Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 84022919 08/16/2022 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money Hollywood cannot make a movie without gun violence, yet they scream about gun control constantly as they virtue signal neurotically in public while they blast away in their movies and TV shows. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 84022919 08/16/2022 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money Baldwin broke multiple established protocols that actors MUST follow when using a firearm on set. These include NEVER point it at another human, treat every gun as if it is real and loaded, check the firearm yourself every time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32577701 United States 08/16/2022 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money I've said it a million times... the only thing Alec Baldwin can conceivably get charged with is negligence for safely handling a firearm... a slap on the wrist. THE ARMORER can get charged with manslaughter and is infinitely more culpable than Alec Baldwin... there should have NEVER been a live round in that gun. Buck stops with the ARMORER. She might get charged with CRIMINAL negligence resulting in a homicide, or manslaughter. Then, probably the entire production will get sued for damages in civil court as well. Alec could get hit again, since he was a producer on the film and everyones safety was his responsibility. But no CRIMINAL charges for Alec... not happening. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83899881 United States 08/16/2022 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money I've said it a million times... the only thing Alec Baldwin can conceivably get charged with is negligence for safely handling a firearm... a slap on the wrist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32577701 THE ARMORER can get charged with manslaughter and is infinitely more culpable than Alec Baldwin... there should have NEVER been a live round in that gun. Buck stops with the ARMORER. She might get charged with CRIMINAL negligence resulting in a homicide, or manslaughter. Then, probably the entire production will get sued for damages in civil court as well. Alec could get hit again, since he was a producer on the film and everyones safety was his responsibility. But no CRIMINAL charges for Alec... not happening. They would have to prove that she actually left a loaded gun there. I don't assume Baldwin is innocent in this way either. It may not be enough to convict him, but the stink of it should be enough to prevent her conviction. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84022328 United States 08/16/2022 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money I've said it a million times... the only thing Alec Baldwin can conceivably get charged with is negligence for safely handling a firearm... a slap on the wrist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32577701 THE ARMORER can get charged with manslaughter and is infinitely more culpable than Alec Baldwin... there should have NEVER been a live round in that gun. Buck stops with the ARMORER. She might get charged with CRIMINAL negligence resulting in a homicide, or manslaughter. Then, probably the entire production will get sued for damages in civil court as well. Alec could get hit again, since he was a producer on the film and everyones safety was his responsibility. But no CRIMINAL charges for Alec... not happening. Bottom line is HE was in charge of the entire set and production, the buck stops at Alec.... MOST IMPORTANTLY THE CREW WAS OUT SHOOTING REAL GUNS DURING BREAKS ON THE SET, HE KNEW THIS AND LIVE AMMO IS NEVER TO BE ON SET...HE KNEW ABOUT THAT...HE SHOULD HAVE CHECKED THE GUN HE WAS USING BEFORE HE WORKED WITH IT ON SET, HE FAILED TO DO SO... Alec is going to prison for a long time . I'd say ten to fifteen years in the big house. |
Grumpyarse User ID: 83987740 United Kingdom 08/16/2022 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money And how would Baldwin suspect that there was live rounds in the cylinder, we all know you never point a weapon at something you don't mean to intimidate to kill. Just as an armed robber points a weapon at the victim in order for the victim to ceed control or power money or anything of value. Was Baldwin using the gun as a prop to go through a scene? Was the guns trigger mechanism faulty after being cocked going off as the result of a sear fault.....happened to me once on my over/under shotgun shooting clays snapped the barrels shut (already fired sixty odd shells thru the gun) as I called "pull" clicked the safety off finger on the trigger guard and the gun fired both fucking barrels. So as I have never seen an explanation of why Baldwin might lie why he may have known that the weapon was hot what axe to grind did he have with anybody can someone shed some light on the conspiracy surrounding the whole sad episode. As a side note I remember watching Michael Parkinson a well known British chat show host who interviewed or rather chatted with all of Hollywood's elite in the 70's he was talking to James Cagney about the early years of fun making and I was stunned when he said that the film studios used to use live bullets on set, he was speaking about a prison breakout scene where the windows were being shot out with.45 calibre bullets from a Thompson (Chicago Piano) sub-machine gun. The film was Public Enemy. Grumpyarse |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 84022919 08/16/2022 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money I've said it a million times... the only thing Alec Baldwin can conceivably get charged with is negligence for safely handling a firearm... a slap on the wrist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32577701 THE ARMORER can get charged with manslaughter and is infinitely more culpable than Alec Baldwin... there should have NEVER been a live round in that gun. Buck stops with the ARMORER. She might get charged with CRIMINAL negligence resulting in a homicide, or manslaughter. Then, probably the entire production will get sued for damages in civil court as well. Alec could get hit again, since he was a producer on the film and everyones safety was his responsibility. But no CRIMINAL charges for Alec... not happening. They would have to prove that she actually left a loaded gun there. I don't assume Baldwin is innocent in this way either. It may not be enough to convict him, but the stink of it should be enough to prevent her conviction. |
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Samantha User ID: 83185850 Canada 08/16/2022 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money Baldwin broke multiple established protocols that actors MUST follow when using a firearm on set. These include NEVER point it at another human, treat every gun as if it is real and loaded, check the firearm yourself every time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84022919 I was thinking about that the other day, he made a 1 in a million mistake of pointing the gun at someone, then he made the one in a billion mistake of pulling the trigger and then what are the odds...1 in a trillion?, there was a real bullet in it. All those things happening at the same time are suspicious to say the least. |
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Massimo User ID: 79589395 United States 08/16/2022 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money Can anyone explain why Alec Baldwin would want to lie about "pulling the trigger" Quoting: Grumpyarse [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84024713 08/16/2022 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money Can anyone explain why Alec Baldwin would want to lie about "pulling the trigger" Quoting: Grumpyarse [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74569735 United States 08/16/2022 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money Why in the fuck are they using real guns on a movie set? there are plenty of great replicas in the world. As much as I dislike him as a person, I don't see how this is his fault. He just shouldn't have lied. Where is the risk managment dept? I can't even wear fucking sandals at work. WHat is going on here? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84024787 Australia 08/16/2022 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money Baldwin broke multiple established protocols that actors MUST follow when using a firearm on set. These include NEVER point it at another human, treat every gun as if it is real and loaded, check the firearm yourself every time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84022919 lol, how do you do all that and then make it seem like you are shooting someone? What was he supposed to do, test all the blanks, in which case there would be no more blanks to use. In the Matrix you can clearly see Smith shooting Neo with a blank as the full cartridge is ejected. Baldwin is not guilty here. Whomever gave him the gun is. Sorry haters, but common sense says "if the glove dont fit"... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80202486 United States 08/20/2022 03:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money Baldwin broke multiple established protocols that actors MUST follow when using a firearm on set. These include NEVER point it at another human, treat every gun as if it is real and loaded, check the firearm yourself every time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84022919 lol, how do you do all that and then make it seem like you are shooting someone? What was he supposed to do, test all the blanks, in which case there would be no more blanks to use. In the Matrix you can clearly see Smith shooting Neo with a blank as the full cartridge is ejected. Baldwin is not guilty here. Whomever gave him the gun is. Sorry haters, but common sense says "if the glove dont fit"... As much as I hate Baldwin, you may be right, but he was probably set up because he deserved it...likely as payback for his terrible played out unfunny Trump impersonations and constant insults to Trump. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83999554 Australia 08/20/2022 03:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money Can anyone explain why Alec Baldwin would want to lie about "pulling the trigger" the gun had live rounds in the cylinder why? Who would take live rounds to a movie set? Quoting: Grumpyarse And how would Baldwin suspect that there was live rounds in the cylinder, we all know you never point a weapon at something you don't mean to intimidate to kill. Just as an armed robber points a weapon at the victim in order for the victim to ceed control or power money or anything of value. Was Baldwin using the gun as a prop to go through a scene? Was the guns trigger mechanism faulty after being cocked going off as the result of a sear fault.....happened to me once on my over/under shotgun shooting clays snapped the barrels shut (already fired sixty odd shells thru the gun) as I called "pull" clicked the safety off finger on the trigger guard and the gun fired both fucking barrels. So as I have never seen an explanation of why Baldwin might lie why he may have known that the weapon was hot what axe to grind did he have with anybody can someone shed some light on the conspiracy surrounding the whole sad episode. As a side note I remember watching Michael Parkinson a well known British chat show host who interviewed or rather chatted with all of Hollywood's elite in the 70's he was talking to James Cagney about the early years of fun making and I was stunned when he said that the film studios used to use live bullets on set, he was speaking about a prison breakout scene where the windows were being shot out with.45 calibre bullets from a Thompson (Chicago Piano) sub-machine gun. The film was Public Enemy. You sir, are a typical, smug, fuck faced British cunt, fuck you. |
Let Freedom Ring 365 User ID: 81028090 United States 08/20/2022 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money You are the creator of your own master plan... Make it a good one. Wake the fuk up and be ready... This is absolutely no time to be stupid! “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” - Nikola Tesla |
thetrickybigguy User ID: 79556664 United States 08/20/2022 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money POS cocksucker hired a 'private eye' and this asshole said that NOBODY will be charged with that ladies death. trying like hell to get in front of this murder that he committed. Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living. ~ Life is about choices, you get to make them each and every day of your life. ~ Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.~ Only in America... do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poloi' in Greek meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.~ “When a government is dependent for money upon the bankers, they and not the government leaders control the nation. This is because the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Financiers are without patriotism and without decency.” If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain. Winston Churchill |
936432979 User ID: 76832232 United States 08/20/2022 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money Armorer On 'Rust' Set Sues Ammo Dealer Alleging He Is To Blame For Fatal Shooting In the lawsuit filed Wednesday, she says that Kenney was the “primary distributor of ammunition and firearms” to the production. She also alleges he tried to hide his own negligence. Five days before Baldwin shot and killed Hutchins, Guitierrez-Reed said there were two accidental discharges of real bullets on the “Rust” set, suggesting that Kenney’s allegedly non-functioning rounds were in fact live. When Guitierrez-Reed told her supervisor, Sarah Zachry, to report the incidents to the production, the lawsuit says that Kenney “essentially told Hannah to back off and that ‘mistakes happen’ and that Hannah needed to remember that Sarah was her boss and not to ‘push it,’” according to a screenshot of a text message purportedly sent by Kenney. According to the lawsuit, Oct. 21, the day of the fatal shooting, unfolded with a calamitous combination of disorganization, hurrying, lax supervision of both Baldwin and the gun that killed Hutchins, and “the unexplained arrival of a newly full ammo box,” which Guitierrez-Reed said came from Kenney. [link to laist.com (secure)] Hannah Gutierrez-Reed vs Seth Kenney and PDQ Arm and Prop LLC [link to deadline.com (secure)] Last Edited by 936432979 on 08/20/2022 08:48 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80206576 United States 08/20/2022 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money My worthless opinion: Nothing happens to baldwin. He played their game. He proved himself worthy of them. He even made the blood sacrifice at a broken down black church and almost made a "two-fer"... Had the director not been shot by accident (wasn't supposed to be there) we wouldn't even be hearing about this. Either the victim would've been "disappeared" or they would've chocked it all up to a tragic accident, paid off whoever and we would be watching the "RUST" film right now. Damned that stupid director.... So yeah, he walks. |
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936432979 User ID: 76832232 United States 08/20/2022 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money Seth Kenney deliberately sabotaged the production by slipping live ammo into the boxes of dummy rounds supplied to the set, or refused to double check his supply before sending, because he wanted wanted to set up a dangerous situation to see what would happen, for his own amusement, or because the armorer was young, inexperienced, and he wanted to teach her a lesson, or because he’s a psychopath. |
nutmeg User ID: 76388104 United States 08/21/2022 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money Alec Baldwin Just Got Fired From a Movie Because of the Rust Shooting [link to www.msn.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84044433 United States 08/21/2022 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Walls close in on Alec Baldwin as his gun lie falls apart === Criminal charges, jail time, and the loss of all his money Alec Baldwin Just Got Fired From a Movie Because of the Rust Shooting Quoting: nutmeg [link to www.msn.com (secure)] Of course he was, he won't be able to follow through with this movie contract because he'll be in prison for the next two decades or so. Good I hope he rots there....Bye bye Alec Pikey. |