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Cardiologists say herbal supplements causing heart disease!!!

 
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12 years ago, I was almost dead because of side effects of all the prescriptions I took, I was losing my insurance and my doctor was getting ready to retire.

Plot Twist!

Doc helped me get off the prescriptions and prescribed OTC nutritional therapy, and gave me passwords into research studies. I lost 120 pounds of retained fluid, blood pressure went to normal, autoimmune problems are controlled and I felt like a teenager again!

I am on supplements for life. I get a full nutritional panel blood test once a year to adjust my dosages. In addition to liquid vitamins, I took 22 additional supplement pills. Now there are only 12 in my pill cup.

Best advice doctors gave me was to stay out of the clinic if I want a long healthy life, and he helped me develop herbal elixir to use when needed.

Fuck Big Pharm, fuck AMA, FDA and fuck insurance dictators who tell the doctors what their patients need.
 Quoting: Crabby Abby


Well, Crabby, then… what are you taking. I’m very interested. Also, have arrhythmia for which an old country Amish doctor told me to take magnesium. Thank you for your help.
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12 years ago, I was almost dead because of side effects of all the prescriptions I took, I was losing my insurance and my doctor was getting ready to retire.

Plot Twist!

Doc helped me get off the prescriptions and prescribed OTC nutritional therapy, and gave me passwords into research studies. I lost 120 pounds of retained fluid, blood pressure went to normal, autoimmune problems are controlled and I felt like a teenager again!

I am on supplements for life. I get a full nutritional panel blood test once a year to adjust my dosages. In addition to liquid vitamins, I took 22 additional supplement pills. Now there are only 12 in my pill cup.

Best advice doctors gave me was to stay out of the clinic if I want a long healthy life, and he helped me develop herbal elixir to use when needed.

Fuck Big Pharm, fuck AMA, FDA and fuck insurance dictators who tell the doctors what their patients need.
 Quoting: Crabby Abby


Well, Crabby, then… what are you taking. I’m very interested. Also, have arrhythmia for which an old country Amish doctor told me to take magnesium. Thank you for your help.
 Quoting: GhostDancer


Please read my posts above...for an arrhythmia .

CoQ10 works, but don't skip a dose/a day!

The day you take your first dose, expect the arrhythmia to disappear in two weeks.
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Re: Cardiologists say herbal supplements causing heart disease!!!
I get most of the supplements from Amazon.

Base is Tropical Oasis Mega Vitamins and Tropical Oasis Brain Power in a glass of coconut water to wash down the pills.

A big spoon of coconut oil to help the pills slide down.

Blood tests showed I need additional magnesium threonate, methyl folate. D3/K2, coq10, zinc. I also take nitric oxide, Antioxidant Extreme and salmon oil.

I'm on a highly restrictive diet. No gluten, no soy, no msg, no potatoes, no tomatoes, no chemicals or artificial flavors, coloring or preservatives, no HFCS. I eat meat, fish, chicken, most vegetables, a little brown rice, all the organic apples I want, fresh berries, lemons and limes, apple cider vinegar, olive oil and cultured dairy in small amounts.

Favorite meals are grilled steak and mushrooms on a bed of greens, bacon bleu cheese salad with homemade dressing, and tacos.

I can't take anything stronger than Tylenol for pain and inflammation so the yard is my pharmacy. I make an elixir of fermented herbs in black cherries and I can stay mostly pain free.
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Re: Cardiologists say herbal supplements causing heart disease!!!
Of course they say that .
Better to consume their very expensive cocktails of experimental drugs they can't even be bother to test anymore, so they get their kickbacks.
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Money, oh lots of money.

Doctors are vampires.
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I get most of the supplements from Amazon.

Base is Tropical Oasis Mega Vitamins and Tropical Oasis Brain Power in a glass of coconut water to wash down the pills.

A big spoon of coconut oil to help the pills slide down.

Blood tests showed I need additional magnesium threonate, methyl folate. D3/K2, coq10, zinc. I also take nitric oxide, Antioxidant Extreme and salmon oil.

I'm on a highly restrictive diet. No gluten, no soy, no msg, no potatoes, no tomatoes, no chemicals or artificial flavors, coloring or preservatives, no HFCS. I eat meat, fish, chicken, most vegetables, a little brown rice, all the organic apples I want, fresh berries, lemons and limes, apple cider vinegar, olive oil and cultured dairy in small amounts.

Favorite meals are grilled steak and mushrooms on a bed of greens, bacon bleu cheese salad with homemade dressing, and tacos.

I can't take anything stronger than Tylenol for pain and inflammation so the yard is my pharmacy. I make an elixir of fermented herbs in black cherries and I can stay mostly pain free.
 Quoting: Crabby Abby


interesting, thx for the info. hf

which herbs do you use in the elixir?
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Bunch of criminals. I’ve seen people have short term reactions to Energy drinks but never Vitamins and supplements taken correctly. They are working to ban over the counter supplements and make them all prescription within the next couple of years. Codex Alimentarius.
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Bwahahaha...

Cardiologists are sounding the alarm on herbal supplements, which are giving their young patients heart problems.


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Anything but the miracle vax.
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Re: Cardiologists say herbal supplements causing heart disease!!!
Bunch of criminals. I’ve seen people have short term reactions to Energy drinks but never Vitamins and supplements taken correctly. They are working to ban over the counter supplements and make them all prescription within the next couple of years. Codex Alimentarius.
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that will never happen.
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Bunch of criminals. I’ve seen people have short term reactions to Energy drinks but never Vitamins and supplements taken correctly. They are working to ban over the counter supplements and make them all prescription within the next couple of years. Codex Alimentarius.
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Right! But they continue to sell Monster and Red Bull, no offense to those that drink it but there's a reason they call it those names...does bad things to people.

Yep, no problem banning the good stuff, gotta push those poisons instead.
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Re: Cardiologists say herbal supplements causing heart disease!!!
I get most of the supplements from Amazon.

Base is Tropical Oasis Mega Vitamins and Tropical Oasis Brain Power in a glass of coconut water to wash down the pills.

A big spoon of coconut oil to help the pills slide down.

Blood tests showed I need additional magnesium threonate, methyl folate. D3/K2, coq10, zinc. I also take nitric oxide, Antioxidant Extreme and salmon oil.

I'm on a highly restrictive diet. No gluten, no soy, no msg, no potatoes, no tomatoes, no chemicals or artificial flavors, coloring or preservatives, no HFCS. I eat meat, fish, chicken, most vegetables, a little brown rice, all the organic apples I want, fresh berries, lemons and limes, apple cider vinegar, olive oil and cultured dairy in small amounts.

Favorite meals are grilled steak and mushrooms on a bed of greens, bacon bleu cheese salad with homemade dressing, and tacos.

I can't take anything stronger than Tylenol for pain and inflammation so the yard is my pharmacy. I make an elixir of fermented herbs in black cherries and I can stay mostly pain free.
 Quoting: Crabby Abby


interesting, thx for the info. hf

which herbs do you use in the elixir?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80105578


I ferment cannabis, horsetail grass and Balm of Gilead in black cherries for the elixir. The sludge in the bottom of the fermenter is dried and put in salve with Western Gensing

Phuck Big Pharm
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To be fair there are a lot of really stupid people who will take a whole bottle of something just because they’re in a bad mood
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Everything you say is stupid.
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Re: Cardiologists say herbal supplements causing heart disease!!!
Bump
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Re: Cardiologists say herbal supplements causing heart disease!!!
bump, great stuff here from people who have helped themselves with supplements.

my issue is the utter LACK of diagnostic acumen. - Skill in figuring out what is wrong in the first place.

If you don't work to find out the reason, nothing helps. I am talking about docs here.


A young new mother had widespread red spots and other symptoms.... the local hospital was unable to help and sent her to the university clinic.

Having a hematologist among the people I know well - this case was sad. They should have known...

The "rash" was bleeding under her skin, petechia.

Childbirth can cause a derangement of clotting called DIC, dissemminated intravascular clotting.It has some newer name. now.

widespread clotting within the vascular system.

It can be stopped IF you know what it is.

They finally got it.

The hematologist I know was called to the postpartum floor only once or twice in his career for this - so it sticks in your mind.

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How to tell if a speckly rash is bleeding under the skin -

take a clear glass and press it on the area. If the spots disappear under the pressure, it is NOT a skin issue, but a bleeding problem.

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Re: Cardiologists say herbal supplements causing heart disease!!!
Bwahahaha...

Cardiologists are sounding the alarm on herbal supplements, which are giving their young patients heart problems.


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 Quoting: Larence


I think they might be right, how do we know the source/manufacturer?

I was taking a regular concoction of herbal tablets and I started getting chest pains. Stopped and it went away, got back on them it came back, being curious I repeated two more times with the same results before I decided to stop.

I am now working my way through them now a month a time to find which one is doing it.

When I find which one or which mix which is doing it I will be sure to post the details here.
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Bwahahaha...

Cardiologists are sounding the alarm on herbal supplements, which are giving their young patients heart problems.


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You think anyone around here is gonna trust what a cardiologist says anymore?
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Bwahahaha...

Cardiologists are sounding the alarm on herbal supplements, which are giving their young patients heart problems.


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 Quoting: Larence


I think they might be right, how do we know the source/manufacturer?

I was taking a regular concoction of herbal tablets and I started getting chest pains. Stopped and it went away, got back on them it came back, being curious I repeated two more times with the same results before I decided to stop.

I am now working my way through them now a month a time to find which one is doing it.

When I find which one or which mix which is doing it I will be sure to post the details here.
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At the moment I suspect its the collagen I have, if proven to be the case I will get it lab tested.
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Re: Cardiologists say herbal supplements causing heart disease!!!
A precursor to meth is causing heart problems? No way!
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Well I mean ephedra does cause cardiovascular issues such as irregular heartbeats and hypertension. Always has. It's the main ingredient in methamphetamines.
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Demons lie.
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Bwahahaha...

Cardiologists are sounding the alarm on herbal supplements, which are giving their young patients heart problems.


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 Quoting: Larence


You think anyone around here is gonna trust what a cardiologist says anymore?
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My daughters cardiologist wanted to put her on cholesterol medicine, even though her TOTAL cholesterol was only 60 !!! Normal total cholesterol for a female is 125 to 200.
The doctors are basically pill pushers !
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It never ends
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Fish oil is good for your heart, and they claim the opposite here. Most people in the US are deficient in Omega-3. They don't want you doing anything to protect yourself, they want you sick, stupid, and dead.
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Because it's rancid.

Fish oil spoils quickly and is dangerous.
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Can't be the so called vaccine then.
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Re: Cardiologists say herbal supplements causing heart disease!!!
Here are other things that will give you strokes and heart attacks:

Laying in the sun for more than 20 Min.

Eating more than once a day.

Wearing your socks to bed.

Bending over to tie your shoe laces.

For men: Standing up while urinating.

For women: Sitting down while urinating.

Taking baths/showers in water warmer than skin temperature.

Taking baths/showers in water that is too cold.

Reading conspiracy forums.

Eating ice cream when it's hot outside.

Riding bikes too fast up a hill.

Any form of exercises that causes your heartbeat to increase.

Eating pizza on the same day as eating Chinese food.

Driving in your car with the windows closed and the a/c turned on.

Talking to people about Vaxx shots in a negative manner.

Having romantic or sexual feelings for people of the opposite sex or gender.


There’s a few hundred more but I have to go take my nap.
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