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what supposed "free" western country wins the "award" for worst police state?
POLL: "free" western country that's actaully the worst police state (not China & N.Korea, not western & don't claim 2be free)
 Canada, brought to you by Turd-Oh
 USA, land of the free
 England
 Switzerland
 Australia
 New Zealand
 Germany (or other EU country, please specify)
 Sweden (or other Scandanavian country, please specify)
 Japan (not western, but still 1st world)
 Other (please specify the country in the comments)
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what supposed "free", non turd world, western country wins the "award" for worst, most 1984-like police state?

i'm just back from a long trip and i experienced a somewhat friendlier version of orwell's 1984. don't get me wrong, it was fucking ugly, but well hidden, and most of the people are oblivious, it seems. i had heard this particular place was bad, but now that i saw it first hand, i was angry and a bit shocked at how bad it really was. i will post all about this experience soon and specifics of what i saw after this poll, in the next few days...

but, before i do, i just wanted to get your take on which, pretend to be free, western country you think is the worst. add reasons in your comments, if you'd like. and, since china and north korea are not western, and never pretended to be "free", i left them out of the poll answers, so please don't write them in. yes, i think they are the two worst, but you know what you're getting with them--they never pretended to be free and fair. i'm after the western, 1st world countries that pretend to be freedom loving, but are anything but...

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Re: what supposed "free" western country wins the "award" for worst police state?
hey juan, jhat was the problem with my thread, man?

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thank you to the one who fought against mr. juan.

rofl

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Re: what supposed "free" western country wins the "award" for worst police state?
i was talking with a good friend today about this police state bull shit--comparing the differences in countries and what it all means.

sadly, i think there are a one or two that are the test beds for the rest. the police state is ever encroaching on our liberties and freedoms. the few opt outs that we are now given, in some places, will soon be stripped away as a matter of security or public health. it is sad and scary at the same time. there are only a few places left that are a little bit free. it makes me sad and angry.

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for me, the thing that really hit home was getting coerced into something i totally disagreed with and threatened with a ban from my flight, and the airport, as well as police action and possible criminal charges--all for objecting to a body scanner.

fucking piece of shit jack boots.
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Re: what supposed "free" western country wins the "award" for worst police state?
all of them.

FREE EVERYONE!
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all of them.

FREE EVERYONE!
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yes!!!

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Re: what supposed "free" western country wins the "award" for worst police state?
Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
New Zealand -and I've fo8und that this is hard to explain to Americans has NO Constitution and NO Bill o Rights.
What it does have is a Parliament which according to its own rules has absolute power.
Americans I jnow have said "That's the same as our system because..."
No it's not.
You have two Constitution: one is the original Founding Fathers one, the other is the Corporate Constitution.
We don't have either.
There are a bunch of little Corporations, all owned by Someone so we're under the same control system, but there's nit even a shadow of a Right for an ordinary person.
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Re: what supposed "free" western country wins the "award" for worst police state?
Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
New Zealand -and I've fo8und that this is hard to explain to Americans has NO Constitution and NO Bill o Rights.
What it does have is a Parliament which according to its own rules has absolute power.
Americans I jnow have said "That's the same as our system because..."
No it's not.
You have two Constitution: one is the original Founding Fathers one, the other is the Corporate Constitution.
We don't have either.
There are a bunch of little Corporations, all owned by Someone so we're under the same control system, but there's nit even a shadow of a Right for an ordinary person.
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Neither do we anymore.

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Re: what supposed "free" western country wins the "award" for worst police state?
Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
New Zealand -and I've fo8und that this is hard to explain to Americans has NO Constitution and NO Bill o Rights.
What it does have is a Parliament which according to its own rules has absolute power.
Americans I jnow have said "That's the same as our system because..."
No it's not.
You have two Constitution: one is the original Founding Fathers one, the other is the Corporate Constitution.
We don't have either.
There are a bunch of little Corporations, all owned by Someone so we're under the same control system, but there's nit even a shadow of a Right for an ordinary person.
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thanks for the comment. i went to the north island many years ago and already thought that that place was fucked. i still don't thin they win this poll, but they are definitely still in the running and can win. with horse face soon to go, it will be interesting to see how the next puppet accelerates the facism. cheers, mate cheers
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Re: what supposed "free" western country wins the "award" for worst police state?
Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
New Zealand -and I've fo8und that this is hard to explain to Americans has NO Constitution and NO Bill o Rights.
What it does have is a Parliament which according to its own rules has absolute power.
Americans I jnow have said "That's the same as our system because..."
No it's not.
You have two Constitution: one is the original Founding Fathers one, the other is the Corporate Constitution.
We don't have either.
There are a bunch of little Corporations, all owned by Someone so we're under the same control system, but there's nit even a shadow of a Right for an ordinary person.
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Neither do we anymore.


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yeah, my original homeland, the good old US of A is also close to winning this race, however...

you at least have loop holes around a lot of the tyranny. you can object to unconstitutional bull shit and if you get arrested or harassed for doing so, you still have a court system to fight against it. not saying it is just or that you will win, but you still have a chance. what i experienced, i didn't have a chance.

thanks for your input. cheers

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Re: what supposed "free" western country wins the "award" for worst police state?
what supposed "free", non turd world, western country wins the "award" for worst, most 1984-like police state?

i'm just back from a long trip and i experienced a somewhat friendlier version of orwell's 1984. don't get me wrong, it was fucking ugly, but well hidden, and most of the people are oblivious, it seems. i had heard this particular place was bad, but now that i saw it first hand, i was angry and a bit shocked at how bad it really was. i will post all about this experience soon and specifics of what i saw after this poll, in the next few days...

but, before i do, i just wanted to get your take on which, pretend to be free, western country you think is the worst. add reasons in your comments, if you'd like. and, since china and north korea are not western, and never pretended to be "free", i left them out of the poll answers, so please don't write them in. yes, i think they are the two worst, but you know what you're getting with them--they never pretended to be free and fair. i'm after the western, 1st world countries that pretend to be freedom loving, but are anything but...
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Has to be AUS or NZ for their approach to COVID. I went with NZ. Then again, Canada just made a big gun grab move and they all want to give more power to the WHO.

The biggest threat is the covidians that buy into all of the nonsense and willingly give more power to the authoritarians (for their perceived safety). There are a lot of brainwashed, stupid people out there.
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what supposed "free", non turd world, western country wins the "award" for worst, most 1984-like police state?

i'm just back from a long trip and i experienced a somewhat friendlier version of orwell's 1984. don't get me wrong, it was fucking ugly, but well hidden, and most of the people are oblivious, it seems. i had heard this particular place was bad, but now that i saw it first hand, i was angry and a bit shocked at how bad it really was. i will post all about this experience soon and specifics of what i saw after this poll, in the next few days...

but, before i do, i just wanted to get your take on which, pretend to be free, western country you think is the worst. add reasons in your comments, if you'd like. and, since china and north korea are not western, and never pretended to be "free", i left them out of the poll answers, so please don't write them in. yes, i think they are the two worst, but you know what you're getting with them--they never pretended to be free and fair. i'm after the western, 1st world countries that pretend to be freedom loving, but are anything but...
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not really sure that you understood the question from your vague reply.
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Has to be AUS or NZ for their approach to COVID. I went with NZ. Then again, Canada just made a big gun grab move and they all want to give more power to the WHO.

The biggest threat is the covidians that buy into all of the nonsense and willingly give more power to the authoritarians (for their perceived safety). There are a lot of brainwashed, stupid people out there.
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i hear you. way too many fucking moran tards out there ready to throw all the freedom we have/had away on a whim or glimpse of perceived safety.

those who are willing to trade freedom... they'll never learn, unfortunately.
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what the fuck juan? am i bugging you? fuck off
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CANADA, of course!!!!

^Can't believe you didn't list it!!!! Makes the poll nil and void SFAIAC.
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Macron's police.

The way they acted during the Yellow Vest protests was really horrible, beyond anything.

They followed orders coming from the top.

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Whatever happened to all those Aussies who went into those covid camps? No one talks about this.
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CANADA, of course!!!!

^Can't believe you didn't list it!!!! Makes the poll nil and void SFAIAC.
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canada is on the list...
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Only foreigners call the UK "England", British people always as the "UK" or "Britain". "England" hardly even exists any more.
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Re: what supposed "free" western country wins the "award" for worst police state?
I cant choose between Germany, Canada, and Australia.

Australia didnt allow people to go beyond 5 km from their home and built "covid camps".

Canada imposed vaccine passports across the entire country and didnt allow unvaccinated citizens to travel by plane or train domestically. They converted hotels into covid camps. They forced people to upload medical information to enter the country. They also imposed curfews and was going to tax unvaxxed for being unvaxxed. The politicians in Canada also openly cursed the unvaccinated.

Germany was talking about forcing people to get the shots.

The other countries aren't in the same league as these 3.
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Only foreigners call the UK "England", British people always as the "UK" or "Britain". "England" hardly even exists any more.
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well i'm not british and some of the UK is in the EU (also listed as a choice) and after brexit, england isn't. so, there's that.

what's your point? i never claimed to be british.

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Only foreigners call the UK "England", British people always as the "UK" or "Britain". "England" hardly even exists any more.
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well i'm not british and some of the UK is in the EU (also listed as a choice) and after brexit, england isn't. so, there's that.

what's your point? i never claimed to be british.

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None of the UK is in the EU, what are you talking about?
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The USA does not belong on this list.

Jeez...other than a handful of blue city....you folks had it good.....but that is with lowered expectations everywhere else.
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Only foreigners call the UK "England", British people always as the "UK" or "Britain". "England" hardly even exists any more.
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well i'm not british and some of the UK is in the EU (also listed as a choice) and after brexit, england isn't. so, there's that.

what's your point? i never claimed to be british.

moran
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None of the UK is in the EU, what are you talking about?
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i get confused with northern ireland... not sure about all that and the eu. enlighten me. still doesn't change the fact that i am not from england and never claimed to be.
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Canada was communist long before Justin Trudeau.
Started with his homosexual daddy.
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CANADA, of course!!!!

^Can't believe you didn't list it!!!! Makes the poll nil and void SFAIAC.
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canada is on the list...
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Oh I see you added it.
I click on threads that I don't read until hours (and sometimes days) after. I didn't refresh the tab after you added it.
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CANADA, of course!!!!

^Can't believe you didn't list it!!!! Makes the poll nil and void SFAIAC.
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canada is on the list...
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Oh I see you added it.
I click on threads that I don't read until hours (and sometimes days) after. I didn't refresh the tab after you added it.
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it was there from the start. you can't add to a poll after the initial post, actually. you can change the other text and the title, but no part of the poll can be changed.
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