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Discussion on how smart people / people with high IQ get brainwashed

 
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free sausage rolls?

I mean that is the only conceivable way that UK clowns would follow the advice of a foreign countries failing murderous health care system.
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Just because someone is successful or seems smart, doesn’t mean they have a high IQ. They did an interesting IQ study in Britain where they tested rocket scientists and brain surgeons, among others. Guess what they discovered? Rocket scientists and brain surgeons don’t have higher IQs than other intelligent people. In fact, they even score lower in some metrics. Of course they have an aptitude for science and an good work ethic, but they do not have exceptional IQs. Take it for what it’s worth. I found the study interesting and somewhat validating of my observations. People you think are highly intelligent can be just as delusional as anyone else, because they really aren’t more intelligent. Sorry I can’t link or cite to the study - I heard it described on a podcast.
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I read something interesting recently which actually aligns with my personal experiences which is that there seems to be a peak and a point of diminishing returns when you compare IQ and "success" as typically measured by our ass backwards hot mess of a society.


A post on Quora was discussing difference between 120ish IQ individuals and 140+ IQ people.

That post noted that the 120ish IQ group was often wildly successful, they are smart, smart enough to excell but not so smart that they have issues...

Unlike the 140+ IQ group, who tend to have issues relating in certain social contexts, find mundane small talk boring, and aren't satisfied/engaged by things like team sports and bipolar politics that capture the attention of the masses.


This falls in line with my experiences as well.


I remember within the gifted and talented group I mentioned that there were quite a few "teachers pet" types and then another group much more interested in music, arts, or creative endeavors. I could tell who the smartest were, who excelled the farthest in math, reasoning, etc and we were not the best students in a traditional sense, we were most likely to skip homework, get sent to the principle, etc.


As adults the conformist types out of the GT program are all wildly successful. Out of my elementary gifted class of 9, of the people I am in touch with, one is in research and development for Pfizer, and 2-3 are doctors (1 psychiatrist, who inspired this thread, another is an infectious disease specialist and the 3rd I lost contact with but she went to Princeton and I think she became a Dr or a lawyer, she was a diligent and obedient those, whatever she does I'm sure she makes crazy money and lives in a huge house)


I bet I could pick with a high degree of accuracy who took the jab of that group even though I haven't seen most of them in 30 years, it was crystal clear who the conformists we're and who the free thinkers were.


I would also bet that if everyone in that group was subject to an IQ test and then those results compared to income there would be a negative correlation. Also if that same IQ test was compared to who did the most drugs, who took the most hallucinogens, etc, that the highest IQ group would have done way more acid in late teens/college age, for whatever that is worth.

As I write this "conformist" feels like the I
Operative term, so maybe that is the answer.
Check out this thread for important statistics which have showed (since early summer 2021) that Covid “Vaccine” is more likely to KILL YOU than save you:

Thread: COVID JAB statistically more likely to KILL YOU per official CDC DATA. You’re 3.87x more likely to die from the Pfizer vax than save your life!!
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She is a doctor (psychiatrist).
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NEVER.
And I mean NEVER assume that since someone is a doctor, teacher, professor, lawyer, politician, etc. that they possess a high IQ.

They may possess such as tested by today's metrics, yet they have ZERO common sense.

Self sufficient Hillbillies possess more raw smarts than any city dweller with degrees.

Soon, when the culling begins, this will be born-out.
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Perhaps you didn't read the rest of the post but I went to school with her from k-12, she was without a doubt well above average intelligence, though if I had to guess she would not have been the highest IQ of our group, but easily well above average, probably 115-120 IQ range.


High level reader, multi instrumentalist, exceptional test taker, etc

But also very studious and obedient.



I could not live like that if I tried but I often wondered if those people have it easier than folks like me (perhaps folks like us) who basically have no choice to be a member of the pack.
Check out this thread for important statistics which have showed (since early summer 2021) that Covid “Vaccine” is more likely to KILL YOU than save you:

Thread: COVID JAB statistically more likely to KILL YOU per official CDC DATA. You’re 3.87x more likely to die from the Pfizer vax than save your life!!
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It’s what they were taught in school. I occasionally read college books and it’s a lot of brainwashing in it. Don’t question authorities etc. Ofcourse i immediately noticed because I study real books. But was shocked.
Either it’s real or it’s not. But it probably is.
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I was in the gifted and talented program, too.

And I am certainly in the same camp with you now. But it was not always that way for me. I used to be brainwashed, went to church, participated, hook, line, and sinker.

I was always rebellious, but it took time and questioning everything before I freed myself of my past and subsequent behavior. For the last 30 years I've attempted to reverse-engineer my past. It took losing friends, breaking traditions, disappointing professional contacts, too. Essentially, disconnection from all contacts of peer pressure, or family pressure.

Years pass. After totally confirming my assumptions as being correct, I now venture out into family get-togethers and meet old friends as the new me with no tolerance for bullshit. I tell them exactly what I think, and I don't give a shit what they think about me. That is total freedom and the prize for taking such a path. It may not be for everyone, but I sleep easy knowing that others have nothing on me, or over me.

Now I always look for "the angle" or the "scam" in all discussions, it helps to perceive the world as it is, not as the way The Powers That Be want us to see it.
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How old were you when you broke free?


9/11 woke me up. The whole thing smelled funny immediately.

This happened today and you know who did it and it's a guy on dialysis in a cave in Afghanistan?!?! And nobody else sees a problem here? And a magic passport fell from the sky, intact through a fireball of jet fuel, which was recovered and immediately used to identify the "bad guys"


I didn't get why ANYONE would believe that obvious load of shit.


I was 22 I think. Never a conformist by a long shot but hadn't had any real reason to question the entire system until then, but after that my views on everything changed.
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Thread: COVID JAB statistically more likely to KILL YOU per official CDC DATA. You’re 3.87x more likely to die from the Pfizer vax than save your life!!
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Intelligence is not about awareness of reality. It is about pattern recognition. One can be totally unaware of the world around them, yet still be able to see and manipulate mathematical patterns. These abstractions may or may not have any relationship with the real world.
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I read all posts. Plenty of good ideas! Here's mine:

I think it's all about if your life experiences taught you to be cautious about trusting authority or not.

If everything was always smooth sailing for you and you naturally fell in with the social environment you grew up in, why would you develop distrust? Why would you assume anything other than that everything is A-OK with the world?

As I see it, "my kind of people" are the kind of people who think for themselves because they don't trust anyone.

There are basically two ways this can happen:

1. You have a shitty start in life one way or the other. Perhaps you have druggie parents, or perhaps you're just not very intelligent, so you aren't doing well in school. The important thing, is that you aren't on a roll in life, and this makes you naturally suspicious, because you know from experience things aren't always in your best interest. Being "a born loser" tends to make you be as sharp as you can.

2. You are "on the spectrum". You suffer from Asperger/high functional autism. This means you may be intelligent enough, but you never seem to get ahead socially. So life teaches you that you have to watch out for yourself and can't trust anyone, because no-one ever understands you or cares about you. When you know you're always on your own, you will think for yourself, since you have no other option.

I'm part of the second group BTW. I don't credit my awareness of the state of the world to superior intelligence, I credit it to being a social outcast.

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It's brain damage. People who seem "smart" but can be brainwashed to such silly things like "covid" have low blood flow between brain parts. Big enough to seem smart but they literally can't connect the dots. Their brain will relay on authority because they have no energy for critical thinking. They are biological NPCs and there is nothing you can do because they are born this way.
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Short version: discuss thoughts on how/why highly intelligent people wind up brainwashed, vaxxtatds, sheeple, etc

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So I just visited with a friend I grew up with. She was in the gifted and talented program with me and I can attest that she is exceptionally intelligent. She is a doctor (psychiatrist). She was talking about how "Trump gave her PTSD"

I can see the media manipulation, propaganda and brainwashing from a fucking mile away. I do grasp that most people seem to prefer not to think for themselves, but I just don't get how so many people, especially highly intelligent people, can be so easily bamboozled.

I say this knowing that I am basically "among my people" ... I know that MOST of you, like me, can see through the bullshit. So I'm not trying to brag here, but genuinely in the interest of hearing your thoughts on why people who possess the intelligence to theoretically be able to see the world for what it is, instead fall into the same trap that seems to me should be reserved for retards only.


I have noticed that REBELLIOUS people tend to be the group who most consistently seemed to know to avoid the vax, to question authority, to recognize that the mainstream media is pure propaganda. So my theory is that there is a segment of society which is effectively "immune" from the brainwashing, but that this occurs mainly because these people, somewhere along the line made a conscious choice to think for themselves, to not blindly follow the heard and to do what is right/logical even if that is not what is EASY.

I will also add that almost to the T, every highly intelligent sheeple that I have encounter has been a hardcore liberal, and live surrounded by liberals, have liberal families, etc. So this would point towards a peer pressure explanation.

My thoughts on the brainwashed smart people is that these are the people the learned to play the game, do their homework, kiss up to the teacher, etc because generally life rewards those traits, and somewhere along the line those behavioral patterns overtook their natural intelligence to the point where individual that is (generally) not rewarded by our society, OBEDIENCE is, and like a lab test monkey that will push the morphine button until it dies because the reward system has over-ridden their common sense and survival instincts.


Thanks for reading, if you have thoughts on the topic I would love to these them. This is a topic I find fascinating. I do "get" why these people get bamboozled, but there is also a part of me that is just flabbergasted at how stupid our society is and as a result how people who have relatively or even exceptionally high IQ can still be manipulated by something that seems to me (and probably to you) to be painfully obvious.
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Very High IQ and Very Low IQ are both mental health conditions. They are not SMART, they are dysfunctional as most of them lack common sense; they are not BALANCED with real world experience.

Being smart is not having a High IQ, it is being able to SOLVE PROBLEMS IN NOVEL WAYS, many "smart" people just follow the status quo and cannot think "Out of the Box". Consequently, most of them never do anything significant.
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High IQ and open mindedness have nothing to do with each other. Simple as that. You think you're smarter than everyone else bc of your massive ego. Just like everyone else.
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I read all posts. Plenty of good ideas! Here's mine:

I think it's all about if your life experiences taught you to be cautious about trusting authority or not.

If everything was always smooth sailing for you and you naturally fell in with the social environment you grew up in, why would you develop distrust? Why would you assume anything other than that everything is A-OK with the world?

As I see it, "my kind of people" are the kind of people who think for themselves because they don't trust anyone.

There are basically two ways this can happen:

1. You have a shitty start in life one way or the other. Perhaps you have druggie parents, or perhaps you're just not very intelligent, so you aren't doing well in school. The important thing, is that you aren't on a roll in life, and this makes you naturally suspicious, because you know from experience things aren't always in your best interest. Being "a born loser" tends to make you be as sharp as you can.

2. You are "on the spectrum". You suffer from Asperger/high functional autism. This means you may be intelligent enough, but you never seem to get ahead socially. So life teaches you that you have to watch out for yourself and can't trust anyone, because no-one ever understands you or cares about you. When you know you're always on your own, you will think for yourself, since you have no other option.

I'm part of the second group BTW. I don't credit my awareness of the state of the world to superior intelligence, I credit it to being a social outcast.
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Lots of great posts in this thread and great ideas to consider, so thanks everyone.


I agree with this post that you learn to question authority and think for yourself, so I could see how those who succeed naturally might not need to learn this.




I was a little hesitant to post because I wasn't sure if it would spur on the thoughtful production I was hoping for or trigger a bunch of people to attack me and call me an asshole (I was prepared for either possibility)





(I do need to go back and read page 2)
Check out this thread for important statistics which have showed (since early summer 2021) that Covid “Vaccine” is more likely to KILL YOU than save you:

Thread: COVID JAB statistically more likely to KILL YOU per official CDC DATA. You’re 3.87x more likely to die from the Pfizer vax than save your life!!
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bumping since I'm curious for answers to this question.
And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm

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many species stick together as a herd.

flocks of birds, herds of bison, deer run in large herds when there are many of them.

a pride of lions, pack of wolves, hyenas.

sharks hunt in packs, predators and prey stick together for the advantage.

the whole point of the bible is to forge a herd for both predation AND defense.

so this behavior is logical up to a point, when lemmings run off a cliff the ones in the back don't know the ones in the front are falling off the cliff
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It's brain damage. People who seem "smart" but can be brainwashed to such silly things like "covid" have low blood flow between brain parts. Big enough to seem smart but they literally can't connect the dots. Their brain will relay on authority because they have no energy for critical thinking. They are biological NPCs and there is nothing you can do because they are born this way.
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no they were vaxxed as infants

the vaccines at birth are to turn you into an npc and damage pancreas and live to produce less sperm
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does this answer your question?






if you can put these two vids together, you get it.

the vaccine destroys the WILL, thus they have no will but the will of their master
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Short version: discuss thoughts on how/why highly intelligent people wind up brainwashed, vaxxtatds, sheeple, etc

************

So I just visited with a friend I grew up with. She was in the gifted and talented program with me and I can attest that she is exceptionally intelligent. She is a doctor (psychiatrist). She was talking about how "Trump gave her PTSD"

I can see the media manipulation, propaganda and brainwashing from a fucking mile away. I do grasp that most people seem to prefer not to think for themselves, but I just don't get how so many people, especially highly intelligent people, can be so easily bamboozled.

I say this knowing that I am basically "among my people" ... I know that MOST of you, like me, can see through the bullshit. So I'm not trying to brag here, but genuinely in the interest of hearing your thoughts on why people who possess the intelligence to theoretically be able to see the world for what it is, instead fall into the same trap that seems to me should be reserved for retards only.


I have noticed that REBELLIOUS people tend to be the group who most consistently seemed to know to avoid the vax, to question authority, to recognize that the mainstream media is pure propaganda. So my theory is that there is a segment of society which is effectively "immune" from the brainwashing, but that this occurs mainly because these people, somewhere along the line made a conscious choice to think for themselves, to not blindly follow the heard and to do what is right/logical even if that is not what is EASY.

I will also add that almost to the T, every highly intelligent sheeple that I have encounter has been a hardcore liberal, and live surrounded by liberals, have liberal families, etc. So this would point towards a peer pressure explanation.

My thoughts on the brainwashed smart people is that these are the people the learned to play the game, do their homework, kiss up to the teacher, etc because generally life rewards those traits, and somewhere along the line those behavioral patterns overtook their natural intelligence to the point where individual that is (generally) not rewarded by our society, OBEDIENCE is, and like a lab test monkey that will push the morphine button until it dies because the reward system has over-ridden their common sense and survival instincts.


Thanks for reading, if you have thoughts on the topic I would love to these them. This is a topic I find fascinating. I do "get" why these people get bamboozled, but there is also a part of me that is just flabbergasted at how stupid our society is and as a result how people who have relatively or even exceptionally high IQ can still be manipulated by something that seems to me (and probably to you) to be painfully obvious.
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OP, I identify with this on a cellular level. before the c19 psyop, I had managed to surround myself with very intelligent and diverse people, most with PhDs or multiple PhDs or engineers and so forth. Now I actively avoid ALL people because every single one of those supposedly .01% of "intelligence" people turned into zombies who violently attacked me for questioning c19 propaganda. EVEN the super weird rich ones who refuse to have a regular job or live any sort of regular life like they travel the world paragliding on their trust fund, but still have a PhD...

To say I was severely disillusioned is not even scratching the surface. I always knew my older family were stupid, but I was banned from Thanksgiving for not being vaccinated right after my father had a heart attack the day after his vaXX. My own brother - a naturopathic doctor - was repeating nonsense propaganda to me and we used to do boatloads of mushrooms in the woods. Then my other brother (PhD intelligence analyst) finally revealed that he has been a zombie NPC from the beginning. Never had an original thought but was only repeating stuff from redditt and is in fact a psychopath communist.

Anyway... what I have determined is that a certain portion of the population are born with a tendency to see the lies of the deep state (for lack of a better term) but the majority are actually hard wired as livestock. Meat. The "education" system is built to reward people who operate well within the system and no matter how many PhDs you get, you will ALWAYS be an NPC if you operate within the system.

I could go on, but the point is that we who can see, just assume that others are like us, but they are not. They are sheep to the core and we are not. There is no way to illuminate them because they simply lack that wiring in their brain.
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OP, I identify with this on a cellular level. before the c19 psyop, I had managed to surround myself with very intelligent and diverse people, most with PhDs or multiple PhDs or engineers and so forth. Now I actively avoid ALL people because every single one of those supposedly .01% of "intelligence" people turned into zombies who violently attacked me for questioning c19 propaganda. EVEN the super weird rich ones who refuse to have a regular job or live any sort of regular life like they travel the world paragliding on their trust fund, but still have a PhD...

To say I was severely disillusioned is not even scratching the surface. I always knew my older family were stupid, but I was banned from Thanksgiving for not being vaccinated right after my father had a heart attack the day after his vaXX. My own brother - a naturopathic doctor - was repeating nonsense propaganda to me and we used to do boatloads of mushrooms in the woods. Then my other brother (PhD intelligence analyst) finally revealed that he has been a zombie NPC from the beginning. Never had an original thought but was only repeating stuff from redditt and is in fact a psychopath communist.

Anyway... what I have determined is that a certain portion of the population are born with a tendency to see the lies of the deep state (for lack of a better term) but the majority are actually hard wired as livestock. Meat. The "education" system is built to reward people who operate well within the system and no matter how many PhDs you get, you will ALWAYS be an NPC if you operate within the system.

I could go on, but the point is that we who can see, just assume that others are like us, but they are not. They are sheep to the core and we are not. There is no way to illuminate them because they simply lack that wiring in their brain.
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now you know what Satan is and the power he really has. I was standing in the way and they broke through and now they turn you against me for sacrificing my sanity for you
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On the flip side, but perhaps also a topic of curiosity:

People who are either average/ low IQ, not book smart, but can EASILY spot the bullshit from a mile away.



I have a good friend I have known since age 14, he was never someone who would have been mistaken for a rocket scientist, remedial classes, (dyslexic I think) low brow as it gets, in his mid 40s and still appreciates a good dick joke. Never went to college and damn near failed out of high school (this dude put the "high" in high school), has 2 DUIs, "blue collar" dude, comes home dirty driving a work van or truck but a really talented carpenter.

He sees this shit from a mile away and it is usually interesting to talk to him about things.
Check out this thread for important statistics which have showed (since early summer 2021) that Covid “Vaccine” is more likely to KILL YOU than save you:

Thread: COVID JAB statistically more likely to KILL YOU per official CDC DATA. You’re 3.87x more likely to die from the Pfizer vax than save your life!!
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OP, I identify with this on a cellular level. before the c19 psyop, I had managed to surround myself with very intelligent and diverse people, most with PhDs or multiple PhDs or engineers and so forth. Now I actively avoid ALL people because every single one of those supposedly .01% of "intelligence" people turned into zombies who violently attacked me for questioning c19 propaganda. EVEN the super weird rich ones who refuse to have a regular job or live any sort of regular life like they travel the world paragliding on their trust fund, but still have a PhD...

To say I was severely disillusioned is not even scratching the surface. I always knew my older family were stupid, but I was banned from Thanksgiving for not being vaccinated right after my father had a heart attack the day after his vaXX. My own brother - a naturopathic doctor - was repeating nonsense propaganda to me and we used to do boatloads of mushrooms in the woods. Then my other brother (PhD intelligence analyst) finally revealed that he has been a zombie NPC from the beginning. Never had an original thought but was only repeating stuff from redditt and is in fact a psychopath communist.

Anyway... what I have determined is that a certain portion of the population are born with a tendency to see the lies of the deep state (for lack of a better term) but the majority are actually hard wired as livestock. Meat. The "education" system is built to reward people who operate well within the system and no matter how many PhDs you get, you will ALWAYS be an NPC if you operate within the system.

I could go on, but the point is that we who can see, just assume that others are like us, but they are not. They are sheep to the core and we are not. There is no way to illuminate them because they simply lack that wiring in their brain.
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now you know what Satan is and the power he really has. I was standing in the way and they broke through and now they turn you against me for sacrificing my sanity for you.
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OP, I identify with this on a cellular level. before the c19 psyop, I had managed to surround myself with very intelligent and diverse people, most with PhDs or multiple PhDs or engineers and so forth. Now I actively avoid ALL people because every single one of those supposedly .01% of "intelligence" people turned into zombies who violently attacked me for questioning c19 propaganda. EVEN the super weird rich ones who refuse to have a regular job or live any sort of regular life like they travel the world paragliding on their trust fund, but still have a PhD...

To say I was severely disillusioned is not even scratching the surface. I always knew my older family were stupid, but I was banned from Thanksgiving for not being vaccinated right after my father had a heart attack the day after his vaXX. My own brother - a naturopathic doctor - was repeating nonsense propaganda to me and we used to do boatloads of mushrooms in the woods. Then my other brother (PhD intelligence analyst) finally revealed that he has been a zombie NPC from the beginning. Never had an original thought but was only repeating stuff from redditt and is in fact a psychopath communist.

Anyway... what I have determined is that a certain portion of the population are born with a tendency to see the lies of the deep state (for lack of a better term) but the majority are actually hard wired as livestock. Meat. The "education" system is built to reward people who operate well within the system and no matter how many PhDs you get, you will ALWAYS be an NPC if you operate within the system.

I could go on, but the point is that we who can see, just assume that others are like us, but they are not. They are sheep to the core and we are not. There is no way to illuminate them because they simply lack that wiring in their brain.
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now you know what Satan is and the power he really has. I was standing in the way and they broke through and now they turn you against me for sacrificing my sanity for you.
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OP, I identify with this on a cellular level. before the c19 psyop, I had managed to surround myself with very intelligent and diverse people, most with PhDs or multiple PhDs or engineers and so forth. Now I actively avoid ALL people because every single one of those supposedly .01% of "intelligence" people turned into zombies who violently attacked me for questioning c19 propaganda. EVEN the super weird rich ones who refuse to have a regular job or live any sort of regular life like they travel the world paragliding on their trust fund, but still have a PhD...

To say I was severely disillusioned is not even scratching the surface. I always knew my older family were stupid, but I was banned from Thanksgiving for not being vaccinated right after my father had a heart attack the day after his vaXX. My own brother - a naturopathic doctor - was repeating nonsense propaganda to me and we used to do boatloads of mushrooms in the woods. Then my other brother (PhD intelligence analyst) finally revealed that he has been a zombie NPC from the beginning. Never had an original thought but was only repeating stuff from redditt and is in fact a psychopath communist.

Anyway... what I have determined is that a certain portion of the population are born with a tendency to see the lies of the deep state (for lack of a better term) but the majority are actually hard wired as livestock. Meat. The "education" system is built to reward people who operate well within the system and no matter how many PhDs you get, you will ALWAYS be an NPC if you operate within the system.

I could go on, but the point is that we who can see, just assume that others are like us, but they are not. They are sheep to the core and we are not. There is no way to illuminate them because they simply lack that wiring in their brain.
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Short version: discuss thoughts on how/why highly intelligent people wind up brainwashed, vaxxtatds, sheeple, etc

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So I just visited with a friend I grew up with. She was in the gifted and talented program with me and I can attest that she is exceptionally intelligent. She is a doctor (psychiatrist). She was talking about how "Trump gave her PTSD"

I can see the media manipulation, propaganda and brainwashing from a fucking mile away. I do grasp that most people seem to prefer not to think for themselves, but I just don't get how so many people, especially highly intelligent people, can be so easily bamboozled.

I say this knowing that I am basically "among my people" ... I know that MOST of you, like me, can see through the bullshit. So I'm not trying to brag here, but genuinely in the interest of hearing your thoughts on why people who possess the intelligence to theoretically be able to see the world for what it is, instead fall into the same trap that seems to me should be reserved for retards only.


I have noticed that REBELLIOUS people tend to be the group who most consistently seemed to know to avoid the vax, to question authority, to recognize that the mainstream media is pure propaganda. So my theory is that there is a segment of society which is effectively "immune" from the brainwashing, but that this occurs mainly because these people, somewhere along the line made a conscious choice to think for themselves, to not blindly follow the heard and to do what is right/logical even if that is not what is EASY.

I will also add that almost to the T, every highly intelligent sheeple that I have encounter has been a hardcore liberal, and live surrounded by liberals, have liberal families, etc. So this would point towards a peer pressure explanation.

My thoughts on the brainwashed smart people is that these are the people the learned to play the game, do their homework, kiss up to the teacher, etc because generally life rewards those traits, and somewhere along the line those behavioral patterns overtook their natural intelligence to the point where individual that is (generally) not rewarded by our society, OBEDIENCE is, and like a lab test monkey that will push the morphine button until it dies because the reward system has over-ridden their common sense and survival instincts.


Thanks for reading, if you have thoughts on the topic I would love to these them. This is a topic I find fascinating. I do "get" why these people get bamboozled, but there is also a part of me that is just flabbergasted at how stupid our society is and as a result how people who have relatively or even exceptionally high IQ can still be manipulated by something that seems to me (and probably to you) to be painfully obvious.
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Interesting question. It's not about intelligence, it's about curiosity, and having been exposed to, or having been able to observe conflicting versions of reality.

Example 1: Having been raised by a schizophrenic parent, and knowing from a very young age that whatever they say only applies to their own separate reality.

Example 2: Having experienced two or more different cultures and noticed how each culture is uniquely brainwashed and hence having worked out one's own brainwashing.

Example 3: Having been exposed to phenomenon which can't be explained through the current accepted scientific paradigm.

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OP, I identify with this on a cellular level. before the c19 psyop, I had managed to surround myself with very intelligent and diverse people, most with PhDs or multiple PhDs or engineers and so forth. Now I actively avoid ALL people because every single one of those supposedly .01% of "intelligence" people turned into zombies who violently attacked me for questioning c19 propaganda. EVEN the super weird rich ones who refuse to have a regular job or live any sort of regular life like they travel the world paragliding on their trust fund, but still have a PhD...

To say I was severely disillusioned is not even scratching the surface. I always knew my older family were stupid, but I was banned from Thanksgiving for not being vaccinated right after my father had a heart attack the day after his vaXX. My own brother - a naturopathic doctor - was repeating nonsense propaganda to me and we used to do boatloads of mushrooms in the woods. Then my other brother (PhD intelligence analyst) finally revealed that he has been a zombie NPC from the beginning. Never had an original thought but was only repeating stuff from redditt and is in fact a psychopath communist.

Anyway... what I have determined is that a certain portion of the population are born with a tendency to see the lies of the deep state (for lack of a better term) but the majority are actually hard wired as livestock. Meat. The "education" system is built to reward people who operate well within the system and no matter how many PhDs you get, you will ALWAYS be an NPC if you operate within the system.

I could go on, but the point is that we who can see, just assume that others are like us, but they are not. They are sheep to the core and we are not. There is no way to illuminate them because they simply lack that wiring in their brain.
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I let others play their hand while I keep my cards close to my chest.
For the most part I have managed to avoid burning bridges.

My in laws are die hard propaganda worshipping sheeple and they decided they would corner me one day when I was picking up my kids from them and force me to discuss the vax with them. I tried my usual diversion tactics but they were determined. So I bombarded them with facts and studies that I knew they hadn't seen on their mainstream MSNBC propaganda. They had no ability to debate me, which was no surprise, so they tucked tail and ran. And at that point I was cool with it. They tried, they FAILED, they can fuck off and we can leave it like that. No hard feelings. I knew they were brainwashed fucktards, they knew I was a free thinker, we can carry on.

But they wouldn't leave it alone. A week goes by and they pick another fight with me. It was like the scene in Fight Club "pick a fight and lose." The 1st encounter already made it crystal clear that they had no idea what they were talking about and couldn't hold their side of a factual debate but they came back for more. I showed them that the source of their propaganda article was on the fucking board of Pfizer and sent them the Pfizer study which showed higher mortality in the vax group than the control.

This happened one more time and after going a decisive 0-3 they have kept quiet but the damage is done. I'm at peace with it. I don't have to pretend to like them anymore. I have my father in law's admission IN WRITING that he has no idea what he is talking about.


But... Other than THAT train wreck, I haven't lost any friends. And I didn't like my in laws to begin with, so no real loss there.

I live in liberal fantasy land among rich liberals, but I don't think any of them are smart enough to size me up and I don't give them reason to. I never discuss politics on social media and if I do, for example on this forum, I don't use my real name.

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Thread: COVID JAB statistically more likely to KILL YOU per official CDC DATA. You’re 3.87x more likely to die from the Pfizer vax than save your life!!
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It's very simple.

Appeal to their ego.
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Same with rich people and very good looking people.


People are really simple animals -- most of them.
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The smartest monkeys are the easiest to train.


Education is a weapon. Some times for you, but usually against u
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willful monkeys get tortured.

I'm being tortured by our satanic courts for not wearing a mask


people sense how crazy and dangerous the people in power are, that's why they are complying, and are obedient unto death. they want to avoid being punished
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It's very simple.

Appeal to their ego.
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I find that funny.


"Haha. Look at those dummies that don't think the same thing that we have all been told by the TV is the right thing to think!

Clearly we are right about all the things because we all agree about all the things we were told to think!"
Check out this thread for important statistics which have showed (since early summer 2021) that Covid “Vaccine” is more likely to KILL YOU than save you:

Thread: COVID JAB statistically more likely to KILL YOU per official CDC DATA. You’re 3.87x more likely to die from the Pfizer vax than save your life!!





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