Kratom Is Even More Dangerous Than Traditional Opiates

"More dangerous than codeine."

LMAO

You might be right.

Kratom saved my life. I am able to work and care and provide for my family free of prescription poisons.

To each their own.

I call bullshit I’ve been using it off and on for 3 years, I recently had kidney and liver tests and both came out perfect. As for withdraws, all I feel is soreness like I did a 20 mile hike, way less then conventional opiates. It’s also self regulating, as if you do too many days in a row it stops working unless you take way more which will make you sick. Kratom has been a godsend for my depression.

I'd say no better and no worse. At least in most places you won't get arrested for having it. In the long run, it wasn't a great pain med for me, but I won't begrudge others giving it a try.

Are you buying it from the CDC?

If you enjoy being constipated, then it's your medicine.

Opiates are worse.

Pharma shill located.

Most opiate addicts and Kratos user do enjoy that feeling lol

I keep hearing that... I'm a daily user.. I go one to two days without it and guess what.. no withdrawals. Nada.. post your proof or stfu

I'm regular... actually helped with my digestive system.

just look at all the health problems on the kratom section of erowid. kidney problems, stomach problems.

I used Kratom to stay off herion for years. I take suboxone now because in the long run its cheaper since my insurance pays for it. And there is 0 buzz from suboxone

I appreciate your efforts to scare people away, I don’t want everyone finding out how awesome it really is, I have pretty much given up caffeine for Kratom as it is amazing for energy/good mood, so much easier on your body too!

Keep up the good work OP !

There are more opiate receptors in your gut than in your brain. Which is why Imodium works. And opiates are the prescription for out of control diarrhea.

"This message brought to you by the supporters of the billions big Pharma is making.."

Murderna shill clocks in late today.

Nope

Need to get off that shit.

You should only use suboxone for 2 weeks max, while constantly tapering down until the last day.

Only use it to get through the 2 weeksof opiate withdrawels then stop.

Otherwise you are just hooked on the new pharma drugs.

And before you say i dont know what im talking about, i was a pill head for a decade before i turned to heroin for the last 2 years then almost died from an infection.

Been clean 2 years now.

The good news is that you can use kratom in the way i just described to yaper yourself off of suboxone.

firstly, please proof read your one sentence thread.

second, WTF are you taking about? I'm guessing you never even tried it...right?

Kratom is not an opiate, it is an opioid, similar to opioids your body produces. And yes, it's addictive, but the withdrawal is only a fraction of that experienced by opiate withdrawal.

It works for pain and depression; I take it for the latter, and it fucking works better than the array of fluoridated drugs commonly prescribed by doctors, which consequently have a much longer and harsher withdrawal process.

you really made no decent argument for not using kratom. so....STFU!

LOL! I'd say Kratom's three biggest drawbacks are 1. the taste, 2. the amount you have to ingest and 3. the CONSTIPATION you're going to get... which is something nobody ever seems to mention!

In fact, both Acetaminophen and Ibuprofen are actually much harder on your Liver/Kidneys than Kratom. And as for withdrawal symptoms? They are much closer to Caffeine than anything else... but then, Caffeine is pretty addictive itself! Headaches/fatigue for a few days are the norm when weaning yourself off Kratom.

BTW: did you know that in Indonesia -where the trees grow- it's not pronounced "Kray-tum"? The correct way is "Krah-Tom". And as the poster above correctly stated, it's also NOT an opiate but only mimics the effects and your body will naturally expel what it cannot absorb hence the constipation I mentioned, since Kratom is fibrous in nature.

I was selling Kratom [in twelve different stains] long before it became fashionable [and in some states, illegal] and can attest that what I've said above is absolutely true.

BTW: after much R&D I even managed to mask the flavor of Kratom by creating a Chocolate drink powder you simply mixed with water; but the other components made it unprofitable to market!

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WHERE DO YOU BUY IT?

I've heard this parroted for manyyyyy years now. Former active follower of the AKA and current occasional user. In basically all of these reports the user had also consumed large amounts of other drugs or liquor. I would compare the risk factor on par with Kava.

dude...Ive used most drugs to excess, and kratom is by far, one of the least harmful and harsh on your body.

if your consuming more than an ounce a day, it causes constipation. but an ounce of K/day is a lot. IMHO

I've never used it but I knew a guy who was horribly addicted to Percocets and he used kratom to get off of them. He's been Opioid free for almost 8years now.

I don't know anything about it but he swears it's thee cure to Opioid addiction and he found out about it because it was apparently used in Indonesia over a century ago to help ween the population off of opium during their opium crisis in the late 19th/early 20th century.

I suspect the kratom haters are big pharma shills and if the choice is between eating kratom or taking opiods I think the answer is pretty obvious.

False info since Kratom affects every individual differently which is one thing that makes it so unique and why one strain will work better than others in treating specific symptoms.

You do not have to ingest "an ounce a day" to experience constipation, since it all depends upon how your GI tract normally absorbs/rejects nutrients.

But with all the drugs you just admitted ingesting I'm not surprised you cannot tell the difference!

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that's funny, cuz I used Kratom to get off of suboxone.
i dont find kratom to have much of a buzz besides a general feeling of well being and mild sedation, similar to what suboxone did to me, but drugs effect everyone differently.

doctors prescibe suboxone for Kratom withdrawal, which strikes me as wrong, considering how brief Kratom withdrawal is compared to suboxone withdrawal.

Lol, shit doesn't work

that's my experience. you don't have to insult me. most people live their life mostly dehydrated, so....drink some more water Einstein

I bought mine by kilos directly from Indonesian farms, but today you can find it [in states that haven't banned the use/sale] at most convenience stores or head shops.

Here in my city we have several outlets that sell nothing but Kratom... at OUTRAGEOUS markups!!! It can be a high-profit business if you want to get into it but I found it more trouble than it was worth once all the controversy began about how "evil" it was. So these days I've gone back to my greenhouse!

You're the one who used your vast drug experiences to validate your comments. And it's a fact that when you do use "most drugs to excess" you will lose perceptions of their results.

And drinking more water will not alleviate constipation caused by Kratom. A good laxative or high-colonic enema, yes... but plain water? No.