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What is "Film Noir"?

 
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What is "Film Noir"?
I've seen plenty of "film noir" movies but I can't come to a definition of what the term means.

What is "Film Noir"?
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I've seen plenty of "film noir" movies but I can't come to a definition of what the term means.

What is "Film Noir"?
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Black humor (Noir = black).
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Good examples of which are Heat, Mulholland Falls Hollywood Confidental and Chinatown
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Film noir movies with blood, crime, sex abuse.
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Good examples of which are Heat, Mulholland Falls Hollywood Confidental and Chinatown
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Wrong wrong wrong.

And it's not black humor, either.

Before movies were made in color, it was a technique of accentuating the black & white contrast. It produced pronounced shadows and vague backgrounds, and it starkly illuminated the features of the actors.
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Good examples of which are Heat, Mulholland Falls Hollywood Confidental and Chinatown


Wrong wrong wrong.

And it's not black humor, either.

Before movies were made in color, it was a technique of accentuating the black & white contrast. It produced pronounced shadows and vague backgrounds, and it starkly illuminated the features of the actors.
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Very oversimplified for brevity: Film Noir is a genre of film that usually explored 'darker' issues, hence the 'Noir'. Usually there is some sort of crime and people being dishonest etc. The above mentioned technique was part of this genre but it was used to convey the larger content or atmosphere, not just because it 'looked dark'
Look to the older 30/40's stuff, the above mentioned movies are homages to the real deal.
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Good examples of which are Heat, Mulholland Falls Hollywood Confidental and Chinatown


Wrong wrong wrong.

And it's not black humor, either.

Before movies were made in color, it was a technique of accentuating the black & white contrast. It produced pronounced shadows and vague backgrounds, and it starkly illuminated the features of the actors.
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Thanks for the answer. hf

One question: Doesn't "film noir" have anything to do with the subject matter and themes in the films also?

I mean film noir always seems to be dark, thematically speaking.
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Good examples of which are Heat, Mulholland Falls Hollywood Confidental and Chinatown


Wrong wrong wrong.

And it's not black humor, either.

Before movies were made in color, it was a technique of accentuating the black & white contrast. It produced pronounced shadows and vague backgrounds, and it starkly illuminated the features of the actors.







Very oversimplified for brevity: Film Noir is a genre of film that usually explored 'darker' issues, hence the 'Noir'. Usually there is some sort of crime and people being dishonest etc. The above mentioned technique was part of this genre but it was used to convey the larger content or atmosphere, not just because it 'looked dark'
Look to the older 30/40's stuff, the above mentioned movies are homages to the real deal.
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It's amazing you were posting that answer as I was asking for it. Thanks.
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Good examples of which are Heat, Mulholland Falls Hollywood Confidental and Chinatown


Wrong wrong wrong.

And it's not black humor, either.

Before movies were made in color, it was a technique of accentuating the black & white contrast. It produced pronounced shadows and vague backgrounds, and it starkly illuminated the features of the actors.
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Yes, you are correct (black humor) I didn't read properly (my bad?).

But it's subject matter is "black" (I guess I disagree with you there :)).
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Good examples of which are Heat, Mulholland Falls Hollywood Confidental and Chinatown


Wrong wrong wrong.

And it's not black humor, either.

Before movies were made in color, it was a technique of accentuating the black & white contrast. It produced pronounced shadows and vague backgrounds, and it starkly illuminated the features of the actors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 396238







Very oversimplified for brevity: Film Noir is a genre of film that usually explored 'darker' issues, hence the 'Noir'. Usually there is some sort of crime and people being dishonest etc. The above mentioned technique was part of this genre but it was used to convey the larger content or atmosphere, not just because it 'looked dark'
Look to the older 30/40's stuff, the above mentioned movies are homages to the real deal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 390431

And French film noir is a different ball game altogther much more psychological flair and philosophical panache.The sexual frisson on french noir is sublime.
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Some films like Blade Runner (1982) intentionally evoked film noir to replicate the idea of a detective solving a crime but one who is an antihero, not the typical ridiculous white hat wearing cowboy, but a real person struggling to do the right thing in spite of circumstances, logic, and their background.
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Underexposure, in my case.
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Re: What is "Film Noir"?
The Metamorphosis of Franz Kafka not the 2012 version but the earlier Carlos Atanes film much more noir.
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Re: What is "Film Noir"?
the big lebowsky is a film noir,it doesn't really need to be dark with shadows and blood
film noir is really hard to define if you consider the fact that terminator 2 and Shawshank redemption both have noir tone though different movies altogether
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Good examples of which are Heat, Mulholland Falls Hollywood Confidental and Chinatown


Wrong wrong wrong.

And it's not black humor, either.

Before movies were made in color, it was a technique of accentuating the black & white contrast. It produced pronounced shadows and vague backgrounds, and it starkly illuminated the features of the actors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 396238







Very oversimplified for brevity: Film Noir is a genre of film that usually explored 'darker' issues, hence the 'Noir'. Usually there is some sort of crime and people being dishonest etc. The above mentioned technique was part of this genre but it was used to convey the larger content or atmosphere, not just because it 'looked dark'
Look to the older 30/40's stuff, the above mentioned movies are homages to the real deal.
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And that stark contrast technique itself has a name - chiaroscuro. It was widely used in classical art, centuries before film was invented. Leonardo da Vinci made extensive use of the technique.
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Re: What is "Film Noir"?
Well, as far as themes go (not just visual concepts), the definitive noir film must address the bleaker aspect of human nature, with a common mood of cynicism, distrust, paranoia and guilt... There doesn't have to be a femme fatale, though one would be welcome. "A divorced cop, with a murky past, hires a contract killer to exterminate his ex-wife but gets more than he bargained for when he falls for the gun-for-hire's seductive wife" would be a definitive noir plotline. Guilt, hopelessness, lust and murder all come into play.
Remember film-noirs continue to be produced today. They're called neo-noirs. Body Heat, Memento, Drive, Taxi Driver, Brick, American Psycho, the list goes on, etc, etc.
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Well, as far as themes go (not just visual concepts), the definitive noir film must address the bleaker aspect of human nature, with a common mood of cynicism, distrust, paranoia and guilt... There doesn't have to be a femme fatale, though one would be welcome. "A divorced cop, with a murky past, hires a contract killer to exterminate his ex-wife but gets more than he bargained for when he falls for the gun-for-hire's seductive wife" would be a definitive noir plotline. Guilt, hopelessness, lust and murder all come into play.
Remember film-noirs continue to be produced today. They're called neo-noirs. Body Heat, Memento, Drive, Taxi Driver, Brick, American Psycho, the list goes on, etc, etc.
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Best explanation right there. I love movies like this.





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