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GatorMclosky User ID: 79159550 United States 10/06/2022 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I own a female pit bull. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70238898 We love her and she is the sweetest thing with tons of personality. We NEVER EVER EVER treat her like she isn't a bomb ready to explode. She has never bitten, never attacked, and when accidently causes any pain or injury during play shows genuine guilt and remorse. We still never ever ever treat her like she wouldn't flip her shit and turn into a murder monster. Never let our guard down. Never off leash in public. Never brought close to people or other dogs without focused attention on behavior and reaction. She's not a toy and she's not a teddy bear (well she is, but just for us). She is a beast built for killing and she is treated as such. https://imgur.com/a/Hu6w8n7 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77391584 United States 10/06/2022 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I own a female pit bull. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70238898 We love her and she is the sweetest thing with tons of personality. We NEVER EVER EVER treat her like she isn't a bomb ready to explode. She has never bitten, never attacked, and when accidently causes any pain or injury during play shows genuine guilt and remorse. We still never ever ever treat her like she wouldn't flip her shit and turn into a murder monster. Never let our guard down. Never off leash in public. Never brought close to people or other dogs without focused attention on behavior and reaction. She's not a toy and she's not a teddy bear (well she is, but just for us). She is a beast built for killing and she is treated as such. I've had pitulls all my life. Until 2019 three of my 4doggies were pitties. All of them beautiful, loving, intelligent, spiritual beings. We always treat all our dogs like they are family, never once had them bite anyone. Two of them passed away from natural causes in 2019. I now have two pitbulls, a Chocolate Lab, and a Jack Russell Terrier. The only one who ever bit anyone was the little Jack Rusell. She jumped out our car after taking her to the dog park and the neighbor kid started running so she chased him and bit him on the leg. If you abuse your children they will grow up mean and angry. If you abuse your animals they will grow up mean and angry. I guess the Jack Russell killed the kid? If not than there is no comparison here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84145995 United States 10/06/2022 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.insideedition.com (secure)] Florida Woman Survives Vicious, 9-Minute Attack by Her Own Pit Bull clip- .. attacked by her 9-year-old pit bull that she later lost her arm. Yasmin Adam got her "gentle" pet, named Sir Hinkles, as a puppy and he was a loving companion until recently.. clip- "People always say, 'It's how you raise a dog that matters.' And I was one of those people. And I do believe to a certain extent that's true. But animals have an instinct they can't overpower and that's what happened with my dog." .. It is NOT normal for a dog to go after a family member someone who is part of their pack. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63560815 United States 10/06/2022 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many examples do you need. Pits DO just snap and KILL inside their own packs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84145995 These dogs KILL. This woman is dead. . DEAD. Over. a. DOG. No, they don't just "snap". Like ALL PACK ANIMALS, they are instinctually defending, protecting or establishing a pack animal hierarchy. They do not just "snap"...or as the other AC said, have a "psychotic break". That's your assessment based on emotion, not fact. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84145995 United States 10/06/2022 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many examples do you need. Pits DO just snap and KILL inside their own packs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84145995 These dogs KILL. This woman is dead. . DEAD. Over. a. DOG. No, they don't just "snap". Like ALL PACK ANIMALS, they are instinctually defending, protecting or establishing a pack animal hierarchy. They do not just "snap"...or as the other AC said, have a "psychotic break". That's your assessment based on emotion, not fact. . Read the post directly above yours. The women got the dog as a puppy, the dog slept with her and then later ate her arm off! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63560815 United States 10/06/2022 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.insideedition.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84145995 Florida Woman Survives Vicious, 9-Minute Attack by Her Own Pit Bull clip- .. attacked by her 9-year-old pit bull that she later lost her arm. Yasmin Adam got her "gentle" pet, named Sir Hinkles, as a puppy and he was a loving companion until recently.. clip- "People always say, 'It's how you raise a dog that matters.' And I was one of those people. And I do believe to a certain extent that's true. But animals have an instinct they can't overpower and that's what happened with my dog." .. It is NOT normal for a dog to go after a family member someone who is part of their pack. . Yes, it is if they are establishing pack hierarchy and especially in the case of an owner NOT establishing ALPHA position over the dog or dogs (pack). . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77391584 United States 10/06/2022 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39398359 Most practical, logical common sense post of the thread! Someone who doesnt live in fear of everything that can harm you. Other dogs aren't going around killing people like Pits do. Plenty of articles of pibull attacks that lead to death. Please show me articles of other breeds please. Rottweilers kill over 300 people every year liar, your not intitled to your fear filled facts. Facts are facts, but 300 a year for Rotts, not a fact. Top Three Breeds Responsible for Fatal Dog Attacks Pitbull – 185 deaths Pitbull Mix – 41 deaths Rotweiller – 26 deaths [link to www.coloradoinjurylaw.com (secure)] [link to www.forbes.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84145995 United States 10/06/2022 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to toofab.com (secure)] Mom Who Lost Both Arms Saving Son From Family Pit Bull Dies One Week Later Heather Pingel, 35, died eight days after fighting the dog off her four-year-old son, after it attacked him in their family home in Bowler, Wisconsin. These dogs attack inside their own pack. tons of article to support this behavior. Dead. over. a. family. pet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63560815 United States 10/06/2022 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many examples do you need. Pits DO just snap and KILL inside their own packs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84145995 These dogs KILL. This woman is dead. . DEAD. Over. a. DOG. No, they don't just "snap". Like ALL PACK ANIMALS, they are instinctually defending, protecting or establishing a pack animal hierarchy. They do not just "snap"...or as the other AC said, have a "psychotic break". That's your assessment based on emotion, not fact. . Read the post directly above yours. The women got the dog as a puppy, the dog slept with her and then later ate her arm off! . Yes, the article proves my point: dogs are animals...pack animals. The owner allowed the dog to be the alpha (of the pack) rather than commanding this position herself through proper training and dog ownership...regardless of breed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77391584 United States 10/06/2022 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Other dogs aren't going around killing people like Pits do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82096479 Plenty of articles of pibull attacks that lead to death. Please show me articles of other breeds please. Educate yourself! Many pages of examples of Rotts alone. These are ANIMALS inclusive of the bully breeds and the aggressive chiahuahuas. ALL animals should be treated and respected as such. It's not the breed. Relative's Rottweiler Kills 7-Year Old Girl, Injures Adult Female in Waynesboro, Virginia [link to blog.dogsbite.org (secure)] Dog which fatally attacked boy in Egdon was a Rottweiler [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] Family Rottweilers attack and kill 10-month-old baby in North Carolina [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] Rottweilers Attack Child in Newton [link to www.augerlaw.com (secure)] . This is called cherry picking. Post all the dog bites, every single one or stats, like I did. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73077441 United States 10/06/2022 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many examples do you need. Pits DO just snap and KILL inside their own packs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84145995 These dogs KILL. This woman is dead. . DEAD. Over. a. DOG. No, they don't just "snap". Like ALL PACK ANIMALS, they are instinctually defending, protecting or establishing a pack animal hierarchy. They do not just "snap"...or as the other AC said, have a "psychotic break". That's your assessment based on emotion, not fact. . Read the post directly above yours. The women got the dog as a puppy, the dog slept with her and then later ate her arm off! . Yes, the article proves my point: dogs are animals...pack animals. The owner allowed the dog to be the alpha (of the pack) rather than commanding this position herself through proper training and dog ownership...regardless of breed. IT'S FUNNY THESE PEOPLE SAYING PITBULLS ARE DANGEROUS ALSO ASSOCIATE THEMSELVES AS PART OF THE 'PACK'. NAH HUMANS ARE ABOVE THE PACK, THE ALPHAS FAR AND BEYOND, I CAN TEACH A 5 YEAR OLD TO BE AN ALPHA TO A DOG. BUT YET THESE 60 YEAR OLD DUDES FEAR A DOG BECAUSE THEY ARE STUCK IN PACK MENTALITY THEMSELVES. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84145995 United States 10/06/2022 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.insideedition.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84145995 Florida Woman Survives Vicious, 9-Minute Attack by Her Own Pit Bull clip- .. attacked by her 9-year-old pit bull that she later lost her arm. Yasmin Adam got her "gentle" pet, named Sir Hinkles, as a puppy and he was a loving companion until recently.. clip- "People always say, 'It's how you raise a dog that matters.' And I was one of those people. And I do believe to a certain extent that's true. But animals have an instinct they can't overpower and that's what happened with my dog." .. It is NOT normal for a dog to go after a family member someone who is part of their pack. . Yes, it is if they are establishing pack hierarchy and especially in the case of an owner NOT establishing ALPHA position over the dog or dogs (pack). . Establishing hierarchy by killing. Think about it. DEAD. The kids are DEAD. No. This is not a family pet, and it doesn't belong on a public trail or a neighborhood. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77391584 United States 10/06/2022 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dogs don't just snap. Something happened to this poor dog before it was put in the shelter. Either was in a fighting ring or neglected Quoting: OneSweetWorld Indeed. Still my favorite statement in this thread is the "some dogs have a psychotic break". Still laughing over such ignorance. . I've seen many dogs attack unprovoked. I guess it's your ignorance. or inexperience. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63560815 United States 10/06/2022 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Other dogs aren't going around killing people like Pits do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82096479 Plenty of articles of pibull attacks that lead to death. Please show me articles of other breeds please. Educate yourself! Many pages of examples of Rotts alone. These are ANIMALS inclusive of the bully breeds and the aggressive chiahuahuas. ALL animals should be treated and respected as such. It's not the breed. Relative's Rottweiler Kills 7-Year Old Girl, Injures Adult Female in Waynesboro, Virginia [link to blog.dogsbite.org (secure)] Dog which fatally attacked boy in Egdon was a Rottweiler [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] Family Rottweilers attack and kill 10-month-old baby in North Carolina [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] Rottweilers Attack Child in Newton [link to www.augerlaw.com (secure)] . This is called cherry picking. Post all the dog bites, every single one or stats, like I did. No, it's not "cherry picking". It's a response to the exact request made. Read the exchange. I marked the request in red for you. ^^^^ . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84337114 United States 10/06/2022 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: 4doggies I've had pitulls all my life. Until 2019 three of my 4doggies were pitties. All of them beautiful, loving, intelligent, spiritual beings. We always treat all our dogs like they are family, never once had them bite anyone. Two of them passed away from natural causes in 2019. I now have two pitbulls, a Chocolate Lab, and a Jack Russell Terrier. The only one who ever bit anyone was the little Jack Rusell. She jumped out our car after taking her to the dog park and the neighbor kid started running so she chased him and bit him on the leg. If you abuse your children they will grow up mean and angry. If you abuse your animals they will grow up mean and angry. Dogs don't just snap. Something happened to this poor dog before it was put in the shelter. Either was in a fighting ring or neglected How many examples do you need. Pits DO just snap and KILL inside their own packs. These dogs KILL. This woman is dead. . DEAD. Over. a. DOG. Oh MY GOD!!!! On average, a child will die every 5 days in the United States from choking on food. With your logic and most of those on this thread we should halt feeding children immediately. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84145995 United States 10/06/2022 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many examples do you need. Pits DO just snap and KILL inside their own packs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84145995 These dogs KILL. This woman is dead. . DEAD. Over. a. DOG. No, they don't just "snap". Like ALL PACK ANIMALS, they are instinctually defending, protecting or establishing a pack animal hierarchy. They do not just "snap"...or as the other AC said, have a "psychotic break". That's your assessment based on emotion, not fact. . Read the post directly above yours. The women got the dog as a puppy, the dog slept with her and then later ate her arm off! . Yes, the article proves my point: dogs are animals...pack animals. The owner allowed the dog to be the alpha (of the pack) rather than commanding this position herself through proper training and dog ownership...regardless of breed. This breed will naw on your arm until you lose an arm. No. That is not normal. DEAD. The kids in the original article were 2 years old and a 5 month old baby. Don't defend this breed. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73016801 United States 10/06/2022 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many examples do you need. Pits DO just snap and KILL inside their own packs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84145995 These dogs KILL. This woman is dead. . DEAD. Over. a. DOG. No, they don't just "snap". Like ALL PACK ANIMALS, they are instinctually defending, protecting or establishing a pack animal hierarchy. They do not just "snap"...or as the other AC said, have a "psychotic break". That's your assessment based on emotion, not fact. . Read the post directly above yours. The women got the dog as a puppy, the dog slept with her and then later ate her arm off! . Yes, the article proves my point: dogs are animals...pack animals. The owner allowed the dog to be the alpha (of the pack) rather than commanding this position herself through proper training and dog ownership...regardless of breed. Yeah, but very few dog breeds are going to rip your arm off or try to kill you for messing that up. They may snap or even bite, which is bad, yes, but they usually stop almost immediately. Pits don't stop. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63560815 United States 10/06/2022 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dogs don't just snap. Something happened to this poor dog before it was put in the shelter. Either was in a fighting ring or neglected Quoting: OneSweetWorld Indeed. Still my favorite statement in this thread is the "some dogs have a psychotic break". Still laughing over such ignorance. . I've seen many dogs attack unprovoked. I guess it's your ignorance. or inexperience. Your belief that animals must be provoked to attack, defend, protect shows your ignorance and inexperience, not mine. Perhaps you also falsely believe animals operate with the same higher executive functioning brain of a human? . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73077441 United States 10/06/2022 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dogs don't just snap. Something happened to this poor dog before it was put in the shelter. Either was in a fighting ring or neglected Quoting: OneSweetWorld Indeed. Still my favorite statement in this thread is the "some dogs have a psychotic break". Still laughing over such ignorance. . I've seen many dogs attack unprovoked. I guess it's your ignorance. or inexperience. Your belief that animals must be provoked to attack, defend, protect shows your ignorance and inexperience, not mine. Perhaps you also falsely believe animals operate with the same higher executive functioning brain of a human? . SAYS THE ONE WHO ASSOCIATES HIMSELF AS 'PART OF THE PACK'. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63560815 United States 10/06/2022 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, but very few dog breeds are going to rip your arm off or try to kill you for messing that up. They may snap or even bite, which is bad, yes, but they usually stop almost immediately. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73016801 Pits don't stop. "Messing" what up? I posit you've never seen boxers or rotts...or chihuahuas...or poddles...fight. You are inaccurately attempting to make this about the breed. It's not the breed. It's the size of the dog. And how the dog...any dog...has been trained, treated and handled. In other words, the owner. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77391584 United States 10/06/2022 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Other dogs aren't going around killing people like Pits do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82096479 Plenty of articles of pibull attacks that lead to death. Please show me articles of other breeds please. Educate yourself! Many pages of examples of Rotts alone. These are ANIMALS inclusive of the bully breeds and the aggressive chiahuahuas. ALL animals should be treated and respected as such. It's not the breed. Relative's Rottweiler Kills 7-Year Old Girl, Injures Adult Female in Waynesboro, Virginia [link to blog.dogsbite.org (secure)] Dog which fatally attacked boy in Egdon was a Rottweiler [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] Family Rottweilers attack and kill 10-month-old baby in North Carolina [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] Rottweilers Attack Child in Newton [link to www.augerlaw.com (secure)] . This is called cherry picking. Post all the dog bites, every single one or stats, like I did. No, it's not "cherry picking". It's a response to the exact request made. Read the exchange. I marked the request in red for you. ^^^^ . Cherry picking, you posted a few stories. You need to post as many as you see for pits, which would be a few hundred examples. See words in bold, Other dogs aren't going around killing people like Pits do. . And I don't see one article about a Chihuahua killing someone. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84337114 United States 10/06/2022 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: OneSweetWorld Bingo! The truth is all dogs bite!! My parents raised dachshunds, poodles for money they were breeders. Been around animals all my life and i can tell you with absolute certainty they will all bite your ass! Had a shetlend pony that would bite anyone who didnt know how to ride it. Ive been bitten by fish, snakes, birds, dogs, lizards, racoons, even a child will bite your ass if your a prick! If we were all to rid ourselves of everything that might bite us we would all perish from the earth! FACT! The trick is to be wiser than the animals God gave you dominion over! Everything will bite you! Even plants eat meat! FFS grow a pair along with your life lessons so that you live long and are fruitful on the earth. Being scared of everything that can sink a tooth into your ass means you have childlike understanding. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63560815 United States 10/06/2022 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63560815 Indeed. Still my favorite statement in this thread is the "some dogs have a psychotic break". Still laughing over such ignorance. . I've seen many dogs attack unprovoked. I guess it's your ignorance. or inexperience. Your belief that animals must be provoked to attack, defend, protect shows your ignorance and inexperience, not mine. Perhaps you also falsely believe animals operate with the same higher executive functioning brain of a human? . SAYS THE ONE WHO ASSOCIATES HIMSELF AS 'PART OF THE PACK'. Yes, indeed, an owner must establish him/herself as the alpha over the pack. Why? Because this is how PACK ANIMALS behave...not from the logic, reasoning and decision-making of the prefrontal cortex of a human brain. If you own one or more, you are considered by the dog(s) to be part of the pack, and you better damn well take the alpha-leader role if you want to be safe and have a trained dog(s). One must understand and be knowledgeable in the animal's instinct and behavior and train accordingly. You again demonstrate your ignorance in the subject, which puts you at risk around animals. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63560815 United States 10/06/2022 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cherry picking, you posted a few stories. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77391584 You need to post as many as you see for pits, which would be a few hundred examples. See words in bold, Other dogs aren't going around killing people like Pits do. . And I don't see one article about a Chihuahua killing someone. I don't waste time with those who think and communicate like children. A request was made. I satisfied the exact request. There is no argument. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73077441 United States 10/06/2022 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77391584 I've seen many dogs attack unprovoked. I guess it's your ignorance. or inexperience. Your belief that animals must be provoked to attack, defend, protect shows your ignorance and inexperience, not mine. Perhaps you also falsely believe animals operate with the same higher executive functioning brain of a human? . SAYS THE ONE WHO ASSOCIATES HIMSELF AS 'PART OF THE PACK'. Yes, indeed, an owner must establish him/herself as the alpha over the pack. Why? Because this is how PACK ANIMALS behave...not from the logic, reasoning and decision-making of the prefrontal cortex of a human brain. If you own one or more, you are considered by the dog(s) to be part of the pack, and you better damn well take the alpha-leader role if you want to be safe and have a trained dog(s). One must understand and be knowledgeable in the animal's instinct and behavior and train accordingly. You again demonstrate your ignorance in the subject, which puts you at risk around animals. . I THINK I DIRECTED THAT AT THE WRONG PERSON. BUT NO. WE ARE ABOVE THE PACK. IT'S THAT SIMPLE. MAKING YOURSELF PART OF THE PACK LEAVES YOU TO BE CHALLENGED. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63560815 United States 10/06/2022 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I THINK I DIRECTED THAT AT THE WRONG PERSON. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73077441 BUT NO. WE ARE ABOVE THE PACK. IT'S THAT SIMPLE. MAKING YOURSELF PART OF THE PACK LEAVES YOU TO BE CHALLENGED. Whatever words you want to use to describe the hierarchy doesn't change the dog's perception to the training and command. I command the pack as alpha, which makes me part of the pack as seen by the dogs. One could as easily make a similar philosophical argument that placing oneself "outside the pack" also opens one to be challenged. Command the dog(s) as alpha. Full stop. . . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63560815 United States 10/06/2022 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I THINK I DIRECTED THAT AT THE WRONG PERSON. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73077441 BUT NO. WE ARE ABOVE THE PACK. IT'S THAT SIMPLE. MAKING YOURSELF PART OF THE PACK LEAVES YOU TO BE CHALLENGED. Whatever words you want to use to describe the hierarchy doesn't change the dog's perception to the training and command. I command the pack as alpha, which makes me part of the pack as seen by the dogs. One could as easily make a similar philosophical argument that placing oneself "outside the pack" also opens one to be challenged. Command the dog(s) as alpha. Full stop. . ^^ s/b train and command . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73077441 United States 10/06/2022 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I THINK I DIRECTED THAT AT THE WRONG PERSON. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73077441 BUT NO. WE ARE ABOVE THE PACK. IT'S THAT SIMPLE. MAKING YOURSELF PART OF THE PACK LEAVES YOU TO BE CHALLENGED. Whatever words you want to use to describe the hierarchy doesn't change the dog's perception to the training and command. I command the pack as alpha, which makes me part of the pack as seen by the dogs. One could as easily make a similar philosophical argument that placing oneself "outside the pack" also opens one to be challenged. Command the dog(s) as alpha. Full stop. . . I ACTUALLY AGREE. IT'S HARD TO SKIRT THE LANGUAGE OF ALPHA. BUT IF YOU PLACE YOURSELF ABOVE A DOG, NATURALLY THE HIERARCHY WILL FALL INTO PLACE. |