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Discussion on how smart people / people with high IQ get brainwashed

 
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Discussion on how smart people / people with high IQ get brainwashed
Short version: discuss thoughts on how/why highly intelligent people wind up brainwashed, vaxxtatds, sheeple, etc

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So I just visited with a friend I grew up with. She was in the gifted and talented program with me and I can attest that she is exceptionally intelligent. She is a doctor (psychiatrist). She was talking about how "Trump gave her PTSD"

I can see the media manipulation, propaganda and brainwashing from a fucking mile away. I do grasp that most people seem to prefer not to think for themselves, but I just don't get how so many people, especially highly intelligent people, can be so easily bamboozled.

I say this knowing that I am basically "among my people" ... I know that MOST of you, like me, can see through the bullshit. So I'm not trying to brag here, but genuinely in the interest of hearing your thoughts on why people who possess the intelligence to theoretically be able to see the world for what it is, instead fall into the same trap that seems to me should be reserved for retards only.


I have noticed that REBELLIOUS people tend to be the group who most consistently seemed to know to avoid the vax, to question authority, to recognize that the mainstream media is pure propaganda. So my theory is that there is a segment of society which is effectively "immune" from the brainwashing, but that this occurs mainly because these people, somewhere along the line made a conscious choice to think for themselves, to not blindly follow the heard and to do what is right/logical even if that is not what is EASY.

I will also add that almost to the T, every highly intelligent sheeple that I have encounter has been a hardcore liberal, and live surrounded by liberals, have liberal families, etc. So this would point towards a peer pressure explanation.

My thoughts on the brainwashed smart people is that these are the people the learned to play the game, do their homework, kiss up to the teacher, etc because generally life rewards those traits, and somewhere along the line those behavioral patterns overtook their natural intelligence to the point where individual that is (generally) not rewarded by our society, OBEDIENCE is, and like a lab test monkey that will push the morphine button until it dies because the reward system has over-ridden their common sense and survival instincts.


Thanks for reading, if you have thoughts on the topic I would love to these them. This is a topic I find fascinating. I do "get" why these people get bamboozled, but there is also a part of me that is just flabbergasted at how stupid our society is and as a result how people who have relatively or even exceptionally high IQ can still be manipulated by something that seems to me (and probably to you) to be painfully obvious.
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Re: Discussion on how smart people / people with high IQ get brainwashed
Good reasoning. I also fail to understand it, but from my view it is a feeling of FOMO as well (fear of missing out). Being surrounded by those that think the same way, one tends to feel isolated, and to fight through the isolation and begin thinking for yourself, is a hard thing to do for most people. Especially when they have never seen a different view point that wasn’t some mumbling homeless guy or crazy person put on TV.

Also, the propaganda starts early nowadays, it’s hard to teach yourself to think outside of it. As well as, families tend to thing similarly, and so escaping it when your whole family is on that libera thinktrain is probably nearly impossible without being exiled, especially considering the attacking they have propagated against either side, by the opposite, for failing to adopt their ‘values’. Things like that.
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Because if you spend all your time in high minded/ivory tower thoughts, you tend to have lower defenses on real basic shit, like fear management.

Then, somebody technically more stupid,but with relevant experience can fuck you up and hijack your brain.

Kinda simple.

Smarter you are, the more base to attack.
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It's because they're weak.
Too weak to consider possibilities that might be uncomfortable to acknowledge. To weak to leave their safe spot.
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It's like you say. Conformist, herd mentality, "skin in the game" stuff. Intelligent people are good at rationalizing, as in the defense mechanism.

I like to think about the Stanford prison experiment. It was bad science actually. They were all Stanford students, an ivy league school. There wasn't a control group. Who spends their entire life eagerly jumping through hoops trying to meet and exceed the expectations of their superiors? Stanford students. If they had gathered a bunch of Mexicans or something they'd probably just have spent the time playing cards instead of brutally beating their peers in the name of arbitrary authority.

This is an awakening to the sicker side of our modern culture. There is no equality or freedom here. Only willing slaves. Those who do break the invisible cage are ostracized severely. They evoke disgust in the normies.
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Most people are too weak of character to stand alone with a dissenting view point against the crowd.

Liberals in particular are especially weak in this respect, which is why they want big daddy government and the welfare state to do everything and provide everything for them. It's no accident that the majority of liberals are beta's.

Normally in nature, they would die quickly if left to their own devices.
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Its cult mentality.

Based on self and pride.

People like to feel special.

So the vaxtards...or branch covidians...all act very culty.

Its like a religion.

And everone not vax is of the dark side as it were.

In the end its what you believe that controls you.

Not how "smart" you are.
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I think they are focused on so much else in their own lives that they blindly trust what mainstream says. Or maybe it’s just occums (spelling??) razor where they can’t possibly understand or believe that their doctor would a)blatantly lie to them or b)be blatantly lied to and just spread shinfo (shitty info.)

I’m retarded and sometimes it makes me think I’m in the wrong lol!
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I was in the gifted and talented program, too.

And I am certainly in the same camp with you now. But it was not always that way for me. I used to be brainwashed, went to church, participated, hook, line, and sinker.

I was always rebellious, but it took time and questioning everything before I freed myself of my past and subsequent behavior. For the last 30 years I've attempted to reverse-engineer my past. It took losing friends, breaking traditions, disappointing professional contacts, too. Essentially, disconnection from all contacts of peer pressure, or family pressure.

Years pass. After totally confirming my assumptions as being correct, I now venture out into family get-togethers and meet old friends as the new me with no tolerance for bullshit. I tell them exactly what I think, and I don't give a shit what they think about me. That is total freedom and the prize for taking such a path. It may not be for everyone, but I sleep easy knowing that others have nothing on me, or over me.

Now I always look for "the angle" or the "scam" in all discussions, it helps to perceive the world as it is, not as the way The Powers That Be want us to see it.
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Re: Discussion on how smart people / people with high IQ get brainwashed
Just because someone is successful or seems smart, doesn’t mean they have a high IQ. They did an interesting IQ study in Britain where they tested rocket scientists and brain surgeons, among others. Guess what they discovered? Rocket scientists and brain surgeons don’t have higher IQs than other intelligent people. In fact, they even score lower in some metrics. Of course they have an aptitude for science and an good work ethic, but they do not have exceptional IQs. Take it for what it’s worth. I found the study interesting and somewhat validating of my observations. People you think are highly intelligent can be just as delusional as anyone else, because they really aren’t more intelligent. Sorry I can’t link or cite to the study - I heard it described on a podcast.
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Because if you spend all your time in high minded/ivory tower thoughts, you tend to have lower defenses on real basic shit, like fear management.

Then, somebody technically more stupid,but with relevant experience can fuck you up and hijack your brain.

Kinda simple.

Smarter you are, the more base to attack.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62226146

Oh come on, that is simply not true. IQ and courage are exclusive traits...mostly at least I'm sure. These "intelligent" people simply have vested interest in the society that deems them "intelligent" and can rationalize the truth away better than most because they focus on thinking exclusively and can ignore feelings on a subject.

I personally had a hard time in Calculus 2 because it all seemed like voodoo to me. It's a really abstract subject. After I could believe in it on a gut level it became easy. I could have just memorized the steps plain and simple, but I have a hard time remembering things I don't believe in and it drains my enthusiasm. These "intelligent" people are better able to learn things they don't believe in. That's my opinion.
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She is a doctor (psychiatrist).
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NEVER.
And I mean NEVER assume that since someone is a doctor, teacher, professor, lawyer, politician, etc. that they possess a high IQ.

They may possess such as tested by today's metrics, yet they have ZERO common sense.

Self sufficient Hillbillies possess more raw smarts than any city dweller with degrees.

Soon, when the culling begins, this will be born-out.
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I was in the gifted and talented program, too.
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EVERY parent wants their kid in the 'gifted/talented' program.

EVERY LAST ONE.

Susie is soooo talented.
Alfie is soooo gifted.

Pure BS.

No one is born 'gifted' or 'talented', it is acquired knowledge and dexterity learned naturally through involved parenting.
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By the way, seems like she has no business treating people if she can be so easily fooled. She actually blames President Trump for her delusion?
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I was in the gifted and talented program, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79831062



EVERY parent wants their kid in the 'gifted/talented' program.

EVERY LAST ONE.

Susie is soooo talented.
Alfie is soooo gifted.

Pure BS.

No one is born 'gifted' or 'talented', it is acquired knowledge and dexterity learned naturally through involved parenting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318


You couldn't be more wrong. My parents were, and still are, basically, idiots. My own inquiries, curiosity, examination, and seeking answers is what led me to where I am today. Not their influence, in fact, their influence is what HAD to be shed.
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I was in the gifted and talented program, too.
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EVERY parent wants their kid in the 'gifted/talented' program.

EVERY LAST ONE.

Susie is soooo talented.
Alfie is soooo gifted.

Pure BS.

No one is born 'gifted' or 'talented', it is acquired knowledge and dexterity learned naturally through involved parenting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318


You couldn't be more wrong. My parents were, and still are, basically, idiots. My own inquiries, curiosity, examination, and seeking answers is what led me to where I am today. Not their influence, in fact, their influence is what HAD to be shed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79831062


Yet you were inquisitive and taught yourself.

You were NOT born 'talented' or 'gifted'.

Still, talent and giftedness are taught .. learned.
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Re: Discussion on how smart people / people with high IQ get brainwashed
Just because someone is successful or seems smart, doesn’t mean they have a high IQ. They did an interesting IQ study in Britain where they tested rocket scientists and brain surgeons, among others. Guess what they discovered? Rocket scientists and brain surgeons don’t have higher IQs than other intelligent people. In fact, they even score lower in some metrics. Of course they have an aptitude for science and an good work ethic, but they do not have exceptional IQs. Take it for what it’s worth. I found the study interesting and somewhat validating of my observations. People you think are highly intelligent can be just as delusional as anyone else, because they really aren’t more intelligent. Sorry I can’t link or cite to the study - I heard it described on a podcast.
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Yeah there are issues with how intelligence is measured and perceived in society, largely due to our education system.
Being good at taking exams, or having a good-great memory, an exceptional ability to store and parrot information (think Doctors) does not equal actual real-world intelligence.
Another factor is T.V. personally I have not had one for many years but when I visit friends or family who do watch I get curious, even angry looks when I see directly through the "news", adverts and agenda laden soaps and braindead reality shows and LOL. I do watch choice TV shows and movies via various means but if I detect too much (or too obvious) programming I do not continue watching.
There are other, more minor factors I can think of but those are the main two.
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Simple. Peer pressure. You either cave and accept lies or you don't. Nothing to do with intelligent, everything to do with being a soft ass birch.
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Its cult mentality.

Based on self and pride.

People like to feel special.

So the vaxtards...or branch covidians...all act very culty.

Its like a religion.

And everyone not vax is of the dark side as it were.

In the end its what you believe that controls you.

Not how "smart" you are.
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Sadly it seems that for many people "what they believe" comes direct from the TV or newspaper, with very little analysis or interrogation and way, way too much trust.

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If you are a professional in the sciences, then going against the opinions of mainstream science and academia, is a career killer...Those who respect and trust science, will accept it as gospel...

I consider science, alternative theories and evidence, experience, and logic, plus my ability to think outside the box to come to my own conclusions...
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I was in the gifted and talented program, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79831062



EVERY parent wants their kid in the 'gifted/talented' program.

EVERY LAST ONE.

Susie is soooo talented.
Alfie is soooo gifted.

Pure BS.

No one is born 'gifted' or 'talented', it is acquired knowledge and dexterity learned naturally through involved parenting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318


You couldn't be more wrong. My parents were, and still are, basically, idiots. My own inquiries, curiosity, examination, and seeking answers is what led me to where I am today. Not their influence, in fact, their influence is what HAD to be shed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79831062


Yet you were inquisitive and taught yourself.

You were NOT born 'talented' or 'gifted'.

Still, talent and giftedness are taught .. learned.
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You seem to be "hung up" on the name of a program. Kind of off the subject.
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EVERY parent wants their kid in the 'gifted/talented' program.

EVERY LAST ONE.

Susie is soooo talented.
Alfie is soooo gifted.

Pure BS.

No one is born 'gifted' or 'talented', it is acquired knowledge and dexterity learned naturally through involved parenting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318


You couldn't be more wrong. My parents were, and still are, basically, idiots. My own inquiries, curiosity, examination, and seeking answers is what led me to where I am today. Not their influence, in fact, their influence is what HAD to be shed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79831062


Yet you were inquisitive and taught yourself.

You were NOT born 'talented' or 'gifted'.

Still, talent and giftedness are taught .. learned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318


You seem to be "hung up" on the name of a program. Kind of off the subject.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79831062


What 'program'?

I'm saying that gifted/talented/high IQ individuals are not born that way.

It's indoctrination into a way of life/way of thinking about the world. Inquisitiveness, books, travel and experience.

Goes both ways ... they can be indoctrinated into thinking that their evil way is best.

Satan is a deceiver .. in the mind.
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My opinion is that the really smart ones understand at an early age (say between 12 and 16) that the system is a joke and they then use their intelligence to avoid being a part of the system as much as possible.

If you want to find the smart ones, look to the drop outs.
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It's because they're weak.
Too weak to consider possibilities that might be uncomfortable to acknowledge. To weak to leave their safe spot.
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My opinion is that the really smart ones understand at an early age (say between 12 and 16) that the system is a joke and they then use their intelligence to avoid being a part of the system as much as possible.

If you want to find the smart ones, look to the drop outs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45504332


Wrong. The smart ones are the ones who keep their head down, get the most out of the system, go out into business on their own where the system can't control them anymore, and then do as they please. It takes more endurance and the payout is far greater than anything for a drop out.
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Funny isnt it? So smart, best grades, top of the class, much talent. But they are not smart enough not to get the kill shot. See, that is the difference between pure intelligence and wisdom. Ask astro, he so smart he cant even see the difference between photography and CGI.

ohyeah
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Sadly it does seem the hottest most intelligent girls are the most brainwashed and most liberal. Non-brainwashed girls sadly are almost always ugly and low IQ.
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Intelligence come in many different forms. The so-called book smart people are hungry to be known as smart. They are given polls that show that most educated people tend to be liberal. In their minds they see educated as synonymous with smart.

Truth is that it takes both kinds, the book smart and the street smart. They should appreciate one another and acknowledge they each are limited in perspective.
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Mother Nature endows every population with different personalities for good evolutionary reason.

There are rebels, conformists, adrenaline junkies, fakers, mostly sheep.

Sometimes we even need our natural born killers.
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What a stupid fucking thread!





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