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Appeals Court Lifts Hold on Mar-A-Lago Records in Donald Trump Investigation

 
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Has it ever occurred to you that Trump wants those records to be released? 5d chess isn’t very hard when you’re playing with dumbed down public school educated retards.
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Thats what i was thinking too.
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1rof1

Yea, Trump has them right where he wants them!


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Right..5D hyperdimensional chessmaster stuff.
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You people are at least semi retarded.

Of course they have nothing on Trump.

They will bring false charges.

He will win on appeal.
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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
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Lol.

They don't have to.

That's not how it works.

They can bring charges but Trump would win on appeal.

It came before the Supreme court a decade ago and the President has authority to verbally declassify and answers to nobody.

It's all a total bullshit political character assassination attempt of Trump by the crazed fascist, racist lefties.

It's a manufactured political show.

Nothing more.
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Even when asked by the special master, Trump won’t affirm that he declassified anything, nor has he affirmed that in any court filing.

He only says that on his Social and Newsmax.
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Well he can lie there without repercussions.

But not in court filings and risk a perjury indictment.
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more bad news for Trump

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In a stark repudiation of Donald Trump's legal arguments, a federal appeals court on Wednesday permitted the Justice Department to resume its use of classified records seized from the former president's Florida estate as part of its ongoing criminal investigation.

The ruling from a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit amounts to an overwhelming victory for the Justice Department, clearing the way for investigators to continue scrutinizing the documents as they evaluate whether to bring criminal charges over the storage of of top-secret records at Mar-a-Lago after Trump left the White House.

The court also pointedly noted that Trump had presented no evidence that he had declassified the sensitive records, as he has repeatedly maintained, and rejected the possibility that Trump could have an “individual interest in or need for” the roughly 100 documents marked as classified.
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EVERYONE ON THE PLANET IS A SICKO.
Get a job, Leave the best President in AMERICAN HISTORY by beALONE.

He will be in heaven ❤️ someday
You people don't stand a chance, ever.
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Damn…the appellate court opinion was scathing.

This:

“We cannot discern why Plaintiff would have an individual interest in or need for any of the one-hundred documents with classification markings. Classified documents are marked to show they are classified… For this reason, a person may have access to classified information only if, among other requirements, he ‘has a need-to-know the information.’

“Plaintiff has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents. Nor has he established that the current administration has waived that requirement for these documents.”

Ouch
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81706914


Lol.

He had declassified them.

It's like we on on planet of the apes.
LOL! More TDS
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BOMBSHELL TRUMP IS FINISHED !
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All foreseen. No sense crowing about the obvious.

Who the fuck are you, democrat and why the fuck are you here?

You bitch motherfucker. Yeah you. Die of cancer. Watch your bitch commie family die of cancer.

I laugh at fucking paid whores like you. Fucking gun grabbing hate America, sell out motherfuckers.

Kill yourself, bitch.
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lmao

Hey, how do you really feel?

The DOJ and FBI in 2022 are now governmental versions of Jeffrey Epstein haranguing parents of his Lolitas for not being tolerant and easygoing enough.


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DOJ and FBI must have lower poll numbers than Joe Biden.
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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
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Lol.

They don't have to.

That's not how it works.

They can bring charges but Trump would win on appeal.

It came before the Supreme court a decade ago and the President has authority to verbally declassify and answers to nobody.

It's all a total bullshit political character assassination attempt of Trump by the crazed fascist, racist lefties.

It's a manufactured political show.

Nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84199083


Even when asked by the special master, Trump won’t affirm that he declassified anything, nor has he affirmed that in any court filing.

He only says that on his Social and Newsmax.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81706914


Well he can lie there without repercussions.

But not in court filings and risk a perjury indictment.
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You shills are pathetic.

This is a game and a set up going on.

They cannot give Trump's legal team a list of the documents.

If they received a list, Trump could literally say they are declassified and it would be over.

But since they won't or can't give them the list, they are making the Trump team declare the documents specifically.

They are damned if they do and damned if they don't because there could have been documents planted during the raid.

Of course we'd love to give the FBI the benefit of the doubt, but that would be unreasonable considering the circumstances around the ongoing Trump witch hunts.

Basically it's going to get interesting.

Either Trump's team will find a legal solution or they will hit a road block as obviously pre planned by the Dem witch hunters, and have no choice but to just put out the list of known documents that were there, knowing full well that this is an obvious set up that anyone with at least average IQ should see clearly if they weren't on drugs or a totally brainwashed zombie.

Yes, they are either so dirty that they planted shit, or they will fall flat with another fails, false investigation witch hunt against Trump.

Par for the course.
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Well he can lie there without repercussions.

But not in court filings and risk a perjury indictment.
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In today's era, what is or isn't perjury and what is or isn't illegal is now totally dependent on just how liberal/leftist/lefty/progressive/libtarded a person is or isn't. Nothing else matters.

America in 2022 is entering its Joseph-Stalin/Lenin/Hitler/Mao phrase.

BTW, Adolf Hitler and his government declared that compassion should be the leading trait of Germany and the German people.

PedoHitler? You betcha.



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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
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Looks like this is going all the way up to the (Trump) Supreme Court.

I doubt the Supreme Court is giving Pedonazi and his DOJ henchman a victory.


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That’s like a booger eater photoshopping a finger in someone else’s nose.
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Timing is everything.
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Trump's lawyers can't show or prove Trump Declassified anything. Big problem for his case.
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Lol.

They don't have to.

That's not how it works.

They can bring charges but Trump would win on appeal.

It came before the Supreme court a decade ago and the President has authority to verbally declassify and answers to nobody.

It's all a total bullshit political character assassination attempt of Trump by the crazed fascist, racist lefties.

It's a manufactured political show.

Nothing more.
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Even when asked by the special master, Trump won’t affirm that he declassified anything, nor has he affirmed that in any court filing.

He only says that on his Social and Newsmax.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81706914


Well he can lie there without repercussions.

But not in court filings and risk a perjury indictment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80863358


You a bitch, motherfucker.

Like to see your fucking face when MAGA wins mid terms.

Fuck you, asshole. Your bitch world is burning now as we speak.

Your fucking future is empty grocery shelves.
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Damn…the appellate court opinion was scathing.

This:

“We cannot discern why Plaintiff would have an individual interest in or need for any of the one-hundred documents with classification markings. Classified documents are marked to show they are classified… For this reason, a person may have access to classified information only if, among other requirements, he ‘has a need-to-know the information.’

“Plaintiff has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents. Nor has he established that the current administration has waived that requirement for these documents.”

Ouch
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81706914


Lol.

He had declassified them.

It's like we on on planet of the apes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84199083


Then why does Trump refuse to confirm that in court filings?

Thread: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say.

The DOJ’s filing in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit swung back at Trump’s lawyers, who earlier Tuesday asked the court to preserve a ruling from a lower federal judge that blocked the government from examining the seized documents.

Trump “again implies that he could have declassified the records before leaving office,” federal prosecutors wrote.

“As before, however, Plaintiff conspicuously fails to represent, much less show, that he actually took that step,” they wrote, referring to Trump.

The DOJ lawyers added that Trump “is now resisting” a request by a court-appointed special master for him to provide evidence that he declassified records that were seized.
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Damn…the appellate court opinion was scathing.

This:

“We cannot discern why Plaintiff would have an individual interest in or need for any of the one-hundred documents with classification markings. Classified documents are marked to show they are classified… For this reason, a person may have access to classified information only if, among other requirements, he ‘has a need-to-know the information.’

“Plaintiff has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents. Nor has he established that the current administration has waived that requirement for these documents.”

Ouch
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81706914


Lol.

He had declassified them.

It's like we on on planet of the apes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84199083


Then why does Trump refuse to confirm that in court filings?

Thread: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say.

The DOJ’s filing in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit swung back at Trump’s lawyers, who earlier Tuesday asked the court to preserve a ruling from a lower federal judge that blocked the government from examining the seized documents.

Trump “again implies that he could have declassified the records before leaving office,” federal prosecutors wrote.

“As before, however, Plaintiff conspicuously fails to represent, much less show, that he actually took that step,” they wrote, referring to Trump.

The DOJ lawyers added that Trump “is now resisting” a request by a court-appointed special master for him to provide evidence that he declassified records that were seized.
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"If the government gives me prima facie evidence (a legal term meaning a fact presumed to be true unless disproved) that this is classified, and you decide not to advance a claim of declassification ... as far as I'm concerned that's the end of it," Dearie told Trump's lawyers in his first public hearing on the matter.

Roughly 100 of the documents seized in the court-approved Aug. 8 search at Trump's home in the Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach had classified markings. Trump's attorney James Trusty told Dearie it is too early to say Trump had used his powers while still president to declassify the documents - a stance that Dearie suggested weakened the claim.

"You can't have your cake and eat it," the judge said.
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TIMING IS EVERYTHING. HE HAS TIME, IN COURT, AND IS USING THATBTIME TO HIS ADVANTAGE.
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Damn…the appellate court opinion was scathing.

This:

“We cannot discern why Plaintiff would have an individual interest in or need for any of the one-hundred documents with classification markings. Classified documents are marked to show they are classified… For this reason, a person may have access to classified information only if, among other requirements, he ‘has a need-to-know the information.’

“Plaintiff has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents. Nor has he established that the current administration has waived that requirement for these documents.”

Ouch
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81706914


Lol.

He had declassified them.

It's like we on on planet of the apes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84199083


Then why does Trump refuse to confirm that in court filings?

Thread: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say.

The DOJ’s filing in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit swung back at Trump’s lawyers, who earlier Tuesday asked the court to preserve a ruling from a lower federal judge that blocked the government from examining the seized documents.

Trump “again implies that he could have declassified the records before leaving office,” federal prosecutors wrote.

“As before, however, Plaintiff conspicuously fails to represent, much less show, that he actually took that step,” they wrote, referring to Trump.

The DOJ lawyers added that Trump “is now resisting” a request by a court-appointed special master for him to provide evidence that he declassified records that were seized.
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"If the government gives me prima facie evidence (a legal term meaning a fact presumed to be true unless disproved) that this is classified, and you decide not to advance a claim of declassification ... as far as I'm concerned that's the end of it," Dearie told Trump's lawyers in his first public hearing on the matter.

Roughly 100 of the documents seized in the court-approved Aug. 8 search at Trump's home in the Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach had classified markings. Trump's attorney James Trusty told Dearie it is too early to say Trump had used his powers while still president to declassify the documents - a stance that Dearie suggested weakened the claim.

"You can't have your cake and eat it," the judge said.
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Legal opinions viva the hate Trump press.

Yeah, you're convincing.

I'll wait to hear what real attorneys say about this legal strategy since Trump has excellent attorneys far and above non practicing legal journalists with institutional biases.
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Any thought of US constitution or freedom is gone when they use gov power for political trivial shit like left over documents at a former Presidents home.

Tyranny reigns in the USA.
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Timing is everything.
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Drag it out to mid term elections then let's see which way the wind blows.

Sounds to me Joe Biden's poll numbers are so low, I'd be surprised if the mid terms were not a blow out for MAGA republicans.
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More compromised judges who would have thought.
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Damn…the appellate court opinion was scathing.

This:

“We cannot discern why Plaintiff would have an individual interest in or need for any of the one-hundred documents with classification markings. Classified documents are marked to show they are classified… For this reason, a person may have access to classified information only if, among other requirements, he ‘has a need-to-know the information.’

“Plaintiff has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents. Nor has he established that the current administration has waived that requirement for these documents.”

Ouch
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81706914


Lol.

He had declassified them.

It's like we on on planet of the apes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84199083


Then why does Trump refuse to confirm that in court filings?

Thread: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say.

The DOJ’s filing in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit swung back at Trump’s lawyers, who earlier Tuesday asked the court to preserve a ruling from a lower federal judge that blocked the government from examining the seized documents.

Trump “again implies that he could have declassified the records before leaving office,” federal prosecutors wrote.

“As before, however, Plaintiff conspicuously fails to represent, much less show, that he actually took that step,” they wrote, referring to Trump.

The DOJ lawyers added that Trump “is now resisting” a request by a court-appointed special master for him to provide evidence that he declassified records that were seized.
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"If the government gives me prima facie evidence (a legal term meaning a fact presumed to be true unless disproved) that this is classified, and you decide not to advance a claim of declassification ... as far as I'm concerned that's the end of it," Dearie told Trump's lawyers in his first public hearing on the matter.

Roughly 100 of the documents seized in the court-approved Aug. 8 search at Trump's home in the Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach had classified markings. Trump's attorney James Trusty told Dearie it is too early to say Trump had used his powers while still president to declassify the documents - a stance that Dearie suggested weakened the claim.

"You can't have your cake and eat it," the judge said.
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Dearie is only to decide what is attorney/client priviledge. Not what is classified or declassified. Why would he want to know that information?
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11th Circuit is a merry band of homo Democrats.
Ignore, Abort, Retry.
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Timing is everything.
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Drag it out to mid term elections then let's see which way the wind blows.

Sounds to me Joe Biden's poll numbers are so low, I'd be surprised if the mid terms were not a blow out for MAGA republicans.
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They will be.
The question is if they will be accurately recorded as such, or a replay of the 2020 Manufactured Horror.

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This thread is full of glowies.


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This entire site is.
Except for all the sub-Trinity mods, and everyone I've friended.
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Lol.

He had declassified them.

It's like we on on planet of the apes.
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Then why does Trump refuse to confirm that in court filings?

Thread: Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he really declassified the docs found at Mar a Lago. Trump won’t say.

The DOJ’s filing in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit swung back at Trump’s lawyers, who earlier Tuesday asked the court to preserve a ruling from a lower federal judge that blocked the government from examining the seized documents.

Trump “again implies that he could have declassified the records before leaving office,” federal prosecutors wrote.

“As before, however, Plaintiff conspicuously fails to represent, much less show, that he actually took that step,” they wrote, referring to Trump.

The DOJ lawyers added that Trump “is now resisting” a request by a court-appointed special master for him to provide evidence that he declassified records that were seized.
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"If the government gives me prima facie evidence (a legal term meaning a fact presumed to be true unless disproved) that this is classified, and you decide not to advance a claim of declassification ... as far as I'm concerned that's the end of it," Dearie told Trump's lawyers in his first public hearing on the matter.

Roughly 100 of the documents seized in the court-approved Aug. 8 search at Trump's home in the Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach had classified markings. Trump's attorney James Trusty told Dearie it is too early to say Trump had used his powers while still president to declassify the documents - a stance that Dearie suggested weakened the claim.

"You can't have your cake and eat it," the judge said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80863358


Legal opinions viva the hate Trump press.

Yeah, you're convincing.

I'll wait to hear what real attorneys say about this legal strategy since Trump has excellent attorneys far and above non practicing legal journalists with institutional biases.
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But that’s what Judge Dearie, Trump’s hand picked special master said.

He repeatedly challenged Trump’s lawyers for refusing to back up Trump’s claim that he declassified the highly sensitive national security-related records discovered in his residence.

Trump won’t say, except on Newsmax and his Socisl thing.
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11th Circuit is a merry band of homo Democrats.
Ignore, Abort, Retry.
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So the two out of three judges appointed by Trump in this unanimous Dr Jon are “homo Democrats “.

OK. That certainly explains it.
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This is why criminal defense attorneys tell their clients to exercise their right to remain silent.

This will be easy for a prosecutor to pick apart on cross-examination.

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This is why criminal defense attorneys tell their clients to exercise their right to remain silent.

This will be easy for a prosecutor to pick apart on cross-examination.


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This is the most insanely delusional crap he’s ever spewed out of his mouth. I’m just totally astonished by this. I have watched this clip 3 times. His brain is so broken and misfiring more than a 1946 Studebaker. His lawyers are as insane as he is to work with him.

Unbelievable.
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He also said when they searched Mar a Lago, maybe they were looking for Hillary’s emails.

He’s losing his mind



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This is why criminal defense attorneys tell their clients to exercise their right to remain silent.

This will be easy for a prosecutor to pick apart on cross-examination.


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He's teaching about an occult principle where thoughts become reality. Part of the Law of Attraction.
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This is why criminal defense attorneys tell their clients to exercise their right to remain silent.

This will be easy for a prosecutor to pick apart on cross-examination.


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He's teaching about an occult principle where thoughts become reality. Part of the Law of Attraction.
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