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Why to avoid LINUX

 
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1. Linus Torvalds got infected by the woke virus and his mind might be subject to extremist ideologies

2. He prefers functionality over security and his kernel is too big, buggy and it seriously sucks in many ways

3. Even Windows 10 does better kernel security than Linux 4.x (Windows NT team changed their bug tracking and follow up after two decades of failures)

4. Linus Torvalds does not know how to install a Linux distribution. Find the interviews. He is only a kernel guy. He runs simple things like Red hat ... he can't maintain systems

Who knows who else watching his own 'secure' system in real time...

5. He had unbased battles with gr who did actual kernel security

6. Linux used to be 300k lines of code. Now 5 million

7. Who knows how many developers are on some foreign pay roll to undermine things 'by accident' in their communities, introducing new bugs for a living while playing programming guy...

Get Hurd instead of Linux
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84053470



FreeBSD for the win!!

[link to www.freebsd.org (secure)]

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

...bump
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10/27/2022 10:54 PM
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Reduce the kernel to a micro-kernel have GPT-3 AI do it with the output in Ada and binary. Fire it up!
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10/28/2022 10:04 AM
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Let's come up to speed.

Hacked OS is irrelevant.

Back entry is built into most CPUs now at level far below OS.

When you bring home a new computer you are already hacked.

So go ahead and cheerlead your pointless (from security standpoint) OS. It doesn't matter anymore.

[link to www.sysjolt.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82719533


Yep, the government agencies are going to have access to your system regardless of what OS you are running.

The reason I use MX Linux is because it does everything I need on an older computer using much less resources than any other non Linux OS.
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Re: Why to avoid LINUX
Let's come up to speed.

Hacked OS is irrelevant.

Back entry is built into most CPUs now at level far below OS.

When you bring home a new computer you are already hacked.

So go ahead and cheerlead your pointless (from security standpoint) OS. It doesn't matter anymore.

[link to www.sysjolt.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82719533


Yep, the government agencies are going to have access to your system regardless of what OS you are running.

The reason I use MX Linux is because it does everything I need on an older computer using much less resources than any other non Linux OS.
 Quoting: MovesLikeJagger


True

If you're going to compute

Linux is the superior software at least

And if you're dedicacted you cna get a machine with Intel ME disabled.
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10/28/2022 10:19 AM
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Why you SHOULD use Linux:

1. Your only other options are Windows or Mac. Both horrible, full of back doors for the NSA etc.

2. There are about 1000 different versions of Linux, so you can't just lump them all together like it's one operating system.

3. Linux is OPEN SOURCE. When means anyone can see the code. This makes it safer as the govt cannot install back doors etc, that Windows and Mac are RIDDLED WITH.

4. Linus is FREE.

5. Linux has the built in security of asking for passwords for any changes made to the system.

I switched to Linux when the "Windows 10" garbage came out. I will never go back. I still use Windows at work because that's what they have there. Would never use Windows for person use or business use if I had my own business.
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Exactly. The points made by the OP are idiotic. Since when does Linus Torvalds have anything to do with most versions of linux? I've been running it since 2011 and I've never had any problems with malware or viruses anymore
mosiu

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10/28/2022 10:40 AM
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You could use Linux kernel or BSD kernel or Windows or iOS.

I like my Fedora Linux distribution and prefer GNOME desktop to Windows 11 desktop.

There can be however nice conspiracy there. I understand Open Source kernel, Open Source languages, open source ERP systems, because there ways to monetize them.

But the the hell writes GNOME, KDE, GIMP, Blender, LibreOffice or even Firefox ? Are they communists ?
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10/28/2022 10:51 AM
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what is this OP'sOS in the system76 and WHY SHOULD I use it,
instead of UBUNTO and WIN11????????????
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10/28/2022 10:58 AM
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But the the hell writes GNOME, KDE, GIMP, Blender, LibreOffice or even Firefox ? Are they communists ?
 Quoting: mosiu


I've always been suspicious that people develop these programs totally free of charge out of some belief in open source software and desire to donate their time, effort and expertise for no personal gain.

It's just not human nature, the vast majority of people only do something if there's a direct benefit to them. And developing software for free is hardly a "feel good" charitable endeavour, it's not exactly volunteering at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter.

My gut feeling is there's more than meets the eye with this "FOSS" software, but I'm not sure what exactly.
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10/28/2022 10:59 AM
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My kernel is fine
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im glad for you, but i dont know what a kernel is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71138365


then you are probably a sargeant

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10/28/2022 11:03 AM
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Re: Why to avoid LINUX
Retard.
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Do you understand the OPs claim?
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Yep, OP is retarded.
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10/28/2022 11:07 AM
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My kernel is fine
 Quoting: Florida Man


I bet I can hack it in 3 days at console without root knowledge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84053470


why would i let you have console access?

thats like saying "i can rob your bank if you unlock the vault".
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10/28/2022 11:11 AM
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My kernel is fine
 Quoting: Florida Man


I bet I can hack it in 3 days at console without root knowledge
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why would i let you have console access?

thats like saying "i can rob your bank if you unlock the vault".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68144191


and 3 days? it takes like 10 minutes to look up
the boot bypass instructions and reset root.

.
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windows is still shit for security

unless you use pro or enterprise and know how to use group policy and security policy
to lock the shit down

the defaults for "home" from XP to 11
are as wide open as they were in win 95

NTFS file ownership only applies to other windows users

with any liveCD,DVD,USB I can boot a windows system
and access all system and user files on any windows home version system

can't boot with a windows disc
and access any nix file system
mosiu

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10/28/2022 11:21 AM
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But the the hell writes GNOME, KDE, GIMP, Blender, LibreOffice or even Firefox ? Are they communists ?
 Quoting: mosiu


I've always been suspicious that people develop these programs totally free of charge out of some belief in open source software and desire to donate their time, effort and expertise for no personal gain.

It's just not human nature, the vast majority of people only do something if there's a direct benefit to them. And developing software for free is hardly a "feel good" charitable endeavour, it's not exactly volunteering at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter.

My gut feeling is there's more than meets the eye with this "FOSS" software, but I'm not sure what exactly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79466313


It is good question what really happens here. Sometimes I think it is actually core free market force that prices goes to near 0. Imagine you want to create new commercial web browser. You will not be able to sell it at $1 a piece unless you will do something mind breaking.
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10/28/2022 12:13 PM
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Re: Why to avoid LINUX
Every few months one of these anti Linux posts appears. Why is that what's the freaking point?
mosiu

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10/29/2022 07:53 AM
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Re: Why to avoid LINUX
BTW. Lot in not most of people use Linux kernel which is part of Android phone software.
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10/29/2022 07:59 AM
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Anybody out there remember XENIX ??? When I was a sys admin in early 80's Microsoft owned a port of unix and seriously considered Unix as their kernel but Gates sold it to SCO. I used to tech on Fortune systems that ran SCO Xenis and Sys 5 Unix.

I use Linux Mint 95% of the time for decades and it just runs. There are times when you need windows but Mint handles most jobs beautifully.
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10/29/2022 08:43 AM
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Alternatives to Linux with a security focus, huh.

Hurd? No. OpenBSD.
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This!
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10/29/2022 08:49 AM
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Alternatives to Linux with a security focus, huh.

Hurd? No. OpenBSD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82824820


This!
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Is it anything like FreeBSD?
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10/29/2022 08:51 AM
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My kernel is fine
 Quoting: Florida Man


I bet I can hack it in 3 days at console without root knowledge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84053470


you really should fuck off outside and go swing
adults are talking here
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Re: Why to avoid LINUX
Anybody out there remember XENIX ??? When I was a sys admin in early 80's Microsoft owned a port of unix and seriously considered Unix as their kernel but Gates sold it to SCO. I used to tech on Fortune systems that ran SCO Xenis and Sys 5 Unix.

I use Linux Mint 95% of the time for decades and it just runs. There are times when you need windows but Mint handles most jobs beautifully.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83862942


mint user for 4yrs now, have tried many flavours, but you are right mint just works flawlessly
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Re: Why to avoid LINUX
cat /dev/urandom > /dev/kmem
"Have a vision of life that inspires you, then try every day to grow closer to the fulfillment of that vision."

Deepak Chopra

Cetrified Moran on a Divine Mission !
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Re: Why to avoid LINUX
Windows it's great only if you like the blue screen of death.
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cat /dev/urandom > /dev/kmem
 Quoting: CetrifiedMoran


Root user should always have option to destroy system. Just in case AI will rebel. Or maybe AI writes linux kernel already ?
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Re: Why to avoid LINUX
1. Linus Torvalds got infected by the woke virus and his mind might be subject to extremist ideologies

2. He prefers functionality over security and his kernel is too big, buggy and it seriously sucks in many ways

3. Even Windows 10 does better kernel security than Linux 4.x (Windows NT team changed their bug tracking and follow up after two decades of failures)

4. Linus Torvalds does not know how to install a Linux distribution. Find the interviews. He is only a kernel guy. He runs simple things like Red hat ... he can't maintain systems

Who knows who else watching his own 'secure' system in real time...

5. He had unbased battles with gr who did actual kernel security

6. Linux used to be 300k lines of code. Now 5 million

7. Who knows how many developers are on some foreign pay roll to undermine things 'by accident' in their communities, introducing new bugs for a living while playing programming guy...

Get Hurd instead of Linux
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84053470

What is this "Hurd" that you speak of?
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10/29/2022 09:29 AM
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Re: Why to avoid LINUX
windows is still shit for security

unless you use pro or enterprise and know how to use group policy and security policy
to lock the shit down

the defaults for "home" from XP to 11
are as wide open as they were in win 95

NTFS file ownership only applies to other windows users

with any liveCD,DVD,USB I can boot a windows system
and access all system and user files on any windows home version system

can't boot with a windows disc
and access any nix file system
 Quoting: Red John


good luck trying to break thru boot encryption ;)
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Re: Why to avoid LINUX
Why you SHOULD use Linux:

1. Your only other options are Windows or Mac. Both horrible, full of back doors for the NSA etc.

2. There are about 1000 different versions of Linux, so you can't just lump them all together like it's one operating system.

3. Linux is OPEN SOURCE. When means anyone can see the code. This makes it safer as the govt cannot install back doors etc, that Windows and Mac are RIDDLED WITH.

4. Linus is FREE.

5. Linux has the built in security of asking for passwords for any changes made to the system.

I switched to Linux when the "Windows 10" garbage came out. I will never go back. I still use Windows at work because that's what they have there. Would never use Windows for person use or business use if I had my own business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76815515


I beg to differ on number 3.
Open source only means that the back doors are "visible".
But that is ONLY if you can completely understand the code.
Nation based hackers can modify one or two lines of code in several different functions that result in a back door.
I promise you this is REALLY HARD to recognize.
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Re: Why to avoid LINUX
Security vs. I have nothing to hide.

99% of the people have nothing to hide.

propoganda
mosiu

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Re: Why to avoid LINUX
1. Linus Torvalds got infected by the woke virus and his mind might be subject to extremist ideologies

2. He prefers functionality over security and his kernel is too big, buggy and it seriously sucks in many ways

3. Even Windows 10 does better kernel security than Linux 4.x (Windows NT team changed their bug tracking and follow up after two decades of failures)

4. Linus Torvalds does not know how to install a Linux distribution. Find the interviews. He is only a kernel guy. He runs simple things like Red hat ... he can't maintain systems

Who knows who else watching his own 'secure' system in real time...

5. He had unbased battles with gr who did actual kernel security

6. Linux used to be 300k lines of code. Now 5 million

7. Who knows how many developers are on some foreign pay roll to undermine things 'by accident' in their communities, introducing new bugs for a living while playing programming guy...

Get Hurd instead of Linux
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84053470

What is this "Hurd" that you speak of?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84129488


Hurd is special story. It started somewhere in time of Linux "because Linux is >>monolithic<< and is only GPL2 licensed" by Free Software Foundation which maintains copy left licenses and especially GPL license. Hurd have concept of remote communication between processors. Some time ago I wanted to see how it works so I downloaded its source code. I found it uses Mach kernel code which is licensed not compatible with GPL. So I wrote to FSF that their own software violates its license.





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