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SATURN AND THE WAR IN THE HEAVENS

 
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A new sun spells new trouble?

12:50 | 28/ 11/ 2008

MOSCOW. (Andrei Kislyakov for RIA Novosti) - Our Sun is muscling up again. According to NASA, it is beginning another 11-year cycle of activity. Considering that the Sun is to blame for some unfavorable climate changes on the Earth, the coming decade could spell more trouble for our planet.

The first measuring instruments made their appearance 440 years ago. They showed that our nearest star treats the Earth to more than just solar eclipses. Sunspots, solar flares, faculae and other phenomena affect everything on the Earth: from atmospheric events to human behavior. These phenomena are known collectively as solar activity.

This activity, expressing itself through bursts of solar radiation, magnetic storms or fiery flares, can vary in intensity, from very low to very strong. It is the storms that pose the greatest danger to civilization.

On August 28, 1859, polar lights glowed and shimmered all over the American continent as darkness fell. Many people thought their city was aflame. The instruments used to record this magnetic fluctuation across the world went off their scales. Telegraph systems malfunctioned, hit by a massive surge in voltage.

This was an actual solar storm. Its results for humankind were small, because civilization had not yet entered a hi-tech phase of development. Had something similar happen in our nuclear space age, destruction would have been catastrophic.

Meanwhile, according to scientific data, storms of such size occur relatively seldom: once in five centuries. But events with half the intensity happen every 50 years. The last one took place on November 13, 1960 and disturbed the Earth's geomagnetic fields, upsetting the operation of radio stations.

Now our dependence on radio electronic devices is so immense that increased solar activity could disable life-support systems all over the world, and not only on the surface.

America has long been sounding an alarm, because their continent is so close to the northern magnetic pole and is the most vulnerable to solar activity.

A study by the MetaTech Corporation revealed that an impact similar to that of 1859 would incapacitate the entire electricity grid in North America. Even the relatively weak magnetic storm of 1989, provoked by solar activity, caused an accident at a Canadian hydro-electric power plant that left 6 million people in the U.S. and Canada without electric power for nine hours. According to a special report prepared by MetaTech for Congress in 2003, salvage and rescue work to restore power in areas with developed infrastructure could have been launched, according to estimates, only within several weeks or a month.

Poor space weather makes all orbital systems malfunction. According to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, satellites damaged by the Sun cost $100 million per year to repair. Satellite insurance companies paid out $2 billion between 1996 and 2005 to compensate for damage to and loss of spacecraft because of solar effects. A heavy solar storm can cause disruption to space-based navigation systems. Mistakes in coordinate measurements can be as great as 50 m and more, making a navigation satellite unfit for its mission. A serious loss of accuracy in the GPS Navstar system was recorded during a solar storm on October 23, 2003.

The mechanism of solar storms is unlikely to be fully understood anytime soon. On the other hand, space weather is easy to forecast with available equipment. Many years ago, NASA proposed orbiting special probes to monitor space weather. Modern space technology can produce low-priced standardized devices for warning of pending space weather anomalies.

Forewarned is forearmed.

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This doesn't involve Saturn, but DOES have much to do with Pluto, Jupiter, the Sun, Moon and Venus. Saturn is in 21 degrees of Virgo (astrologically speaking, that is), so is merely ASPECTING this major conjunction in a positive way.

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Pluto is there also...
link to forbidden forum here...
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PLUTO/SCORPIO
By Lorae Ireland

The planet Pluto is now in 0 degrees of Capricorn, which is the position of the Winter Solstice. The United States will be experiencing its Pluto Return during the coming years.

Let's look at that symbology:
December 26, Pluto will be in 1 degree of Capricorn so this is the closest Moon conjunction with Pluto near zero Capricorn. In other words, we've got Pluto back where it's not been for 230 years right on the Winter Solstice AND a new moon. (YIKES! December 26 is my birthday. Oh well, we wouldn't want to be bored, would we? lol)

Pluto symbolizes revelations, violent change, off with the old, or the death of the old, and the re-birthing of the new. It can also be said that Pluto is the symbol of atomic destruction, but we're not going there... Pluto in Capricorn should produce all kinds of unveiling, from environmental abuses to financial shenanigans. Pluto/Scorpio is the subconscious, the hidden mysteries, the strong violent undercurrents of our collective and individual psyches.

And what does Pluto have to do with the sign/constellation of Ophiukus? It just moved through it, now moving into Capricornus. Pluto is SLOW. "The wheels of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine."

Scorpio, ruled by Pluto, signifies the hidden, finance and sexuality at the most basic level. There are three levels to Scorpio: scorpion, the lowest expression of that sign, the snake (think of the healer here) in the middle, then the highest, the soaring Eagle who sees all and cares for all. Hence this Ophiuckus gateway is the Time of the Eagle, the final act of the play called the Kali Yuga, but also the doorway to the coming age.

Thread: URGENT NOTICE!!! TO ALL SAGITTARIANS...ESPECIALLY SAG/CAP...TAKE SOME TIME OFF WHILE THE MESSAGES COME IN! (Page 9)
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There will be two more Pluto Moon conjunctions close to this precise point on August 29, 2009 when Pluto is retrograde and September 25, 2009 after Pluto stations direct. Both times the Moon conjunction with Pluto is occurring at 0 Degrees and 42 minutes of Capricorn.
These trigger points are also seeding the holographic field for the next 16 years of Pluto's journey through this domain. end quote



Profound.

What we (all humanity) think, feel and do during these "portals" or gateways (Pluto in 0 degrees of Capricorn) to the coming age is crucial. We're the directors/authors; setting the stage, writing the script and choosing the actors, but mostly acting unconsciously and in our usual somnolent state.

(Those with birthday placement near this area of the heavens may be more aware - depending on the individual consciousness - and some will be major players in this drama. Make the jump into a higher consciousness, which is what Ophiuchus/Sagittarius is all about. However, to do that, you need to know yourself, so becoming familiar with your birth chart is a step in that direction - see below -and/or spending some time with Eagle Flys in a one-on-one.)
[link to mindmatters.21.forumer.com]


The "Return of the Goddess" will NOT be a repeat of past excesses and imbalance. I'm STILL looking for concrete signs/symbols in the skies to affirm my intuition here, looking for symbology of the union of male/female, the union of the old mother/wife/lover goddess with bad girl Lilith, all overshadowed by this Time of the Eagle/Scorpio/Pluto in the open door of Ophiuchus, the healer trained and raised by Chiron, the "Wounded Healer".

Eagle Flys was born in Ophiukus, December 1. He's got Mercury, Saturn and Venus conjunct in Scorpio, with an exact aspect to Pluto in Leo. The Eagle is the highest symbology for Scorpio. Tonight's crescent Capricorn Moon conjunct Venus, Jupiter and Pluto with Mars and Mercury hanging close in Sagittarius is spectacular in tonight's clear night sky. Of course you can't see Mercury or Pluto, but THEY'RE THERE. Big time.
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To familiarize yourself with your birth chart, go to [link to www.astro.com] ;
free horoscopes: astro-click portrait. END QUOTE
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A new sun spells new trouble?

12:50 | 28/ 11/ 2008

MOSCOW. (Andrei Kislyakov for RIA Novosti) - Our Sun is muscling up again. According to NASA, it is beginning another 11-year cycle of activity. Considering that the Sun is to blame for some unfavorable climate changes on the Earth, the coming decade could spell more trouble for our planet.

The first measuring instruments made their appearance 440 years ago. They showed that our nearest star treats the Earth to more than just solar eclipses. Sunspots, solar flares, faculae and other phenomena affect everything on the Earth: from atmospheric events to human behavior. These phenomena are known collectively as solar activity.

This activity, expressing itself through bursts of solar radiation, magnetic storms or fiery flares, can vary in intensity, from very low to very strong. It is the storms that pose the greatest danger to civilization.

On August 28, 1859, polar lights glowed and shimmered all over the American continent as darkness fell. Many people thought their city was aflame. The instruments used to record this magnetic fluctuation across the world went off their scales. Telegraph systems malfunctioned, hit by a massive surge in voltage.

This was an actual solar storm. Its results for humankind were small, because civilization had not yet entered a hi-tech phase of development. Had something similar happen in our nuclear space age, destruction would have been catastrophic.

Meanwhile, according to scientific data, storms of such size occur relatively seldom: once in five centuries. But events with half the intensity happen every 50 years. The last one took place on November 13, 1960 and disturbed the Earth's geomagnetic fields, upsetting the operation of radio stations.

Now our dependence on radio electronic devices is so immense that increased solar activity could disable life-support systems all over the world, and not only on the surface.

America has long been sounding an alarm, because their continent is so close to the northern magnetic pole and is the most vulnerable to solar activity.

A study by the MetaTech Corporation revealed that an impact similar to that of 1859 would incapacitate the entire electricity grid in North America. Even the relatively weak magnetic storm of 1989, provoked by solar activity, caused an accident at a Canadian hydro-electric power plant that left 6 million people in the U.S. and Canada without electric power for nine hours. According to a special report prepared by MetaTech for Congress in 2003, salvage and rescue work to restore power in areas with developed infrastructure could have been launched, according to estimates, only within several weeks or a month.

Poor space weather makes all orbital systems malfunction. According to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, satellites damaged by the Sun cost $100 million per year to repair. Satellite insurance companies paid out $2 billion between 1996 and 2005 to compensate for damage to and loss of spacecraft because of solar effects. A heavy solar storm can cause disruption to space-based navigation systems. Mistakes in coordinate measurements can be as great as 50 m and more, making a navigation satellite unfit for its mission. A serious loss of accuracy in the GPS Navstar system was recorded during a solar storm on October 23, 2003.

The mechanism of solar storms is unlikely to be fully understood anytime soon. On the other hand, space weather is easy to forecast with available equipment. Many years ago, NASA proposed orbiting special probes to monitor space weather. Modern space technology can produce low-priced standardized devices for warning of pending space weather anomalies.

Forewarned is forearmed.

[link to en.rian.ru]
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FYI check out [link to spaceweather.com]
QUOTEAURORA WATCH: High latitude sky watchers should be alert for auroras tonight. Earth is entering a solar wind stream and this could cause geomagnetic storms around the Arctic Circle.
"We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion, or to a non-existent authority, on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the future." ~ Wilhelm Reich
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i can not be controlled by astrology stories because my God changes the times and positions of the universe !He can knock out my star chart and scrabble me a new one!He knows my future and I trust only in his words!I read the red letters often!
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oh and the war.....the creator of all wins!
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The November 2007 Grand Alignment was the precursor to Comet Holmes, another "sign in the heavens": [link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

It's all coming to fruition, the "War in the Heavens", the battle to bring in the New Age, NOW in December, 2008: [link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

This relates to Saturn.
"We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion, or to a non-existent authority, on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the future." ~ Wilhelm Reich
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Iapetus: [link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

BTW, astrologically, Saturn/Uranus/Pluto/Neptune will be putting us through the "grinding stones of the gods" in the next few years.
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]
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Why write about Pluto? Because the United States is experiencing it's Pluto Return. Pluto takes approximately 248 years to make one cycle through all twelve signs. This tiny little planet will be greatly impacting all of us in the next 15 years or so. "The wheels of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine."

Pluto governs complete transformations, death, the underworld, volcanoes, the atomic bomb and the powerful energies of the unconscious. This intense energy, the driving force for power and control, conscious or unconscious, MUST express in the outward reality:

"The Shadow": [link to www.shadowdance.com]

"The psychological rule says that when an inner situation is not made conscious, it happens outside as fate. That is to say, when the individual remains undivided and does not become conscious of his inner opposite, the world must perforce act out the conflict and be torn into opposing halves."
— DR. CARL GUSTAV JUNG


The planet Pluto is now in 0 degrees of Capricorn, which is the position of the Winter Solstice. The United States will be experiencing its Pluto Return during the coming years.

Let's look at that symbology:

Pluto symbolizes revelations, violent change, off with the old, or the death of the old, and the re-birthing of the new. Pluto/Scorpio is the subconscious, the hidden mysteries, the strong violent atavistic undercurrents of our collective and individual psyches. It can also be said that Pluto is the symbol of atomic destruction (but we're not going there). It's also karma, or "Chickens Coming Home to Roost".
SNIP END QUOTE
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Somehow, this "War in the Heavens" involving Saturn and our space buddy-friends, is related to the recent fire-up of CERN, maybe connected to the HAARP facility in Norway and the spiral lights in Norway.

Next expected move: Blue Beam

Meanwhile, they're moving on all fronts:

Global Warming Treaty in Copenhagen, to bring in the NWO - we voters won't have a thing to say about this, similar to the takeover of Europe by the EU

the Swine Flu caper, which, so far, has flopped;

continuing efforts to undermine our health: with the activities of Monsanto,
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

controlling food production
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

efforts to impose CODEX
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]
Thread: Canada's C-51 Law May Outlaw 60% of Natural Health Products; Big Pharma Pushing to Criminalize Supplements
Thread: Codex Alimentarius (Mandate That Will Starve 3 Billion People to be In Place by 12/31/09)

the pending "healthcare" bill (They'll probably pass this near Chrismastime, so we won't notice.)

controlling water supplies (notice small water companies being bought up by large corporations), legal ownership of all water:
Thread: Siezing Water:The Water Restoration Act of 2007

ect., ect. It's as if we humans were fighting off an invasion/assault and have suddenly been hit on all sides by "everything they've got". This may be a symtom of the weakness of our attackers.

So what's the rush? Are our present (negative) ET masters getting in a panic? Is there some deadline approaching?

FYI: My ET contacts make it quite clear that they're not going to "save" us; they seem to think that we're quite capable of handling this situation ourselves.

So what has changed within the last few years?

Hmm, raising of the mass consciousness, for one. The internet is new to human experience.

But also, massive changes in our Solar System; read David Wilcock and Richard Hoagland for some of that information.

Is there REALLY a Niburu, ala Nancy (cough) out there? (Remember the untimely deaths of Shoemaker and Harrington.)
Thread: Breaking News from around the World We have our Brown Dwarf, interacting with Pluto and Bombardeando asteroids of Oort against Pluto and Jupiter. De J
Swerdlow is hinting something about the Ort Cloud...

Or something we're unaware of because it's never happened before?
Thread: NEW ENERGIES COMING IN

Last Edited by Anka on 12/16/2009 03:04 PM
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Iapetus: [link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

BTW, astrologically, Saturn/Uranus/Pluto/Neptune will be putting us through the "grinding stones of the gods" in the next few years.
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]
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Why write about Pluto? Because the United States is experiencing it's Pluto Return. Pluto takes approximately 248 years to make one cycle through all twelve signs. This tiny little planet will be greatly impacting all of us in the next 15 years or so. "The wheels of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine."

Pluto governs complete transformations, death, the underworld, volcanoes, the atomic bomb and the powerful energies of the unconscious. This intense energy, the driving force for power and control, conscious or unconscious, MUST express in the outward reality:

"The Shadow": [link to www.shadowdance.com]

"The psychological rule says that when an inner situation is not made conscious, it happens outside as fate. That is to say, when the individual remains undivided and does not become conscious of his inner opposite, the world must perforce act out the conflict and be torn into opposing halves."
— DR. CARL GUSTAV JUNG


The planet Pluto is now in 0 degrees of Capricorn, which is the position of the Winter Solstice. The United States will be experiencing its Pluto Return during the coming years.

Let's look at that symbology:

Pluto symbolizes revelations, violent change, off with the old, or the death of the old, and the re-birthing of the new. Pluto/Scorpio is the subconscious, the hidden mysteries, the strong violent atavistic undercurrents of our collective and individual psyches. It can also be said that Pluto is the symbol of atomic destruction (but we're not going there). It's also karma, or "Chickens Coming Home to Roost".
SNIP END QUOTE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 593875

contactees:

Truman Bethurum
Emanuel Swedenborg

Gabriel Green (born 1924 in Whittier, California, died 8 September, 2001, in Yucca Valley, California) was a write-in United States presidential candidate in 1960 and 1972. He graduated with a PhD in physics from U.C. Berkeley in 1953, and made several important contributions to the Standard Model of quantum physics. He is the founder of the California-based Amalgamated Flying Saucer Clubs of America, Inc., and has claimed meetings and telepathic links with friendly extraterrestrials.

He also ran for the U.S. Senate in 1962 in California, winning over 171,000 votes.


Dana Howard

Dino Kraspedon
Buck Nelson

Reinhold O. Schmidt

George Van Tassel (1910-1978)
A contactee, UFO enthusiast and religious type who in 1958 commenced building—but never quite completed— The "Integratron" in the California desert town of Landers. It was supposedly a domed time/energy machine built upon the theories of Nikola Tesla. Created to recharge and rejuvenate people’s cells, at the behest of an advanced entity for a coming space friend “Lord,” it was not without its risks, according to theory. An overcharge could make a person spontaneously combust—or even explode.

Also hosted the annual Interplanetary Spacecraft Convention at Giant Rock, California from 1954 to mid 1970s.


George Hunt Williamson
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thread drift here:

I've always believed that the basis of the Star Trek series were real happnings,
wondered how Roddenbery got the info. Here's what I got in an e-mail yesterday.
("Ashtar Command"??? gimme a break...)


QUOTE FROM E-MAIL:
In actuality, Gene Rodenberry stole the original idea of all the information
that was first contained within that first Premiere Star Trek TV show back in
the `60's, from another contactee, named Jacque Dabier, who was a French Flight
Sergeant during W.W.II. After having contact with the Federation, during the
war, in which his life was saved many times from being killed, because like
myself and you, he was a Volunteer in Earth embodiment, and right after the end
of the war, he moved to the U.S., to the Hollywood/L.A., Calif. area, where he
helped open up a metaphysical group, which was open to the public. He freely
shared with all who came to his meetings, much information about the actual
Federation, which of course, has been around for millions of years, with the
Ashtar Command being a major part of it.

Eventually, a couple of Rodenherry's writers showed up and wrote down all of his
information, but not giving him any credit for the source. And then a few years
later, he hears about the "new science fiction show" Star Trek was going to
Premiere, and to his shock, most of what was shared in that first episode was
totally about everything he had shared. Later, when he attempted to see Mr.
Rodenberry, to discuss about him using all his material, he refused to ever see
him, but then, Jacque and a couple friends forced their way into Gene's
office--and there sat the two writers who had visited Jacque's meetings, every
week, for many weeks, while they copied his information that he freely had
shared with everyone. Gene would not even discuss about at least helping
Jacque, who at the time was financially struggling, and yelled for the security
guards to throw him and his two friends out.

That was the kind off person Gene really was, not the facade that he put on for
the public, and having got to know Jacque through the years, I understood why he
was upset with Gene's greedy and unfair nature, to take advantage of another
person, like he had with Jacque, of taking his material and never giving him any
credit at all. I also hear that Gene used other channels, as the years went by
to get still more ideas--like the Holodeck--
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Sociopaths are specialists in these matters...
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Gulf Oil Gusher a result of "The War in the Heavens"?

There's more going on than can be explained by conventional thinking. Think 9/11...

Whether this was deliberate or not, as I wrote, "They're making the best of it." They can live on a planet which is a desert chemical wasteland, we can't. Consider what they did to Mars. However, any money they make, oil or real estate they grab is collateral benefits for them, NOT the main purpose.

One good thing may come from all of this, which is that lots more people will begin to see how things really are. Unfortunately, this may simply precipitate open rebellion, and we know the plans in place for that.

The main thing for us is to NOT slip into negative emotions. Remember, that's their food. I'm not advocating being in a state of "love and light" denial, but for heaven's sakes, don't FEED them.

Continue to stay aware as to what's happening; for instance, if you live where the poisonous gases can come inland from storms, get out now. Try to stay emotionally stable and grounded.

I keep thinking that there's something more in the works, not of their origin. NASA prints hints every now and then of things happening/coming in space which are unprecidented. It could well be that "their" time is about up, hence the drastic and destructive acts. They will try to take as many of us as they can down with them, and negative emotions will accomplish that.

I still have an emotional sense of unreality. This CAN'T have happened. It's so ELE-awful, I can't blame folks for not wanting to know, so they take in and believe what the TV news tells them to think. (Still, my TV-watching friends and family totally irritate me, mainly because they won't make the effort to find out what's really going on, not just with this Gulf Oil Disaster, but everything. Are they hypnotised? Probably. Pathetic.)

OK, so this is REALLY, REALLY bad, and bazillions of us are gonna die before our time. And the Earth with us. I just can't believe it.

Maybe, just maybe, there's something effective we lowly humans can do to ameliorate this? We'd better smarten up pretty quick, I'm thinking. What makes me think this way is my chemtrail-eliminating modality, which appears to be impossible, but it's actually quite easy.
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]
So what? What? And wishful rose-colored thinking won't solve the problem. Gotta get "outside the box", it's our programmed thinking that's the main obstacle.

What is that programed thinking?
That we are helpless.
That "they" can do to us whatever they like.
That there's nothing we can do about it.

Anyone else have some more to add to this list? What we have to do is examine our belief system, look for the hidden "givens"; the programming runs deep. Once we get the lies out into the light of day, maybe we can begin to think a little more clearly.

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The 'disaster' in the Gulf of Mexico is beyond a false flag; it's an illusion. What I'm about to reveal will more than likely go by the wayside, and the charade will continue. The reason for writing this is not for attention, games, or folly, but to expose the biggest scam in the 21st century, and to relieve some aching hearts. There is no need for fear as this is a staged event. I cannot reveal my sources, they do go straight to the top, but hopefully what I write will echo inside of each person reading this as the truth.

Much of the information I present here cannot be easily verified, fast checked, or ever presented as anything, but hearsay, as they are just words of an anonymous online entity. The Government, corporations, and the people behind them have pulled out all the stops to insure the truth doesn't come out. They are the reason why the beaches have private security contractors, insuring no one is able to gain access to the oil on shore. They are the reason the Gulf of Mexico is a no fly zone. They are the reason why the gulf states are being locked down by military. They are the reason why the well head you see is different in many videos that BP releases. Without this measure of control the illusion would fail. In this post, what I can do is provide leading evidence, or give clues to the truth; from there you can use something that has gone by the way side, common sense.

The large oil spills washing up on the shores are not from BP Deep Horizon. They are indeed from surrounding wells, that were already leaking by design. These wells can be verified through a simple online search. You'll notice that much of the oil is actually in the form of tar. Usually tar balls; sizes of these have reached 2000+ pounds. SNIP
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A giant scam?

[link to antimatterradio.com]
June 22 show


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So, if this is indeed a scam, is this all to get Cap and Trade passed? And to get folks to move from the Gulf shores?

I've wondered how they can be burning with the skimmer ships. If there's methane coming up dissolved in the water, why no explosions?

Hmm, my first impulse was to drive to the Gulf and chuck in a Scarab Trinity. So why would my intuition tell me to do that?
A Scarab Trinity is hell on DUMBS.
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

So, what is in the Gulf? Hmmm?
Atlantis discovered?
[link to www.heralddeparis.com]

I didn't save the URL, but there's a website, "marine" something, that shows where all the ships afloat are. there's quite a gathering of many nations' submarines in the Gulf. Peculiar.

Trying to think "outside the box". IF this is indeed a scam, that would explain my emotional lack of concern.

Just thinking...

My sideways thinking: I'm starting to research a hunch, which is that the Gulf Oil Spill is an unintended result of something else. And what was that? Well, if you mouse-dowse with Google Earth (28 44.20 N, 88 23.23W), the energies near the rig disaster are actually quite nice. So, maybe there is an underwater/underground installation of the "good-guy" ET's there, and this whole thing is part of the war between them and the Reptilians? Certainly explains the news blackouts and that all the facts of this oil spill that just don't add up. Something VERY fishy going on.


Watch this video:
[link to www.welcomethelight.com]

If my hunch is anywhere near the mark, that would very much explain the secrecy and news blackout. Also why help from other nations was rebuffed. I'm just trying to put this together with some concept that makes sense. As I wrote, so far, what we've been able to find out just doesn't add up, so, like 9/11, there's another explanation that should tie all the peculiarities of this together.

Pay attention to Mr. Obama (That critter absolutely gives me the total creeps, sorry, Obama-supporters.) NOT making any positive efforts to handle this properly. Pay attention to Corexit being liberally sprayed, in spite of EPA apparent opposition. So are "they" simply creating as much suffering and destruction as possible from what I'm feeling was an operation that went way out of control for them? Speaking of trouble, what about nuke power plants? Don't they require clean water? Just wondering.

Another thought: Katrina was obviously a dress-rehersal: Many of the same elements there. Remember the caravans of donated goods turned back by (probably) Blackwater thugs. Remember people being FORCED to stay in the city by military/police? Remember that the clear beautiful day before the storm hit, they CLOSED DOWN FLIGHTS FROM THE AIRPORT, which stranded people. Remember them blowing up the levees when the storm didn't flood the city properly? Remember all the displaced people who were put in camps and not allowed access to the outside world. Wonder what happened to them? And so on. Hmm, didn't all the ex-presidents meet for a ceremonial photo-op with Bush Jr.? A celebration ceremony perhaps?

Back to the oil gusher: Now some of this, the extremely lax oversight by the government regarding deep drilling, the sale of stock before the blowup, a long series of obvious actions by the drillers, not just BP, which looked to be disasters waiting to happen, the complete disregard for protecting the esturaries and coastline, etc., are quite likely true, but could be red herrings for researchers. In other words, they WANT us to see this as caused by corporate greed and government incompetence.

What if it's actually something very different? Well, we all know that the occupation of Iraq is because of this war between the Reptilians and the benevolent ET's, which is not even close to the conventional explanations.


Whether this was deliberate or not (That is, they were trying to destroy an underground benevolent ET base, for instance, but something went very wrong - see above video.), they're making the best of it. They can live on a planet which is a desert chemical wasteland, we can't.
"We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion, or to a non-existent authority, on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the future." ~ Wilhelm Reich





GLP