 billion people to starve to death.
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Stop The Fear Porn
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Re: NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
More fear porn.

Yeah, did you know if the sun exploded it would kill us all?

And if an actual plague hit the world 50-75% of the world's population would die?

Disgusting fear porn for Zoomers who are actually under the impression the world didn't exist before they got here.

Making new money with old rope. Watch Threads or The Day After. This is old news by like sixty years.
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Re: NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
already headed there due to the policies from the left against farmers !!!!
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Re: NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
if THEY want it to happen, it will happen
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Re: NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
More fear porn.

Yeah, did you know if the sun exploded it would kill us all?

And if an actual plague hit the world 50-75% of the world's population would die?

Disgusting fear porn for Zoomers who are actually under the impression the world didn't exist before they got here.

Making new money with old rope. Watch Threads or The Day After. This is old news by like sixty years.
 Quoting: Stop The Fear Porn 79677917


You do know that we are due for one, yes? Check Suspicious Observers over on YT
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Propaganda, you people are still soooo bad at it....jerkitlolsign
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Re: NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
More fear porn.

Yeah, did you know if the sun exploded it would kill us all?

And if an actual plague hit the world 50-75% of the world's population would die?

Disgusting fear porn for Zoomers who are actually under the impression the world didn't exist before they got here.

Making new money with old rope. Watch Threads or The Day After. This is old news by like sixty years.
 Quoting: Stop The Fear Porn 79677917


You do know that we are due for one, yes? Check Suspicious Observers over on YT
 Quoting: dschis1000



Cool story bro.

Overdue for what? The sun exploding? A plague? Get outta here. Gotta keep that fear adrenaline pumping 24/7.
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Re: NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
WOW an entire smorgasbord of DOOM!!

5a . 5a . 5a

The entire concept of a "Nuclear Winter is WAY overblown. 2 years and that nuclear winter dynamic will be gone since most of the debris from nuclear explosions will NOT go super high so the airborne debris will precipitate out very quickly unlike Tambora.

The BIGGER issue, and one that virtually none of the academics talk about, is the fact that modern agriculture RELIES almost entirely on the utilization of Petroleum Products for producing most of our food.

For more advanced countries it will be because petroleum products will be UNAVAILABLE to fuel the tractors and machines needed to plant, harvest, and propane and natural gas being unavailable to dry the harvested grains and other food items once they are actually harvested. In addition what is planted won't be able to be fertilized and chemical bug control will be unavailable severely reducing the yields of the fields that are planted.

For third world countries they will also lack fuel for mechanized agriculture and will also lack modern fertilizers and bug control chemicals so yields will plummet. As an example look at the situation in Sri Lanka right now with it's banning of modern fertilizers and bug control chemicals a year or so ago. A country that ALWAYS had an agricultural surplus is now short of food, and not by just a little.

Famine will hit both the US and Europe BIG TIME with the collapse of mechanized agriculture in addition to EVERY country that imports food. The only reason we and Europe generate large agricultural surpluses is because of our and their highly mechanized agriculture.

Look at Puerto Rico ... 3.2 million ... on an island that has an ability to feed less than a million (and that is with modern fuel and chemical imputs)

Check out Haiti ... 11.6 MILLION people ... and an ability of their part of their island to feed maybe 2 million.

Zimbabwe
Egypt (and ALL of northern Africa)
Saudi Arabia, and the other desert kingdoms
Well you get the picture ...
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Re: NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
More fear porn.

Yeah, did you know if the sun exploded it would kill us all?

And if an actual plague hit the world 50-75% of the world's population would die?

Disgusting fear porn for Zoomers who are actually under the impression the world didn't exist before they got here.

Making new money with old rope. Watch Threads or The Day After. This is old news by like sixty years.
 Quoting: Stop The Fear Porn 79677917


You do know that we are due for one, yes? Check Suspicious Observers over on YT
 Quoting: dschis1000



Cool story bro.

Overdue for what? The sun exploding? A plague? Get outta here. Gotta keep that fear adrenaline pumping 24/7.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79677917



Micronova

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Re: NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
More fear porn.

Yeah, did you know if the sun exploded it would kill us all?

And if an actual plague hit the world 50-75% of the world's population would die?

Disgusting fear porn for Zoomers who are actually under the impression the world didn't exist before they got here.

Making new money with old rope. Watch Threads or The Day After. This is old news by like sixty years.
 Quoting: Stop The Fear Porn 79677917


How dare these silly zoomers not want to die in a nuclear war.
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Re: NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
This is already happening. This 'fear nuclear war' angle is simply to redirect people into the arms of those that are putting the dying herd out of their misery.

Consider the vaccines and other methods short of nuclear war as a mercy killing.
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Re: NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
Another Biden term will push 300M Americans to that point.
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Re: NEW STUDY: A US-Russia nuclear war could push five billion people into starvation
They do not teach kids anymore? A moderate nuke exchange = end of humanity.
Just the unattended nuke plants melting down will be enough to poison the earth completely.

You cannot attend a radiate or destroyed nuke plant. They will melt down.

Last Edited by Xeven on 08/15/2022 08:32 PM
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