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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 84232063 United States 09/21/2022 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. Trump has failed to show he declassified docs seized from Mar-a-Lago, DOJ tells appeals court Attorneys for Donald Trump have repeatedly failed to show that the former president declassified government records that were taken from his Florida home as part of a criminal investigation, the Department of Justice told a federal appeals court. The Justice Department made that argument late Tuesday as it sought to resume its review of records marked classified that were seized from Trump’s Palm Beach resort home Mar-a-Lago in an FBI raid last month. The DOJ’s filing in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit swung back at Trump’s lawyers, who earlier Tuesday asked the court to preserve a ruling from a lower federal judge that blocked the government from examining the seized documents. Trump “again implies that he could have declassified the records before leaving office,” federal prosecutors wrote. “As before, however, Plaintiff conspicuously fails to represent, much less show, that he actually took that step,” they wrote, referring to Trump. The DOJ lawyers added that Trump “is now resisting” a request by a court-appointed special master for him to provide evidence that he declassified records that were seized. “In any event, Plaintiff’s effort to raise questions about classification status is a red herring,” the prosecutors argued. “Even if Plaintiff could show that he declassified the records at issue, there would still be no justification for restricting the government’s use of evidence at the center of an ongoing criminal investigation.” Lawyers for Trump and the DOJ appeared in Brooklyn, New York, on Tuesday afternoon for a conference with the special master, U.S. District Judge Raymond Dearie. He was picked for the role by Trump and appointed by Cannon, who herself had been nominated by Trump. But in Tuesday’s court conference, Dearie expressed skepticism toward Trump’s lawyers about which, if any, of the seized Mar-a-Lago records had been declassified. [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] |
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Big Duke6 User ID: 84054198 Canada 09/21/2022 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. Isn’t is pretty obvious by now that Trump was lying about declassify these docs? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76686639 Now he’s been busted by the special master that he requested. Too funny. More bullshit he pulled out of his ass. His lawyers have been called on it, and they got nothing but their dicks in their hands. Real shame a pile of Trump's followers are going to get grifted on again. Hope some of them woke up. Last Edited by Big Duke6 on 09/21/2022 01:40 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84232302 United States 09/21/2022 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. How does this effect my kids in school who are being taught to hate who they are? How does this effect my community in Texas that is overrun with Illegal Immigrants contributing to crime, rising rents, and no insurance hit and runs? Those are real concerns not Democrat Trump distractions. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78722067 United Kingdom 09/21/2022 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. Isn’t is pretty obvious by now that Trump was lying about declassify these docs? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76686639 Now he’s been busted by the special master that he requested. Too funny. More bullshit he pulled out of his ass. His lawyers have been called on it, and they got nothing but their dicks in their hands. Real shame a pile of Trump's followers are going to get grifted on again. Hope some of them woke up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75311439 United States 09/21/2022 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. Remember, all records marked classified almost certainly came from a U.S. intelligence agency. Trump likely received a COPY of these 100 records. The agency that drafted the record has the ORIGINAL. So why does Biden DOJ need immediate access to Trump's COPY of his records? To cover their crimes is why. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80304385 United States 09/21/2022 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. Fake Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75311439 Remember, all records marked classified almost certainly came from a U.S. intelligence agency. Trump likely received a COPY of these 100 records. The agency that drafted the record has the ORIGINAL. So why does Biden DOJ need immediate access to Trump's COPY of his records? To cover their crimes is why. The here is that Trump’s choice for Special Master is asking Trump to put up or shut up about whether he actually declassified the doc. Why won’t he? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80900409 United States 09/21/2022 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. Thread title is fake BS - only delusional liberal fascists believe that lie President Trump has previously stated very clearly that he declassified ALL of the documents in question. That is an irrefutable FACT. Just the facts. 1 star |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84189667 United States 09/21/2022 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. Thread title is fake BS - only delusional liberal fascists believe that lie Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80900409 President Trump has previously stated very clearly that he declassified ALL of the documents in question. That is an irrefutable FACT. Just the facts. 1 star So if it’s an irrefutable fact, why won’t Trump attest to that in legal filings? Sure, we heard what he said on Social, but where’s the beef? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84189667 United States 09/21/2022 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. From the latest filing: "Plaintiff [Trump] again implies that he could have declassified the records before leaving office. As before, however, Plaintiff conspicuously fails to represent, much less show, that he actually took that step." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79477214 United States 09/21/2022 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. Isn’t is pretty obvious by now that Trump was lying about declassify these docs? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76686639 Now he’s been busted by the special master that he requested. Too funny. All you internet lawyers who don't have a college degree trying to keep Biden in office. Now that's funny. I'd like to get excited about bashing Trump but 10k/day illegals jumping the border, broken supply lines, 40% inflation and nuclear war with China and/or Russia by this Christmas, makes me wish Trump was running the country. But, you know, I'm open to the possibility of changing my mind in two weeks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79477214 United States 09/21/2022 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. Trump has not once claimed declassification in any sworn affidavit, deposition or court filing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80304385 You know why? Because perjury is a felony. He needs to put up or STFU on his claim. THIS Trump is lying and there’s no way out. Horse shit legal analysis. By not not claiming at this time, declassification, Trump is forcing the DOJ/special master to prove these documents in question are not just "classified" but have such a high degree of classification that unlike other former presidents these documents should not be in his possession, since one assumes a former president doesn't lose ALL security clearance he held as president. Having a document marked classified doesn't mean they are classified or still classified, or for that matter ever classified. IOW Trump is shifting the burden from himself to the DOJ. Clever move in my opinion. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79477214 United States 09/21/2022 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. Trump has not once claimed declassification in any sworn affidavit, deposition or court filing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80304385 You know why? Because perjury is a felony. He needs to put up or STFU on his claim. THIS Trump is lying and there’s no way out. Horse shit legal analysis. By not not claiming at this time, declassification, Trump is forcing the DOJ/special master to prove these documents in question are not just "classified" but have such a high degree of classification that unlike other former presidents these documents should not be in his possession, since one assumes a former president doesn't lose ALL security clearance he held as president. Having a document marked classified doesn't mean they are classified or still classified, or for that matter ever classified. IOW Trump is shifting the burden from himself to the DOJ. Clever move in my opinion. One more thing. Saying these 100 documents in questions were declassified by Trump is tacit admission the documents were in fact classified and need to be declassified. Why should Trump make their case that the documents were in fact classified? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79477214 United States 09/21/2022 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. In no legal way did Trump declassify shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70353425 Trump is done. Bubba gonna love Trump in prison. And what law school did you attend? Trump is not going anywhere. He has a MAGA mid term to win. By January 2023, A MAGA house and congress will be investigating the Biden DOJ and impeaching Merrick Garland. Take that to the bank, democrat. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81628435 Canada 09/21/2022 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. From the latest filing: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84189667 "Plaintiff [Trump] again implies that he could have declassified the records before leaving office. As before, however, Plaintiff conspicuously fails to represent, much less show, that he actually took that step." Fake Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75311439 Remember, all records marked classified almost certainly came from a U.S. intelligence agency. Trump likely received a COPY of these 100 records. The agency that drafted the record has the ORIGINAL. So why does Biden DOJ need immediate access to Trump's COPY of his records? To cover their crimes is why. The here is that Trump’s choice for Special Master is asking Trump to put up or shut up about whether he actually declassified the doc. Why won’t he? Because lying on social media and Newsmax is a lot less problematic than lying to the court. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78258345 United States 09/21/2022 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. Trump is a dumbass who didn't pack the boxes or check the contents. He has no idea what was in there. He just wanted to say no and refuse to hand things over as his last pathetic power play against Biden. He didn't drain the swamp. He ran up the most debt of any President ever. He locked down the country and destroyed the middle class economy. And worst of all, ran a pathetic 2020 campaign that was so bad he actually lost to Biden. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81628435 Canada 09/21/2022 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. In no legal way did Trump declassify shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70353425 Trump is done. Bubba gonna love Trump in prison. And what law school did you attend? Trump is not going anywhere. He has a MAGA mid term to win. By January 2023, A MAGA house and congress will be investigating the Biden DOJ and impeaching Merrick Garland. Take that to the bank, democrat. spoiler alert: Donald Trump didn't declassify shit |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77804411 United States 09/21/2022 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. Thread title is fake BS - only delusional liberal fascists believe that lie Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80900409 President Trump has previously stated very clearly that he declassified ALL of the documents in question. That is an irrefutable FACT. Just the facts. 1 star Just because he said it doesn't make it true. Wait. Are you telling...politicians lie!!!!! |
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Brycenator User ID: 81404838 United States 09/21/2022 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say. How does any of this effect my ability to buy groceries, gas, or a home? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84232302 How does this effect my kids in school who are being taught to hate who they are? How does this effect my community in Texas that is overrun with Illegal Immigrants contributing to crime, rising rents, and no insurance hit and runs? Those are real concerns not Democrat Trump distractions. Well said my friend. 01010001011101010110010101110011011101000110100101101111011011100010000001000101011101100110010101110010011110010111010001101000011010010110111001100111 |