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So to put to rest the question of if UV-C radiation is reaching the surface of the earth, and how much...

 
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Wouldn't it be just as likely that your meter is poor quality or not correctly calibrated? Seems unlikely that all the scientists in the world could be convinced, to hide the truth about UVC
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lol its not the scientists its those hand rubbers who own the tv stations and internet that wont allow it to be aired. we know factually there are thousands of doctors. 70,000 alone in americas frontline doctors that signed on saying the vax is bad and ivermectin treats covid etc, but we know how that went on deaf ears due to the tv and internet owned by these people.
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scheming Oh Goy! The planet will be ours.

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Re: So to put to rest the question of if UV-C radiation is reaching the surface of the earth, and how much...
For years I have read an internet thread by a fellow who has a multi decade career in cpmputers. This fellow recounted, st the time of occurance, how the sun ejected a CME (Coronal Mass Ejection) that struck Earth and blew off a portion of our upper atmosphere (Ozones' home address, not all, just a large amt). And subsequently, this allowed UVC to reach down to the surface of the Earth. Hence ALL the effects noted in previous posts. All of which I too experience. Stinging of skin and not the delicious warmth I formerly experienced while in the Sunlight. etc. Oh well...not much we can do about it. The utter silence of the Scientific community in this matter is, dare I say it, EVIL.
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It pairs nicely with their utter silence in regards to the mRNA vaccine issues, I daresay.
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Will try it out tomorrow and post the results here and on the other thread around 1:00 p.m., after I take the daily reading. How’s that for service?
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That's a great service indeed. Can I have some fries with that?
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So glad I'm not a Caucasian. This melanin kissed skin of mine feels GREAT even spending hours in the sun!

Burn demons burn!!

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You're not immune.
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Anybody over 50 can CLEARLY see the sun is white now. It used to be more yellow.

I am a person who spends a great deal of time outside. The sun has changed, period.
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Will try it out tomorrow and post the results here and on the other thread around 1:00 p.m., after I take the daily reading. How’s that for service?
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That's a great service indeed. Can I have some fries with that?
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Makes me want to watch the movie "Knowing"

If you know you know....yikes
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In the 1800s no one was trying to clean up the air or destroy the Ozone layer by blowing up nuclear bombs, even shooting them up to as far as they could in the air operation fish bowl, US and USSR did this. They did this after going to Antarctica for some reason only they know and we guess. Also, they made antenna arrays in Alaska, high amounts of electricity are gathered there, they focus beams up and they are most likely the ones who blew a hole in the OZONE. Just a miscalculation that how they say sorry we goofed. Then they turn around and blame the people for using aerosols in hairspray. I think these people need to take a deep breath and back up until we go back to putting things back into the upper OZONE, don't be spraying crap through the air from planes and other things. If they want to destroy us and themselves, they are making a bang-up lot of mess already. Taking CO2 out is about the dumbest thing they ever started, dummies. Don't make fake sun they cause a lot of damage, if any are up there shoot them down.
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Anybody over 50 can CLEARLY see the sun is white now. It used to be more yellow.

I am a person who spends a great deal of time outside. The sun has changed, period.
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Ditto.
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Strangely, I have found the sun is less damaging to my skin at the minute. I am covered in freckles so maybe they are helping
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Same here-fair skinned, freckled. Been working in the yard all day at least once a week shorts tank top and i get burned good and what once would have led to a headache and a painful burn followed by blistering is now just a 'meh' and fine and tan the next day. I did start taking ZMA, bee pollen, and trace minerals in my water for these workdays, though.
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Re: So to put to rest the question of if UV-C radiation is reaching the surface of the earth, and how much...
It's not the sun, it is right on its scheduled path ... it is what they are putting in our atmosphere that has weaponized the suns rays

don't ask me why, but barrium is in all the solutions that they spray on us, and it is radiation ... not to forget how much radiation FUshima is STILL dumping into the atmosphere

what we are experiencing is the cumulitive effect of man - weaponizing Nature so they can blame it on Nature and not be held accountable

they have been telling us to stay out of direct sunlight for over a decade ... and you believe that putting carcinogens (sun blocker) all over your body will protect you from radiations - you believe that the SUN which sustains life - is a killer

which just proves how successfully you have been PROGRAMED

keep on drinking and bathing in the tap water and eating your GMOs ... and trusting science
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Re: So to put to rest the question of if UV-C radiation is reaching the surface of the earth, and how much...
Nitrous oxide, N2O, is growing in the atmosphere as shown in this graphic: [link to gml.noaa.gov (secure)]
This is happening because of the weakening of the geomagnetic field as you can read bellow.

New York Times
Feb. 19, 1976
About 700,000 years ago the earth's magnetic field reversed its polarity, weakening the magnetic forces that shield the earth and its atmosphere from a substantial portion of solar and cosmic radiation.
The resultant heavy bombardment of solar rays, possibly coupled with the occurrence of solar flares, caused excessive amounts of nitric oxide to form in the high atmosphere. The nitric oxide, in a well‐known catalytic reaction, in turn destroyed part of the ozone shield above the earth.
[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

The increasing levels of NO and NO2 are a indication of weakening magnetic field and cause the drop of ozone levels! They know this since 50 years ago, but they are not telling anything now!

The so called "scientists" are blaming the fertilizers for the increasing levels of N2O and now they are baning fertilizers, which will lead to famine.

Over the past 150 years, increasing atmospheric N2O concentrations have contributed to stratospheric ozone depletion and climate change, with the current rate of increase estimated at 2 per cent per decade.
Global human-induced emissions, which are dominated by nitrogen additions to croplands, increased by 30% over the past four decades.
The recent growth in N2O emissions exceeds some of the highest projected emission scenarios, underscoring the urgency to mitigate N2O emissions.
[link to www.nature.com (secure)]

They blame fertilizers instead of the real cause, the weakening geomagnetic field!
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Re: So to put to rest the question of if UV-C radiation is reaching the surface of the earth, and how much...
something to do with energy coming from the center of the galaxy.
sun will react to it in a paranormal way.
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The Sun is already reacting to 'forces' we can't see.
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Read this article
[link to www.scientificamerican.com (secure)]
The Sun Is Spitting Out Strange Patterns of Gamma Rays—and No One Knows Why
The discovery, although mysterious, might provide a new window into the depths of our most familiar star
'The team speculates these gamma rays are likely emitted when powerful cosmic rays—produced throughout the universe by violent astrophysical events like supernovae and colliding neutron stars—slam into the sun’s surface."

Betelgeuse is going supernova and the sun is reacting.
Thread: Hubble Sees Red Supergiant Star Betelgeuse Slowly Recovering After Blowing Its Top 400 billion times as much mass as a typical CME of the Sun!!!

Geomagnetic field is collapsing and Betelgeuse is going supernova.
Thread: A star in Orion will go critical in 2022 like in 1604 and burst like Orion is firing a arrow firing a gamma ray burst
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Re: So to put to rest the question of if UV-C radiation is reaching the surface of the earth, and how much...
Reading the info and watching the videos provided in these two threads has confirmed my suspicions. Around 2014 is when I began limiting my sun exposure because of it's effects on my body, and that's when UVC is documented to be present at ground level.

Too bad there's two threads, it's hectic to keep up with and there's important info in both.

We're in trouble.

Been in the sun all my life, now I'm avoiding it.

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[link to www.researchgate.net (secure)]

Important reading from the other thread....
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I have NEVER felt a “sting” while in the sun…never. Perhaps you are overly sensitive? Never !
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You must not go out much. Takes about 4-5 seconds of standing still.

Yes men with beards with live much longer than women because beard protects thyroid. Only women who are locked up in basements will survive.
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Re: So to put to rest the question of if UV-C radiation is reaching the surface of the earth, and how much...
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Location: NW New Jersey, USA - Lat. 41°
Altitude: 600’ ASL
Air temperature: 83°F
Relative humidity: 27%
Sky conditions: clear w/few scattered cumulus
Wind: calm
Sun altitude above horizon: 59°

UV-C reading: 36uW/cm² *(note below)
===============================

Above reading taken at 10 minutes after astronomical noon.
All readings taken with General UVC Digital Light Meter No. UV512C, range 220nm to 275nm.

*Note: yesterday evening a poster asked, in the interests of accuracy and to dispel doubts, if I would be willing to arrange for a shield for the sensor, in order to make certain that no possible spurious UVC was coming in from another source (whatever that might be) apart from the Sun:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

I agreed to do this, and this afternoon attached a cardboard tube, 11” in length and 1-1/2” in diameter, to the sensor, making sure that it was perpendicular to it. I took the first reading with the tube attached, aiming it carefully at the Sun using it’s shadow as an alignment guide. Off-axis, the sensor was picking up only 2-3 mw/cm² of UVC energy, but once it was aligned, and the sunlight was falling directly down the tube onto the sensor, the readings went to 34mw/cm².

I then removed the tube shield and took a reading in the manner that those here have been doing since we began. The sensor now indicated a reading of 36mw/cm². This might be attributable to sky shine, the slight diffusion of the rays in the atmosphere, but more likely as reflection from the few fair-weather cumulus clouds that were visible 20° to 30° away from the Sun.

2mw/cm² isn’t much difference in reading, but were there more cumulus present, it might have had much greater effect. In the interests of accuracy, it might be good form to shield the sensor for all our readings.

Your thoughts?
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[link to www.researchgate.net (secure)]

Important reading from the other thread....
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I posted both of these papers in one of the early pages in the thread. Lots of good info back there.
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Re: So to put to rest the question of if UV-C radiation is reaching the surface of the earth, and how much...
Mainstream science states that UV-C, the most destructive wavelength range in solar radiation, never reaches the surface of the planet and is filtered out by atmospheric ozone.

Well I purchased a UV-C light meter to see if that is the truth. The answer is a resounding NO.

My first reading in afternoon sun here in the desert southwest was 27 microwatts/cm2. I am guessing that high noon sun would probably produce roughly double that.

To put that into perspective, the below is the chart of maximum exposure times based on UV-C irradiance:

Permissible exposure time * Effective irradiance

(seconds) (uW/cm2)
28800 0.10
14400 0.21
7200 0.42
3600 0.83
1800 1.67
900 3.33
600 5.00
300 10.00
60 50.00
30 100.00
10 300.00
3 1000.00
1 3000.00
0.5 6000.00
0.3 10000.00
0.1 30000.00

At 27 uW/cm2, your max exposure time is about 2.5 minutes before it starts damaging your cells.

To give you another example, I have an LED UV-C sterilization lamp, and it produces 20 microwatts/cm2. The sun was producing even more UV-C than my pretty intense UV-C sterilization lamp when shined directly onto the sensor.

Notice that the sun feels hotter these days and the sting comes on much faster than it did many years ago? That's the UV-C destroying your skin cells.

Imagine what it is doing to everything else that isn't shielded from the sun outside? Would be interesting to hear how everyone's open air uncovered garden is doing this year.

So that puts it to rest. UV-C is most definitely reaching ground level, which means something is very wrong with the atmospheric ozone that is supposed to completely filter it out.

UPDATE: Took another reading during the noon hour on a partly cloudy day today. 38 microwatts/cm2.

EQUIPMENT:

[link to generaltools.com (secure)]

Specifications:

Measurement ranges: 1 to 9999 μW/cm2 (low) and 0.01 to 40 mW/cm2 (high)
Measurement accuracy: ±(4% of reading +1 digit)
Spectral range: 220 to 275 nm
Calibration point: 254 nm
Sampling time: 0.3 seconds
Memory capacity: 20 measurements, plus 1 for interval time
Interval time options: 1, 2, 5, 10 and 30 seconds and 1, 3, 5 and 10 minutes
Operating temperature: 32° to 122°F (0° to 50°C) @< 90% RH
Weight: 3.2 oz. (90g)
Power source: "9V" battery (included)

THREAD OBSERVATIONS:

Central Arizona: 27-38 uW/cm2
Northwest New Jersey: 28-39 uW/cm2
Central Florida: 42-49 uW/cm2
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Keep spreading the word, I wrote a thread just like this in July, the more we spread the word the more people will be able to prepare.
Thread: The reason our Gardens are failing is UVC

Last Edited by Storm2come on 08/27/2022 03:17 PM
Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116

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Location: NW New Jersey, USA - Lat. 41°
Altitude: 600’ ASL
Air temperature: 83°F
Relative humidity: 27%
Sky conditions: clear w/few scattered cumulus
Wind: calm
Sun altitude above horizon: 59°

UV-C reading: 36uW/cm² *(note below)
===============================

Above reading taken at 10 minutes after astronomical noon.
All readings taken with General UVC Digital Light Meter No. UV512C, range 220nm to 275nm.

*Note: yesterday evening a poster asked, in the interests of accuracy and to dispel doubts, if I would be willing to arrange for a shield for the sensor, in order to make certain that no possible spurious UVC was coming in from another source (whatever that might be) apart from the Sun:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

I agreed to do this, and this afternoon attached a cardboard tube, 11” in length and 1-1/2” in diameter, to the sensor, making sure that it was perpendicular to it. I took the first reading with the tube attached, aiming it carefully at the Sun using it’s shadow as an alignment guide. Off-axis, the sensor was picking up only 2-3 mw/cm² of UVC energy, but once it was aligned, and the sunlight was falling directly down the tube onto the sensor, the readings went to 34mw/cm².

I then removed the tube shield and took a reading in the manner that those here have been doing since we began. The sensor now indicated a reading of 36mw/cm². This might be attributable to sky shine, the slight diffusion of the rays in the atmosphere, but more likely as reflection from the few fair-weather cumulus clouds that were visible 20° to 30° away from the Sun.

2mw/cm² isn’t much difference in reading, but were there more cumulus present, it might have had much greater effect. In the interests of accuracy, it might be good form to shield the sensor for all our readings.

Your thoughts?
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Personally I think <10% differences in readings don't make all too much of a difference if levels are already astronomically higher than they should be, but it's down to you guys with the meter's. Appreciate all of this greatly. I don't think UVC is anywhere this bad where I live but its still put me off my occasional long 15+ mile walks to a village pub for some exercise and beers in the heat of the day.

I think I've got enough Vitamin D loaded up through the Sun to last the rest of the year now anyway.

It certainly gives more credence to the "chemtrail" phenomena than any of the previous explainations. And infact I rarely saw them or whispy cloud-covered skies here, but this year it's certainly more common.
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Anyone Remember that solar observatory that got raided by the fbi a few years ago and nobody knew why? People were speculating about mercury theft.
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Sunspot, just outside Cloudcroft, New Mexico. Was just there a few weeks ago.
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The sun changed from yellow to white. We grew up with it we know what it used to look and feel like and what it looks and feels like now.

[link to www.scienceabc.com (secure)]

Our sun is a "White Binary Dwarf" as shown in this chart.
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The sun is now white, where it used to be yellow. Good thread, I am starting to understand why!
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here is my thread on the magnetosphere failing it has some good information about all of this:

Thread: They are preparing for the magnetosphere failure

Starlink is their secret attempt to create an artificial magnetosphere around our planet:

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The sun changed from yellow to white. We grew up with it we know what it used to look and feel like and what it looks and feels like now.

[link to www.scienceabc.com (secure)]

Our sun is a "White Binary Dwarf" as shown in this chart.
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White dwarfs are what is left when stars like our sun have exhausted all of their fuel.
Compared to our sun (opens in new tab), a white dwarf has a similar carbon and oxygen mass though it is much smaller in size — similar to Earth (opens in new tab), according to New Mexico State University (opens in new tab) (NMSU).
If the companion is another white dwarf instead of an active star, the two stellar corpses merge together (opens in new tab) to kick off the fireworks. This process is known as a "double-degenerate model" of a Type 1a supernova.
At other times, the white dwarf may pull just enough material from its companion to briefly ignite in a nova, a far smaller explosion. Because the white dwarf remains intact, it can repeat the process several times when it reaches that critical point, breathing life back into the dying star over and over again.
"These are the brightest and most frequent stellar eruptions in the galaxy, and they're often visible to the naked eye."
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You lame ass duck!

Why don't you post a YouTube video where you measure uv c

You won't because you are a entertaining



Fraud clown!
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You lame ass duck!

Why don't you post a YouTube video where you measure uv c

You won't because you are a entertaining



Fraud clown!
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OP of the other thread posted this, where he is taking readings:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Run along now.
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You lame ass duck!

Why don't you post a YouTube video where you measure uv c

You won't because you are a entertaining



Fraud clown!
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People have been posting videos of their UVC readings reaching Earth for many years now (8 or so).

Maybe investigate a bit or at least kindly ask for a video before calling someone a fraud?
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The sun changed from yellow to white. We grew up with it we know what it used to look and feel like and what it looks and feels like now.

[link to www.scienceabc.com (secure)]

Our sun is a "White Binary Dwarf" as shown in this chart.
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White dwarfs are what is left when stars like our sun have exhausted all of their fuel.
Compared to our sun (opens in new tab), a white dwarf has a similar carbon and oxygen mass though it is much smaller in size — similar to Earth (opens in new tab), according to New Mexico State University (opens in new tab) (NMSU).
If the companion is another white dwarf instead of an active star, the two stellar corpses merge together (opens in new tab) to kick off the fireworks. This process is known as a "double-degenerate model" of a Type 1a supernova.
At other times, the white dwarf may pull just enough material from its companion to briefly ignite in a nova, a far smaller explosion. Because the white dwarf remains intact, it can repeat the process several times when it reaches that critical point, breathing life back into the dying star over and over again.
"These are the brightest and most frequent stellar eruptions in the galaxy, and they're often visible to the naked eye."
[link to www.space.com (secure)]
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The moon is a Black Dwarf dead star. Black Sun. The current Sun is now in its White Dwarf face, before death, Black Sun. They are binarys that revolve around Earth. Everything revolves around earth:

Type Medium dot com and add this afterwards, it wont let me post it for some weird reason, lol:
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