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OP, the Rapture doesn't make any spiritual sense, or even simply common sense.

How could God who is praised for having the most pure love for us will then turn vengeful to judge and severely punish those who disobey or displease God.

So why the concept of Tribulation and Rapture is so popular?

Going through a life full of hardships and adversities will make anyone desperate to yearn to leave here and go to a paradise alongside God.

It is then understandable that many will wholeheartedly believe in the Tribulation and Rapture. They wanted God to severely punish those who had caused them suffering and harm, and to be selected as the Chosen Ones to be taken away to a beautiful serene Heaven as a reward for their devotion before the Earth is scorched.

They have humanized God to behave badly, having immature human attributes of anger and vengeance.

God is neither human nor behaves like a human.

The caring and compassionate God is pure unconditional love. Meaning God loves all of us equally without any conditions, regardless if we are believers or not, sinners or not.

To love some and not others is conditional love, which is not love at all but a form of deception, manipulation, and control over others.

The Rapture and Tribulation is what many wanted, and so their human biases have turned God to be dysfunctional just like us.

Not a criticism, only to highlight at our current state of awareness that is how we will naturally think. Until we move further along the spiritual path to pure love and start to see the bigger picture. The bigger picture of who we truly are and why we are here.

There will be a time when we will look back and say this was a period of grave immaturity and barbarism. Wishing harm, suffering, and even death on anyone.

It is all part of humanity evolving spiritually, to having the wisdom and benevolent maturity to make better choices that align with love and to treat each other and everything with more caring, kindness, understanding, and respect.

No Satan here, just humans here purposely at the infancy of spirituality coupled with free will to freely choose between light or dark.

All the best!

This portion of Revelation 12 does not refer to the Church, but to the elect of Israel--the 144,000 Israelites. The 144,000 together form the woman of Revelation 12. The ministry of the 144000 will produce Christians who are perfect like Jesus Christ (Ep. 5:27, 1 Jn. 3:2). The set of perfect Christians together form the man child. God declares the perfect Christians to be His sons by the resurrection (Ro. 1:4). That is the birth of the man child (Re. 12:5). Few days after the resurrection, the man child is snatched up to heaven--the rapture. The 144000, whose ministry will give rise to the perfect Christians, will not participate in the rapture. Satan, having failed to stop Christians from reaching perfection and hence adoption as sons of God, will go after the 144000. But God will give the 14400 wings of eagles and they will fly to the place prepared for them, where they will be taken care of for 42 months.

We transfigure at the LAST trump...

Leaving AND returning.

A magnetic shift, not a reversal that caters to the doom and gloom crowd.

You would think that if there was a rapture it would have happened before the distribution of the poison. My Lutheran father died after he “drank the kool aide” . I wasn’t even allowed to see him. The whole congregation took it.

Another observation. You rapture people are rude. You won’t even address my comments. Yah I have read Revelation 12. So what? You won’t even discuss things with me? I don’t really like you supposed Christians. You are mean.

As much as people despise the Jesuits, they had nothing to do with this one. It was Scofield all the way.

this ^^ and Rapture is why most people (including lukewarm Christians) are going to Hell.


That being said, a few of us recognize what God told us would happen in the last days... and a realitive few of us will endure to the end for our salvation... yep and Amen.

There has to be something. Is it beyond God to take the bride away???? NO. I don't get people so so worried about the Lord taking people away. Like Enoch. Why??? The worry is almost demonic in my thoughts. Like no way you will you not suffer with us. Its like TDS. Seems to always be a huge worry. Really if Rapture happens wahoo. We are with the Lord. If not then we go through tribulation. So why worry with all the crazy stuff in the world about such stuff? I am really asking. If your name in the book of life as ours then why????????? Don;t be a nut.

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Jesus taught us to love thy neighbor.

Not love thy neighbor only if he or she is a Christian and in agreement with us.

Yes, it is not easy to love our "enemies" that don't have the same perspectives as our own.

And so, could a person who has not embrace loving his enemies be one of the Chosen Ones for Rapture?

Judge and be judged. There will always be someone who believes he is more righteous than you, and will wish you Hell for being deceived. What a vicious cycle.

All that said, why would God need to do Tribulation when God has the ability to instantly transform evil people to become benevolent?

Free will.

God waits with immense patience for us to choose to grow up. We, being the stubborn creatures that we are, often don't want to see or heed God's divine nudges and will continue to dwell comfortably in the ego because it is easy and convenient. Much easier to hate than to love.

At our state of awareness, rarely are the easy choices the better choices.

all to the priesthood...the 144k are ALL from the priesthood. GOD sent Paul to you for a reason. Only Paul address rapture, the body of Christ or salvation by faith alone through grace. Romans thru Philemons are for the body of Christ ie: Christians.

Paul does not address rapture at all. Please stop lying. Demonstrate your case with His Scriptures. You can not.

Hence you are a deciver and decieved

So sad. To see the unclean spirit coming out of those who claim to be believers.

Bless you . Move on forgive them. But lift tge issue to Abba. He will deal with it.

Amen YAHshua

You are not diviiding His Word correctly or by His Spirit. I suggest you ask the Holy Spirit to be your teacher. Not men and their doctrines non sctiptural

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I have adressed them and ill gladly adress them again.

Ezekiel 36, Romans 11. Does it say the J ish people are forgotten by God? No, on the contrary. But in lutheran theology you are not taught that, which means you think everything including the tribulation is about the church.

However, the bible is written from the perspective of the j people, it was a SURPRICE when non j got saved (even though Isaiah 49:5-6 etc tells of this). Israel, the j people, will get turned BACK to God during the tribulation, that is what its about, its AFTER the rapture of the church when we are no longer here, and God shifts his focus back to the j people. In addition, people from across the world will get saved during the tribulation, these are the TRIBULATION SAINTS. They are a DIFFERENT GROUP from the church.

THESE are who revelation 12 speaks of. If you read my post, you would know.

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That's incorrect.

They believe in another Jesus and another bible. No where in mine is there any sort of reference to a rapture.. even the very word is occult in origin.

Nope, not my brothers or sisters, not fellow Christians at all..

See my sig below to read what Jesus had to say about taking people our of this world!

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What if the Tribulation and Rapture are not what we believe they are.

The Tribulation period is God revealing to us globally with extreme clarity the harms and corruptions the dark has been doing to us for ages, and allowing in more light than ever before to make light more prominent moving forward. Chaos and hardships will naturally intensify as the dark will do its evilest to hold onto their dwindling powers. Not the end of the world, but the end of evil reigning.

The Rapture period is when humanity, being made fully aware of the dark's malice, will unite and want to change for the better by choosing love instead of harming and killing each other. It is humans evolving spiritually to become wiser and more benevolently mature, more able to cohabitate in peace and harmony. It is us treating each other with more care, kindness, understanding, and respect that will create paradise here on Earth.

In other words, Earth will not be destroyed and we all will still be here spiritually evolving at our own personal pace towards love, but now in an environment where light has the upper hand and the dark will be much less dominate unlike before.

This is all happening now for some years and will be so for a few decades. A long process that requires our patience as the spiritual change will need time. It won't be quick as turning on a light switch as many hope, because the deep malicious mind conditioning the dark has done to us will need time to undo.

Thats not what the bible says. Christians deal with what the bible says which has proven itself trough prophecy, not make belief. And this is prophecy, we know its coming, like we know from Ezekiel 36 that Israel would become a nation again and that the j people would return to Israel as unbelievers.

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Rapture-tards, worse than flat-earthers

Could you stomach watching someone being BBQ in a lake of fire?

Op... Ask The Father about the Pre-Trib Rapture.

As you should know, things that God gives His people depend on faith. If you don't have the faith for a pre-trib rapture, then more than likely it's not going to happen for you.

Maybe you were brought up as a Christian in a church that preaches that there will not be a pre-trib rapture... But to find out for sure, I would ask God.

Because it would truly suck if you were still here after all of your Christian friends and probably your family as well are gone.

Good Luck.

LOL go on fight about it. It is what it is. You are a shame to the Lord I think. Paul went through such things. haha.

He sure does. You are totally ignorant of God’s Word or the liar here.

Amos 9:10
All the sinners of My people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.

Prevent = Go Before

John 17:15
I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.


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Pre-tribbers will not be accounted worthy to escape in one of the assemblies of Zion during the hour of Temptation. Revelation 3:10

Isaiah 4:5
And the LORD will create upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a defence.

The pre-tribulation doctrine is the most profitable doctrine of christendumb.

If you tickle my ears, tell me what I want to hear, you can make merchandise of me.

Coming in His name and deceiving many.

The Great Escape

Micah 7:15

According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I shew unto him marvellous things.

16 The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might: they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf. (Jeremiah 30:7) Jacob's Trouble, He shall be saved out of it.

Isaiah 4:5

And YHWH will create upon every dwelling place of Mount Zion, and upon her assemblieS, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a defence.


Obadiah 1:21

And saviourS shall come up on Mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be YHWH's.

Revelation 14:1

And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the Mount Zion, and with Him an hundred forty and four thousand, having His Father's Name written in their foreheads.

Jeremiah 3:14

Turn, O backsliding children, saith YHWH; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:

The Number of Assemblies Worldwide, 72,000

Saviours - Deliverers, the Pattern - Moses and Aaron.

Ecclesiastes 3:15

That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and Elohim requireth that which is past.

Exodus 19:4

Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto Myself.

Exodus 13:21

And YHWH went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night:

Revelation 12:14

And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

two wings of a great eagle = a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night

Jeremiah 16:14

Therefore, behold, the days come, saith YHWH, that it shall no more be said, YHWH liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

15 But, YHWH liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither He had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers.

Ezekiel 20:33

As I live, saith Adonai YHWH, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:

34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.

35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.

36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith Adonai YHWH.

37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:

38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against Me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I Am YHWH.

Luke 21:36

Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before The Son of Man.

Remember Lot's wife.
Luke 17:32

1 Corinthians 10:1

Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

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Who are you refering to?

I personally follow no church or theologian.

Nope. Your declarations mean nothing.

God and His Son look at the hearts of men.