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Appeals Court Lifts Hold on Mar-A-Lago Records in Donald Trump Investigation

 
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In a stark repudiation of Donald Trump's legal arguments, a federal appeals court on Wednesday permitted the Justice Department to resume its use of classified records seized from the former president's Florida estate as part of its ongoing criminal investigation.

The ruling from a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit amounts to an overwhelming victory for the Justice Department, clearing the way for investigators to continue scrutinizing the documents as they evaluate whether to bring criminal charges over the storage of of top-secret records at Mar-a-Lago after Trump left the White House.

The court also pointedly noted that Trump had presented no evidence that he had declassified the sensitive records, as he has repeatedly maintained, and rejected the possibility that Trump could have an “individual interest in or need for” the roughly 100 documents marked as classified.
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Seems like the walls are closing in on Donny Boy.
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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
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Has it ever occurred to you that Trump wants those records to be released? 5d chess isn’t very hard when you’re playing with dumbed down public school educated retards.
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Has it ever occurred to you that Trump wants those records to be released? 5d chess isn’t very hard when you’re playing with dumbed down public school educated retards.
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Thats what i was thinking too.
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Damn…the appellate court opinion was scathing.

This:

“We cannot discern why Plaintiff would have an individual interest in or need for any of the one-hundred documents with classification markings. Classified documents are marked to show they are classified… For this reason, a person may have access to classified information only if, among other requirements, he ‘has a need-to-know the information.’

“Plaintiff has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents. Nor has he established that the current administration has waived that requirement for these documents.”

Ouch
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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
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Yes, possession is 9/10th of the law and trump possessed alot


Good riddance, after he played you all with the COVID hoax you should all be CHEERING!


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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
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Actually, they were asked by the special master but wouldn’t say.

Thread: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say.

Only place he will say he declassified everything is on his Social and Newsmax, where he can’t be indicted for perjury
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Harsh words for Trump’s hand picked and owned judge as well.

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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
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Looks like this is going all the way up to the (Trump) Supreme Court.

I doubt the Supreme Court is giving Pedonazi and his DOJ henchman a victory.

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This is how you spend your night

Reposting "trumps going down! Again!!!" Threads

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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
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Looks like this is going all the way up to the (Trump) Supreme Court.

I doubt the Supreme Court is giving Pedonazi and his DOJ henchman a victory.
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I doubt but, given the strongly worded opinion from the appellate court. This doesn’t have a snowball’s chance.
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Harsh words for Trump’s hand picked and owned judge as well.


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Commie-democrat judges giving Pedonazi a legal victory to raid political opponents homes.

Who would think? Lol.

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Trump can try to appeal this. But in the meantime the DOJ gets to immediately resume working with the classified documents (which it's retained possession of all this time). DOJ's case is back in business immediately.

Special Master will remain in place to sort the other seized evidence, but the DOJ has made clear that this is of little relevance to its case. And the Special Master has made clear he's not in Trump's pocket anyway.

Judge Cannon is now permanently removed from the matter of the classified documents. The Court of Appeals has seized authority on that matter, and that's that.
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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
 Quoting: NDFarm


Looks like this is going all the way up to the (Trump) Supreme Court.

I doubt the Supreme Court is giving Pedonazi and his DOJ henchman a victory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79489482


I doubt but, given the strongly worded opinion from the appellate court. This doesn’t have a snowball’s chance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81706914


We will see. Appellant court opinions are subordinate to the rulings of the Supreme Court.
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Its a investigation, anyone with a brain wouldn’t give them shit and make them work for it. You bring your cards to the table AFTER you have been Charged in a court. No lawyer would advise a client to give up the goods before.
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Trump can try to appeal this. But in the meantime the DOJ gets to immediately resume working with the classified documents (which it's retained possession of all this time). DOJ's case is back in business immediately.

Special Master will remain in place to sort the other seized evidence, but the DOJ has made clear that this is of little relevance to its case. And the Special Master has made clear he's not in Trump's pocket anyway.

Judge Cannon is now permanently removed from the matter of the classified documents. The Court of Appeals has seized authority on that matter, and that's that.
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All foreseen. No sense crowing about the obvious.

Who the fuck are you, democrat and why the fuck are you here?

You bitch motherfucker. Yeah you. Die of cancer. Watch your bitch commie family die of cancer.

I laugh at fucking paid whores like you. Fucking gun grabbing hate America, sell out motherfuckers.

Kill yourself, bitch.
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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
 Quoting: NDFarm


Looks like this is going all the way up to the (Trump) Supreme Court.

I doubt the Supreme Court is giving Pedonazi and his DOJ henchman a victory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79489482


I doubt but, given the strongly worded opinion from the appellate court. This doesn’t have a snowball’s chance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81706914


We will see. Appellant court opinions are subordinate to the rulings of the Supreme Court.
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First this would have to go to the full state appellate court, of which these three judges are part. Looking at this scathing opinion and how they tore Judge Cannon a new one, there probably zero chance Trump would even want to attempt an appeal except to slow things down. But that’s the whole point of what he’s trying to do.
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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
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The hold was going to be lifted as soon as the Special Master had completed. All the docs are in his possession now so it really doesn't matter.
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Harsh words for Trump’s hand picked and owned judge as well.


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Commie-democrat judges giving Pedonazi a legal victory to raid political opponents homes.

Who would think? Lol.
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You realize of course that two of the three judges in this unanimous opinion were appointed by Trump?
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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
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Lol.

They don't have to.

That's not how it works.

They can bring charges but Trump would win on appeal.

It came before the Supreme court a decade ago and the President has authority to verbally declassify and answers to nobody.

It's all a total bullshit political character assassination attempt of Trump by the crazed fascist, racist lefties.

It's a manufactured political show.

Nothing more.
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Its a investigation, anyone with a brain wouldn’t give them shit and make them work for it. You bring your cards to the table AFTER you have been Charged in a court. No lawyer would advise a client to give up the goods before.
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An investigation that will drag on until January 2023 when the MAGA house and senate impeaches Merrick Garland.

Fuck all you gloating assholes. Won't be gloating when MAGA controls the congress.

ah
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Has it ever occurred to you that Trump wants those records to be released? 5d chess isn’t very hard when you’re playing with dumbed down public school educated retards.
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Thats what i was thinking too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80992385


1rof1

Yea, Trump has them right where he wants them!


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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
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Actually, they were asked by the special master but wouldn’t say.

Thread: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say.

Only place he will say he declassified everything is on his Social and Newsmax, where he can’t be indicted for perjury
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81706914


Trump “again implies that he could have declassified the records before leaving office,” federal prosecutors wrote.

“As before, however, Plaintiff conspicuously fails to represent, much less show, that he actually took that step,” they wrote, referring to Trump.

The DOJ lawyers added that Trump “is now resisting” a request by a court-appointed special master for him to provide evidence that he declassified records that were seized.

“In any event, Plaintiff’s effort to raise questions about classification status is a red herring,” the prosecutors argued. “Even if Plaintiff could show that he declassified the records at issue, there would still be no justification for restricting the government’s use of evidence at the center of an ongoing criminal investigation.”
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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
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Lol.

They don't have to.

That's not how it works.

They can bring charges but Trump would win on appeal.

It came before the Supreme court a decade ago and the President has authority to verbally declassify and answers to nobody.

It's all a total bullshit political character assassination attempt of Trump by the crazed fascist, racist lefties.

It's a manufactured political show.

Nothing more.
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Even when asked by the special master, Trump won’t affirm that he declassified anything, nor has he affirmed that in any court filing.

He only says that on his Social and Newsmax.
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Has it ever occurred to you that Trump wants those records to be released? 5d chess isn’t very hard when you’re playing with dumbed down public school educated retards.
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Thats what i was thinking too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80992385


1rof1

Yea, Trump has them right where he wants them!


greys-0ksure
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Right..5D hyperdimensional chessmaster stuff.
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All foreseen. No sense crowing about the obvious.

Who the fuck are you, democrat and why the fuck are you here?

You bitch motherfucker. Yeah you. Die of cancer. Watch your bitch commie family die of cancer.

I laugh at fucking paid whores like you. Fucking gun grabbing hate America, sell out motherfuckers.

Kill yourself, bitch.
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lmao

Hey, how do you really feel?

The DOJ and FBI in 2022 are now governmental versions of Jeffrey Epstein haranguing parents of his Lolitas for not being tolerant and easygoing enough.


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Has it ever occurred to you that Trump wants those records to be released? 5d chess isn’t very hard when you’re playing with dumbed down public school educated retards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71636976


Thats what i was thinking too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80992385


1rof1

Yea, Trump has them right where he wants them!


greys-0ksure
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Right..5D hyperdimensional chessmaster stuff.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81706914


MAGA congress at mid terms.

Fuck off, gun grabber. Your commie politics are history, motherfucker.

Fucking fat cocksucker.





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