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HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE 51

 
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HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE 51
I was going to post someyhing else along this subject. All the websites along with youtube have droped anything dealing with this matter. HSPD51 look it up, identical to REX84 except for a few diff. Acts of terror within our boundaries or outside our boundaties will enable a swift swing of the pen and we are in a state of martial law.This was signed by Bush without congress overview in early of 2007. [link to www.youtube.com]
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Sorry about the Ron Paul feed , as I mentioned that most of the material I wanted to use is gone ???
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It's about time someone brought this over here. I'd seen it on youtube and another site talking of FEMA building concentration camps in over 600 locations..
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REX84 needed a little adjustment I guess
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Executive Order 12919: "National Defense Industrial Resources Preparedness" signed by CLINTON June 3, 1994, delegates authorities, responsibilities and allocations of F.E.M.A.'s Executive Orders [last entry] for the confiscation of ALL PROPERTY from the American people, and their re-location and assignment to 'labor' camps. ......

Operation Rolling Thunder. Reno and Benson have mentioned this operation which comprises county-wide sweeps of house to house, dynamic entry, search and seizures for all guns and food stockpiles by B.A.T.F., state national guard, activity duty soldiers, as well as local police. This function is also run and coordinated through F.E.M.A.

The above wraps all of the former Executive Orders into one. All Bush has to do to is sign the Directive to execute the Order. "Let's Roll", all over the American people.
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This was signed by Bush without congress overview in early of 2007. [link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Survivor


And, since 'signed' without Congressional input means it is NO LAW AT ALL AND, BY THE CONSTITUTION, IS NULL AND VOID.

So 'Fuk'em Dano!'
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This was signed by Bush without congress overview in early of 2007. [link to www.youtube.com]


And, since 'signed' without Congressional input means it is NO LAW AT ALL AND, BY THE CONSTITUTION, IS NULL AND VOID.

So 'Fuk'em Dano!'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 225509


LOL.. tell em that when they kick in your door.
Signing statements are common although Bush has had more of them than all previous presidents combined. They are law and congress can do nothing about it, only the next president can remove them and I have serious doubts any of the three running will.
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This was signed by Bush without congress overview in early of 2007. [link to www.youtube.com]


And, since 'signed' without Congressional input means it is NO LAW AT ALL AND, BY THE CONSTITUTION, IS NULL AND VOID.

So 'Fuk'em Dano!'


LOL.. tell em that when they kick in your door.
Signing statements are common although Bush has had more of them than all previous presidents combined. They are law and congress can do nothing about it, only the next president can remove them and I have serious doubts any of the three running will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 271412


A law must be a signed bill. If the signing is not part of the bill it is ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Freekin' Americans have shit for brains and don't understand their own government.
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There is a clause in the Bill of Rights that has to do with unreasonable SEARCH AND SEIZURE.
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This was signed by Bush without congress overview in early of 2007. [link to www.youtube.com]


And, since 'signed' without Congressional input means it is NO LAW AT ALL AND, BY THE CONSTITUTION, IS NULL AND VOID.

So 'Fuk'em Dano!'


LOL.. tell em that when they kick in your door.
Signing statements are common although Bush has had more of them than all previous presidents combined. They are law and congress can do nothing about it, only the next president can remove them and I have serious doubts any of the three running will.


A law must be a signed bill. If the signing is not part of the bill it is ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Freekin' Americans have shit for brains and don't understand their own government.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 225509


Like the IRS?
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This was signed by Bush without congress overview in early of 2007. [link to www.youtube.com]


And, since 'signed' without Congressional input means it is NO LAW AT ALL AND, BY THE CONSTITUTION, IS NULL AND VOID.

So 'Fuk'em Dano!'


LOL.. tell em that when they kick in your door.
Signing statements are common although Bush has had more of them than all previous presidents combined. They are law and congress can do nothing about it, only the next president can remove them and I have serious doubts any of the three running will.


A law must be a signed bill. If the signing is not part of the bill it is ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Freekin' Americans have shit for brains and don't understand their own government.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 225509

You have NO idea how the system works, and your ignorance will lead to your suffering.

It IS law until it gets challenged to the Supreme Court and they rule it unconstitutional. That will not happen, so it is enforceable law.

Let's see how tough and smart you are with your "Fuk'em Dano" crap when they come to your door.

It is brain-dead sheep like you that think it can never happen... until it does happen... but then it is too late.

People like you blindly refuse to see our loss of liberty and the destruction of our Constitution. Until one day you will wake up in a fascist dictatorship, and you will gaze around with a stupid look on your face wondering how it all happened.

But don't feel bad, it is the sad fact that most Americans are just as naive and stupid about their world as you are.
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Don't read this post until after you've had your morning coffee. It's really depressing:

<<<Executive Orders (EO)s are decrees that are issued by the President of the United States and which carry the force of law when activated by a president. All EOs are printed in the U.S. Federal Register.>>>

[link to www.sourcewatch.org]

<<<The following are a few examples of some Executive Orders (EOs) and their purposes that relate to a State of national emergency. [1]

10995--Federal seizure of all communications media in the United States;
10997--Federal seizure of all electric power, fuels, minerals, public and private;
10998--Federal seizure of all food supplies and resources, public and private and all farms and equipment;
10999--Federal seizure of all means of transportation, including cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports and water ways;
11000--Federal seizure of American people for work forces under federal supervision, including the splitting up of families if the government so desires;
11001--Federal seizure of all health, education and welfare facilities, both public and private;
11002--Empowers the Postmaster General to register all men, women and children in the United States of America;
11003--Federal seizure of all airports and aircraft;
11004--Federal seizure of all housing and finances and authority to establish Forced Relocation. Authority to designate areas to be abandoned as "unsafe," establish new locations for the populations, relocate communities, build new housing with public funds;
11005--Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, both public and private;
11051--Provides FEMA complete authorization to put above orders into effect in times of increased international tension of economic or financial crisis (FEMA will be in control in case of "National Emergency").
"President William Jefferson Clinton wrote one EO that can cover all of these. He wrote Executive Order 12919 on June 3, 1994, which was released on June 6, 1994.

This EO will be the only thing he needs to enact in order to become a fully empowered dictator. It covers all of the EOs mentioned previously. The only thing this EO doesn't do is define WHAT the "national emergency" would have to be in order for this EO to be signed. Please keep that in mind. Anything can be declared a "national emergency" to facilitate EO 12919 being enacted." [2] >>>
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There is a clause in the Bill of Rights that has to do with unreasonable SEARCH AND SEIZURE.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 401013

LOL

Apparently you have had your head up your ass the past seven years...

we no longer have that protection.

Your heroic Fuhrer Bush administration has taken that and many other Constitutional guarantees away from you via the 'Patriot Act', the 'Military Commissions Act', and numerous anti-liberty signing statements.

Meanwhile, like most ignorant Americans who are only interested in American Idol and Survivor, you have no fucking idea.

You have virtually NO Constitutional rights left, in fact, you can be stripped of your very citizenship if you are declared an 'enemy combatant' by the President and you can be imprisoned indefinitely with no formal charges filed and no right to counsel if you are deemed 'an enemy of the state'.

So, you can shove your clause in the Bill of Rights up your ass because it isn't worth anything.

But do not worry young sheep, those evil terrorists wont get you... your new fascist government will protect you!
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There is a clause in the Bill of Rights that has to do with unreasonable SEARCH AND SEIZURE.
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"The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - G.W. Bush [link to www.youtube.com]
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Well the media isn't going to inform the public. So it is up to us few to try to spread the word .
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Re: HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE 51
This was signed by Bush without congress overview in early of 2007. [link to www.youtube.com]


And, since 'signed' without Congressional input means it is NO LAW AT ALL AND, BY THE CONSTITUTION, IS NULL AND VOID.

So 'Fuk'em Dano!'


LOL.. tell em that when they kick in your door.
Signing statements are common although Bush has had more of them than all previous presidents combined. They are law and congress can do nothing about it, only the next president can remove them and I have serious doubts any of the three running will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 271412

All these orders derive their legality from the original War Powers Act, which itself is unconstitutional. So therefore all Presidential proclamations from that point forward can be considered the same.

However, ultimately it comes down to the use of force: Who has the biggest guns?, and who has the greatest concentration of firepower that is willing and ready to be used when you least expect it in your bedroom at 3:00AM in the morning?

If massive door-to-door searches for 'contraband' ever do happen, and you think you'll hear it coming down the street in order to give you time to slip off, think again. Such a broad program would certainly ensure the entire area was cordoned off first to contain anyone trying to escape. Once your neighborhood is surrounded and cut off, you'll have to become very creative to escape that dragnet.

And if your socialist Democrat neighbors squeal on you for a nice cash reward, you'll remember too late that you just couldn't keep your fat mouth shut, and now you must pay the consequences.

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bump

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