If TIME is a human construct then.... | |
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Mr. Tiger Blood User ID: 79688307 United States 08/18/2022 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Change is real. The "permanent" is the illusion. Last Edited by High Desert Cat on 08/18/2022 11:27 AM AKA Tiger Blood |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79677917 United States 08/18/2022 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whether you call an hour 60 minutes or 100 years, time (t) mis your constant. It works on every quantifiable level we can determine. What you're discussing is really human scale and perception of time, the first of which was explained and the second of which has no more to do with actual time (universal constant) and subjective experience of time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83248240 United States 08/18/2022 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dates are meaningless. Cycles would be the way to tell one catastrophe from another. Quoting: Always Looking Earth cycles, cosmic cycles etc.... so actually predicting doom based on a date is a waste of TIME which doesn't exist. Thoughts? Time as we have developed it is real for us. It serves the purpose. Your logic is silly to me. So we just don't try to have a measuring tool to use? The Indians would use moon cycles and vegetation to tell stories. First moon after yellow leaves is Thanksgiving |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81622398 United States 08/18/2022 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time as the sequentiality of phenomena definitely exists. Quoting: Mr. Tiger Blood Now the experience of it... Objective and subjective time... The measurement of time... That is another matter. Yeah the 24hr, 7 day, 365 day/year is legit and observable. Through motion of the stars, planets, moon etc. But the year date is definitely in question. Is it really 2022? Relative to what exactly? |
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Always Looking (OP) User ID: 83946881 United States 08/18/2022 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dates are meaningless. Cycles would be the way to tell one catastrophe from another. Quoting: Always Looking Earth cycles, cosmic cycles etc.... so actually predicting doom based on a date is a waste of TIME which doesn't exist. Thoughts? Time as we have developed it is real for us. It serves the purpose. Your logic is silly to me. So we just don't try to have a measuring tool to use? The Indians would use moon cycles and vegetation to tell stories. First moon after yellow leaves is Thanksgiving No I understand different cultures have tools to measure time or the passage of time. But the prediction of events based on a certain date because of the number sequence is meaningless. Truth and Facts - The two words liberals hate most! Suffering is burning emotional energy on the uncontrollable! The architect of the universe did not build a stairway to nowhere! |
Always Looking (OP) User ID: 83946881 United States 08/18/2022 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time as the sequentiality of phenomena definitely exists. Quoting: Mr. Tiger Blood Now the experience of it... Objective and subjective time... The measurement of time... That is another matter. Yeah the 24hr, 7 day, 365 day/year is legit and observable. Through motion of the stars, planets, moon etc. But the year date is definitely in question. Is it really 2022? Relative to what exactly? Exactly. If the earth is 4 billion years old the date of 2022 makes no sense. Truth and Facts - The two words liberals hate most! Suffering is burning emotional energy on the uncontrollable! The architect of the universe did not build a stairway to nowhere! |
Mr. Tiger Blood User ID: 79688307 United States 08/18/2022 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time as the sequentiality of phenomena definitely exists. Quoting: Mr. Tiger Blood Now the experience of it... Objective and subjective time... The measurement of time... That is another matter. Yeah the 24hr, 7 day, 365 day/year is legit and observable. Through motion of the stars, planets, moon etc. But the year date is definitely in question. Is it really 2022? Relative to what exactly? Well, we can't really accurately date Christ's birth so the Christian calendar is b.s. to some extent. The Gregorian reforms made it very accurate though as far as the earth's position around the sun. The Julian calendar of Sisogenes was actually pretty amazing for the time! AKA Tiger Blood |
Mother Maggie User ID: 84007494 United States 08/18/2022 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dates are meaningless. Cycles would be the way to tell one catastrophe from another. Quoting: Always Looking Earth cycles, cosmic cycles etc.... so actually predicting doom based on a date is a waste of TIME which doesn't exist. Thoughts? time on this planet is time on this planet.. it is not the time of all the creation which does go thru cycles and so does earth.. but time relative to the planet is measured on all planets ... with human life on them. Last Edited by Mother Maggie on 08/18/2022 11:55 AM Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO |
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Mr. Tiger Blood User ID: 79688307 United States 08/18/2022 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time as the sequentiality of phenomena definitely exists. Quoting: Mr. Tiger Blood Now the experience of it... Objective and subjective time... The measurement of time... That is another matter. Didnt you just post a vid of a plastic bag in the wind, going OMG UFO!!! Dont listen to this guy kids. You must have amazing vision to be able to tell that was a plastic bag from the TikTok video. And "kids"... I thought our country club was for grown-up's only. Why not let the ADULTS of GLP make up their own mind about things? AKA Tiger Blood |
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Common Centz User ID: 80878951 United States 08/18/2022 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time as the sequentiality of phenomena definitely exists. Quoting: Mr. Tiger Blood Now the experience of it... Objective and subjective time... The measurement of time... That is another matter. This is correct. Time is a PERCEPTUAL CONSTRUCT applicable to all sentient beings with the ability to perceive spatial/temporal dimensions. Time/Space is inseparable from Consciousness as neither can exist without the other. 2 sides of the same coin. |
Always Looking (OP) User ID: 83946881 United States 08/18/2022 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time as the sequentiality of phenomena definitely exists. Quoting: Mr. Tiger Blood Now the experience of it... Objective and subjective time... The measurement of time... That is another matter. This is correct. Time is a PERCEPTUAL CONSTRUCT applicable to all sentient beings with the ability to perceive spatial/temporal dimensions. Time/Space is inseparable from Consciousness as neither can exist without the other. 2 sides of the same coin. Good stuff here! Truth and Facts - The two words liberals hate most! Suffering is burning emotional energy on the uncontrollable! The architect of the universe did not build a stairway to nowhere! |
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themessengernevermatters User ID: 81040102 08/18/2022 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Though astrology gets a bad wrap from a lot of people, it originally; going back to the first civilizations, was a system by which they were tracking cycles of varying length in time. In the ancient civilizations you had sages and scribes that did nothing but study the stars in the sky every night and mark down what was going on in the civilization at the time. Over the generations they saw patterns and cycles starting to emerge. Just because time as a measuring system is man made, you don't necessarily have to throw out the baby with the bathwater, because you would be throwing out thousands of years of concrete observation by humans. And then you would go from having a maybe slightly faulty system of observing the cycles, to having no system at all. Last Edited by themessengernevermatters on 08/18/2022 01:08 PM “The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.” Elena Gorokhova, A Mountain of Crumbs |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75679511 United States 08/18/2022 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly my point, you believe in dumb shit, your foundations are skewed. If understanding plastic is a challenge, time will never be within your reach. Please feel free to enlighten us all with your notions on "time". Whats there to debate? Time exist as much as an inch does. |
Mother Maggie User ID: 84007494 United States 08/18/2022 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time does not exist in the creation except where HUMANS need to measure some time by seasons and such... we live always in the eternal now otherwise. Because no matter what time is measured on planets with people... none of it matches and its always the eternal now. Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO |
Mr. Tiger Blood User ID: 79688307 United States 08/18/2022 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time does not exist in the creation except where HUMANS need to measure some time by seasons and such... Quoting: Mother Maggie we live always in the eternal now otherwise. Because no matter what time is measured on planets with people... none of it matches and its always the eternal now. A guru appears... AKA Tiger Blood |
The Game Of Life User ID: 80878951 United States 08/18/2022 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time does not exist in the creation except where HUMANS need to measure some time by seasons and such... Quoting: Mother Maggie we live always in the eternal now otherwise. Because no matter what time is measured on planets with people... none of it matches and its always the eternal now. A guru appears... She is actually not totally wrong IMHO. I would make some slight corrections as per my previous post. Time is a perceptual construct applicable to ALL sentient beings, not just humans. Outside of perception, all space and time possibilities, including past, present and future, exist simultaneously, sided by side. This would be the "Eternal Now". Consider this... When you play a video game, all possible realities are already written in a coded form of information, before you ever play the game. All possible paths and realities in that game exist at once, from beginning to end. That would be the state of "Singularity" or "Eternal Now". Only when you actively participate in the game does linear time/space unfold according to the choices you make during the duration of play/perception. This does not mean the other realities that you did not experience in the game do not exist in the video game code. It simply means you did not choose the particular path to experience those particle sets of coded information. This is very similar to how parallel realities exist side by side even though we do not experience them all. What we experience is entirely dependent upon our choices and perceived consequences of those choices. A different player may experience an entirely different set of variables while still playing the same game. Computers are modeled after reality which is why they can give us great insight as to the true nature of the UNIverse. Good thread OP! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79529814 Estonia 08/18/2022 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep, dates have no meaning other then for humans. Cycles in nature is what counts Dates have a small affect on our life, as dates themselves operate in cycles in nature, but humans confuse how dates and cycles on earth are intertwined. So i always ignore dates, they mean nothing in the universe, and always will do. Its cycles that matter, and what that means for people on earth. |
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