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I'm starting to think this is not base reality and this is just a prison for me

 
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I'm starting to think this is not base reality and this is just a prison for me
To recap my thoughts.

I'm not convinced any of you are real.
I'm not convinced anyone else is real.
Reality is so stupid that I don't think this is base reality.
I'm just completely apathetic to life.
I don't care to make friends anymore and I don't care about having goals.
I just exist.
I go to my job. I work. I go home. I wait to die.

Before you respond, remember, I don't think you're real.
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If none of it is real. Its an extention of you.

This is you telling you that this is not real.

Youre not real
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Re: I'm starting to think this is not base reality and this is just a prison for me
To recap my thoughts.

I'm not convinced any of you are real.
I'm not convinced anyone else is real.
Reality is so stupid that I don't think this is base reality.
I'm just completely apathetic to life.
I don't care to make friends anymore and I don't care about having goals.
I just exist.
I go to my job. I work. I go home. I wait to die.

Before you respond, remember, I don't think you're real.
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Exactly how I feel OP

Fiver for you
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Using philosophy this way cripples independent thought by making it a path to mental illness. Remember, people don't just have a knack for this kind of writing; it depends on them doing experiments with people in mental health facilities who have ostensibly come there for treatment. In other words, given the large rate of failure of psychotherapy of all kinds across the board, its real purpose must be to study how to make people sick. And this site has access to the fruits of that research, and makes use of them here. Is GLP on the side of the people, given this state of affairs?
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CYE-perspective
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Re: I'm starting to think this is not base reality and this is just a prison for me
To recap my thoughts.

I'm not convinced any of you are real.
I'm not convinced anyone else is real.
Reality is so stupid that I don't think this is base reality.
I'm just completely apathetic to life.
I don't care to make friends anymore and I don't care about having goals.
I just exist.
I go to my job. I work. I go home. I wait to die.

Before you respond, remember, I don't think you're real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83846684


Depressing isn't it?

When you finally figure out everyone's controlled by Satan...

Here's a song that will cheer you up...


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CYE-perspective
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No, no it isn't.
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You know what is real the time you spent with the ones you loved
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Your not real
TBC-cryn
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You know what is real the time you spent with the ones you loved
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Not if that is solely determined by them it's not.
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ya that is basically the premise of most Buddhist and other traditions, this is a dream, trap of karma, its an illusion, delusion. you describe a negative solipism model of existence, but ya, its about right really. if you get high enough you can break through this reality but it has to be the right way not with their synthetic drugs
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CYE-perspective
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No, no it isn't.
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oh, oh yes it is.
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ya that is basically the premise of most Buddhist and other traditions, this is a dream, trap of karma, its an illusion, delusion. you describe a negative solipism model of existence, but ya, its about right really. if you get high enough you can break through this reality but it has to be the right way not with their synthetic drugs
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Yeah any model of spirituality imposed on this reality is the actual matrix people want to avoid. All of them support some kind of state and every state finds cruelty and dark psychology an acceptable way to control the populace. It's not really important if people make it or don't, because ultimately they won't and the rest is just kicking the can down the road. If you find that insensitive to the fate of humanity, then consider how readily they end an individual human existence with torture and mockery when they think their society is at risk. Not their lives, not their safety, but the social order they identify themselves with. Something wholly imaginary. Why care for a species that cannot and will not further this care as a group? The fact that if people don't then everyone dies doesn't make them any less of a sucker for doing so. The priorities of human societies, and not resources or intelligence, or sophistication of technology are the reason they fail, and every failure is more catastrophic than the last and requires ever more cruelty and deception to stave off. Isn't it time we just accepted the inevitable?
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CYE-perspective
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No, no it isn't.
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oh, oh yes it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84146961


You equivocate and call it perspective. Yet there are facts that are unequivocal to you. The logic is inconsistent because what you're saying isn't true. Adding will and motive to this, you're a liar.
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To recap my thoughts.

I'm not convinced any of you are real.
I'm not convinced anyone else is real.
Reality is so stupid that I don't think this is base reality.
I'm just completely apathetic to life.
I don't care to make friends anymore and I don't care about having goals.
I just exist.
I go to my job. I work. I go home. I wait to die.

Before you respond, remember, I don't think you're real.
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bsflag

I question if YOU are real. You work at a job even though you don't think anything or even your boss is real? That makes no sense. If it's not real - make it real. Do what your heart tells you to do, and go do it. Get happy, and it won't matter either way.
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I look at it this way. I have a chance to do what is right. If I don't then I might have to come back and try it again. You just never know really.
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How do you define real is the question you must first answer?

Wat about your job makes you want to come home and wait to die?

Every so often throughout our lives we are given a crossroads in life. Your freewill allows you to choose the path you feel you need to take.
Nearly all roads will transcend you to the life we have between lives. Although some bring greater adversity. With greater adversity comes opportunity for greater soul development.

Perhaps your not a lost soul. But a soul waiting to fulfill a specific purpose.
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if you get high enough you can break through this reality but it has to be the right way not with their synthetic drugs
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Psilocybin is one such or so eye hear.
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CYE-perspective
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No, no it isn't.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!


oh, oh yes it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84146961


You equivocate and call it perspective. Yet there are facts that are unequivocal to you. The logic is inconsistent because what you're saying isn't true. Adding will and motive to this, you're a liar.
 Quoting: Sweet Jesus!


hesright

people like to comfort themselves with comfortable lies. it's true. little sayings and philosophical musings dressed up as wisdom etc. it's regurgitated over and over again. I get it, the truth can be too harsh for most. we all or most of us do it from time to time even if we know what they are already.
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SWEET JESUS! lol

sorry couldn't help myself. that avatar name is too funny
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ya that is basically the premise of most Buddhist and other traditions, this is a dream, trap of karma, its an illusion, delusion. you describe a negative solipism model of existence, but ya, its about right really. if you get high enough you can break through this reality but it has to be the right way not with their synthetic drugs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84284594


Yeah any model of spirituality imposed on this reality is the actual matrix people want to avoid. All of them support some kind of state and every state finds cruelty and dark psychology an acceptable way to control the populace. It's not really important if people make it or don't, because ultimately they won't and the rest is just kicking the can down the road. If you find that insensitive to the fate of humanity, then consider how readily they end an individual human existence with torture and mockery when they think their society is at risk. Not their lives, not their safety, but the social order they identify themselves with. Something wholly imaginary. Why care for a species that cannot and will not further this care as a group? The fact that if people don't then everyone dies doesn't make them any less of a sucker for doing so. The priorities of human societies, and not resources or intelligence, or sophistication of technology are the reason they fail, and every failure is more catastrophic than the last and requires ever more cruelty and deception to stave off. Isn't it time we just accepted the inevitable?
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the inability to learn from suffering and mistakes from the past is sad on a personal level and applied to some groups. but we also have to factor in some predatory force as well that nudges potential into a darkness. there is a true parasitic force, it seems intelligent, patient, deliberate and there is a trajectory to history that seems to be culminating towards a very certain point and agenda that is indifferent to us and our humanity on a level that is only experienced as evil to us.
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You need a hobby, dude.
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You are 100% right about this not being the base reality and 100% wrong about the rest of us not being “real”. The truth is, none of us (or the rest of the universe for that matter) are “real”. We exist as coded avatars in a self perpetuating autonomous dimension that we can only perceive based on our programming. The real you and the real me are the conscious beings that reside in this extremely limited biological form in this non base form/dimension we inhabit. We are separate pieces of a singular consciousness and we are utterly incapable of perceiving the base reality. Let me try to explain it this way…Imagine our universe is like a computer program, coding on a hard drive. The base reality of our universe is the machinery and the hard drive that runs the program. You can’t see the machinery, because you are a part of the program. The fake you (your physical programmed self you see in the mirror) and everyone else, are basically just an avatar coded (DNA) into the program (the universe). Now, the REAL you is the consciousness (or soul if you prefer) that resides inside the avatar. The real you inside the avatar is the programmer, not the program. Consciousness is mysterious, it is not one thing but multiple things in this analogy.

1) consciousness is both a singular (“God” for lack of a better reference) AND fractured (individual people) simultaneously. It is not a physical tangible thing in our universe (the program)
2) consciousness is the computer programmer, which is built into the program itself. The programmer (the real you, me and everyone else) can alter the program from within.

Before you are born and when you die, your fractured consciousness/soul/real you, goes back to the singular consciousness (“God”). If you’re religious, it can be described In This way. You are made in the image of God. In other words you are a piece of god. In other words, a piece of god is within you. In other words, you ARE god. God is the programmer of this reality…
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You need a hobby, dude.
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ya that is what they say about doing time in prison. work out, puzzles, read, study law (how to get out of this prison realm), or go insane and get eaten up
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ya that is basically the premise of most Buddhist and other traditions, this is a dream, trap of karma, its an illusion, delusion. you describe a negative solipism model of existence, but ya, its about right really. if you get high enough you can break through this reality but it has to be the right way not with their synthetic drugs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84284594


Yeah any model of spirituality imposed on this reality is the actual matrix people want to avoid. All of them support some kind of state and every state finds cruelty and dark psychology an acceptable way to control the populace. It's not really important if people make it or don't, because ultimately they won't and the rest is just kicking the can down the road. If you find that insensitive to the fate of humanity, then consider how readily they end an individual human existence with torture and mockery when they think their society is at risk. Not their lives, not their safety, but the social order they identify themselves with. Something wholly imaginary. Why care for a species that cannot and will not further this care as a group? The fact that if people don't then everyone dies doesn't make them any less of a sucker for doing so. The priorities of human societies, and not resources or intelligence, or sophistication of technology are the reason they fail, and every failure is more catastrophic than the last and requires ever more cruelty and deception to stave off. Isn't it time we just accepted the inevitable?
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the inability to learn from suffering and mistakes from the past is sad on a personal level and applied to some groups. but we also have to factor in some predatory force as well that nudges potential into a darkness. there is a true parasitic force, it seems intelligent, patient, deliberate and there is a trajectory to history that seems to be culminating towards a very certain point and agenda that is indifferent to us and our humanity on a level that is only experienced as evil to us.
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That's absolutely correct. and it is THIS hidden 'hand' if you will that God is literally going to suddenly remove. people might not even notice it at first, but suddenly as things start changing positively in ways most haven't experienced and there is nothing blocking it or getting in the way or fucking things up? people are slowly going to begin to remember what it feels like to be happy again. to smile again. to feel good about the future and life again. That parasitic corruptive force will simply no longer be around to get in the way as it has always done. and that's when you know. we are in for some amazing times and living on this planet. I know this sounds too good to be true, but this is what will happen. That dark hand will be cut off completely. imagine what that means for this world? All the times good things have been co-opted, corrupted, inverted, perverted, darkened etc. you get the idea. now imagine all those good things, ideas, inventions, creations, ideas, ways of living suddenly free to just work now! it will be awesome. things like new healing abilities, free energy everything that has been repeatedly and relentlessly blocked here for so long will now have a chance to expand and grow unimpeded. Most important of all, human CONSCIOUSNESS will no longer be suppressed. all the dark fucks that continue to suppress humanity... gone. well, you've seen super hero movies, people that can levitate, telepathics, psychics. humanity's true potential will be allowed to freely blossom. It's happened before and it will happen again. soon.
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ya that is basically the premise of most Buddhist and other traditions, this is a dream, trap of karma, its an illusion, delusion. you describe a negative solipism model of existence, but ya, its about right really. if you get high enough you can break through this reality but it has to be the right way not with their synthetic drugs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84284594


Yeah any model of spirituality imposed on this reality is the actual matrix people want to avoid. All of them support some kind of state and every state finds cruelty and dark psychology an acceptable way to control the populace. It's not really important if people make it or don't, because ultimately they won't and the rest is just kicking the can down the road. If you find that insensitive to the fate of humanity, then consider how readily they end an individual human existence with torture and mockery when they think their society is at risk. Not their lives, not their safety, but the social order they identify themselves with. Something wholly imaginary. Why care for a species that cannot and will not further this care as a group? The fact that if people don't then everyone dies doesn't make them any less of a sucker for doing so. The priorities of human societies, and not resources or intelligence, or sophistication of technology are the reason they fail, and every failure is more catastrophic than the last and requires ever more cruelty and deception to stave off. Isn't it time we just accepted the inevitable?
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the inability to learn from suffering and mistakes from the past is sad on a personal level and applied to some groups. but we also have to factor in some predatory force as well that nudges potential into a darkness. there is a true parasitic force, it seems intelligent, patient, deliberate and there is a trajectory to history that seems to be culminating towards a very certain point and agenda that is indifferent to us and our humanity on a level that is only experienced as evil to us.
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Rather than a force, I'd say it is a particular kind of administrative decision. You make a choice as an administrator that does harm to a subject to produce an optimal outcome, say. That optimal outcome teases you through almost coming into fruition, but the subject that has experienced the harm as the primary facet of the interaction just can't for the life of him see how benevolent you are in having inflicted it, so the good is lost.

To look at it from a religious point of view--the exoteric one that deceives the populace, not the esoteric one that comes from the belief that the populace needs to be deceived--the initial error is in removing humanity from a human, as indicated by them becoming a subject. Once humanity is altered, the agency on which you predicate moral decisions becomes shakier, as does your own authority to insist on them *as* moral. If morality is the order of the day, then the response is fanatical. Your point is removed from the exoteric entirely, while you voice it in terms of it because the distance between order giver and order taker must be maintained at all costs. This is cognitive dissonance, however credulous or incredulous the subject may be.

'At all costs' includes to authority, to cooperation, to order itself, because a string of definitions such as any verbal argument about the rightness of a method of coaxing obedience is sure to bring up only leads in circles. So if the underlying trust that is the basis of communication is already destroyed by taking liberties too far, we've returned to just making mouth sounds or squiggles on a page.

It isn't so much that other people aren't real. It is that their humanity is clearly by fiat, rather than anything objectively verifiable. All of history is a lie, because it is just drawing circles around the movements and deaths of TALKING ANIMALS now that the axe is laid to the tree at the root, where our understanding of each other as people is subordinated to notions of order and right from an individual head. What is genocide? What is war? What is famine? What are their costs, really, once that human basis of understanding them is reasoned away? They are shifting categories--a matter of perspective, one which didn't matter right up until the very moment it did. As the Bible says, it all depends on WHOSE OX IS GETTING GORED, doesn't it? Well some of us appear to be more human than others. Unacceptable.
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Re: I'm starting to think this is not base reality and this is just a prison for me
To recap my thoughts.

I'm not convinced any of you are real.
I'm not convinced anyone else is real.
Reality is so stupid that I don't think this is base reality.
I'm just completely apathetic to life.
I don't care to make friends anymore and I don't care about having goals.
I just exist.
I go to my job. I work. I go home. I wait to die.

Before you respond, remember, I don't think you're real.
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Perhaps so, fellow traveler. Consider: what is the probability that amidst so much deception and injustice, you have free and instant access to 4,000 years of written wisdom from around the planet in your own language, at the click of a mouse? Read. Try "The Akashic Book of Truth" and regain the ability to GET OUT.
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You are 100% right about this not being the base reality and 100% wrong about the rest of us not being “real”. The truth is, none of us (or the rest of the universe for that matter) are “real”. We exist as coded avatars in a self perpetuating autonomous dimension that we can only perceive based on our programming. The real you and the real me are the conscious beings that reside in this extremely limited biological form in this non base form/dimension we inhabit. We are separate pieces of a singular consciousness and we are utterly incapable of perceiving the base reality. Let me try to explain it this way…Imagine our universe is like a computer program, coding on a hard drive. The base reality of our universe is the machinery and the hard drive that runs the program. You can’t see the machinery, because you are a part of the program. The fake you (your physical programmed self you see in the mirror) and everyone else, are basically just an avatar coded (DNA) into the program (the universe). Now, the REAL you is the consciousness (or soul if you prefer) that resides inside the avatar. The real you inside the avatar is the programmer, not the program. Consciousness is mysterious, it is not one thing but multiple things in this analogy.

1) consciousness is both a singular (“God” for lack of a better reference) AND fractured (individual people) simultaneously. It is not a physical tangible thing in our universe (the program)
2) consciousness is the computer programmer, which is built into the program itself. The programmer (the real you, me and everyone else) can alter the program from within.

Before you are born and when you die, your fractured consciousness/soul/real you, goes back to the singular consciousness (“God”). If you’re religious, it can be described In This way. You are made in the image of God. In other words you are a piece of god. In other words, a piece of god is within you. In other words, you ARE god. God is the programmer of this reality…
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Continued: you wouldn’t be able to experience anything as a singular consciousness, so you are a small piece of the whole and you exist In this lower programming so you can experience life. That is it, that is the point. God (the singular consciousness) wants to experience the universe. For that you need a physics form (your avatar).

There are a few extremely intelligent scientists that have discovered the math for this. It’s difficult to comprehend. It basically says that the theory of space-time is fundamentally flawed. The confusion you have is that you were taught space-time is the base reality when in truth, space-time is another piece of the programming the base reality created. That goes for all other physical laws.

Another analogy: you know how to use an iPhone right? Any clue what the base reality of that iPhone is? Do you need to understand how it’s created, how it functions, the programming languages used, the materials used to even make it? Nope…but it works, and you can manipulate it and bend it to your will.
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To recap my thoughts.

I'm not convinced any of you are real.
I'm not convinced anyone else is real.
Reality is so stupid that I don't think this is base reality.
I'm just completely apathetic to life.
I don't care to make friends anymore and I don't care about having goals.
I just exist.
I go to my job. I work. I go home. I wait to die.

Before you respond, remember, I don't think you're real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83846684


Perhaps so, fellow traveler. Consider: what is the probability that amidst so much deception and injustice, you have free and instant access to 4,000 years of written wisdom from around the planet in your own language, at the click of a mouse? Read. Try "The Akashic Book of Truth" and regain the ability to GET OUT.
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☝️ The akashic records…the singular consciousness of which we are all a piece of…God…the programmer of this reality.
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Re: I'm starting to think this is not base reality and this is just a prison for me
To recap my thoughts.

I'm not convinced any of you are real.
I'm not convinced anyone else is real.
Reality is so stupid that I don't think this is base reality.
I'm just completely apathetic to life.
I don't care to make friends anymore and I don't care about having goals.
I just exist.
I go to my job. I work. I go home. I wait to die.

Before you respond, remember, I don't think you're real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83846684


Perhaps so, fellow traveler. Consider: what is the probability that amidst so much deception and injustice, you have free and instant access to 4,000 years of written wisdom from around the planet in your own language, at the click of a mouse? Read. Try "The Akashic Book of Truth" and regain the ability to GET OUT.
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☝️ The akashic records…the singular consciousness of which we are all a piece of…God…the programmer of this reality.





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