Why Is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Hated So Much?!

I've always despised delusional nonsense bullshit.

Speculation and interpretation are hindrances to loving God.

Prophecy is useless and usually a lie.

Right now is all there is.

Ummm.... Yes in fact it does. Look at the image in my first post and then watch the video. We are to divide the Word of God correctly.

Then you admit you dont believe in the bible, even though the bible foretold the time we live in now and the near future. Almost 1/3rd of the bible is prophecy (fortelling the future). An excellent documentary on bible prophecy can be seen here:

If you read on, Romans 11:25 "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:"

What are your thoughts on the scriptures below? Just curious. Please don’t vanish Servant of the Lord like you always do after posting walls of hyperlinks with misinterpreted scripture.



And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
Revelation 16:19


And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
Revelation 16:1

So the angel swung his sickle to the earth and gathered the clusters from the vine of the earth, and threw them into the great wine press of the wrath of God.
Revelation 14:19


And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Revelation 19:15




Does not even the devil come in wrath?


Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Revelation 12:12






I could find many more especially in the Old Testament but just curious as to your thoughts? I think I’ve seen you claim the above in your various pre-copy and paste responses possibly over 50 times. Thoughts? And I guess it begs the question, why do you do this here?

Last Edited by Seek^ on 11/08/2022 01:26 PM

NONE of those verses are at the Beginning of the 'Seven Seals'.

You pre-tribbers ASSume that ALL the Seals are wrath.

They aren't.

The first ones are 'the Great Tribulation'.

ALL the New Testament writers say folks will go through tribulation.

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Ummm.... Yes in fact it does. Look at the image in my first post and then watch the video. We are to divide the Word of God correctly.
Hogwash. I can't see 'images'.

You people make claims on shoddy 'division' of scripture.

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Hogwash. I can't see 'images'.

You people make claims on shoddy 'division' of scripture.

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the bible verse is not rapture.. it is about fusion with the Father Spirit within you and it happens INDIVIDUALLY... WHEN IT HAPPENS.. and it destroys the body and your Father Spirit transports your soul to its appropriate level in the mansion worlds.

and you do not have to be Christian.. in fact such might delay it for you because of the lies.

This is the Truth for all humans on every one of the 5.6 trillion worlds in the creation. You ones are seriously deluded by your church leaders

And OP you are one of the deluded.. you have no cosmology background at all.

and most Christians because of gross immaturity are leaving the planet by SHIP.. you see.. even if you leave your body behind at death.. all spirit and bodies if need be are transported by SHIP.. and never by Jesus riding a horse across the sky.. ever.

There are types of angels that can transport souls etc too..

My spirit form from Paradise can self transport// fly space... and I am the earth body of my real being. My earth body is a suit of meat and cannot self transport but my fuller being can.

and most Christians because of gross immaturity are leaving the planet by SHIP.. you see.. even if you leave your body behind at death.. all spirit and bodies if need be are transported by SHIP.. and never by Jesus riding a horse across the sky.. ever.

There are types of angels that can transport souls etc too..

My spirit form from Paradise can self transport// fly space... and I am the earth body of my real being. My earth body is a suit of meat and cannot self transport but my fuller being can.

most of you christians will not be the stay behinds after the magnetic reversal.. You are so mind controlled you cannot learn and you have to go to another place.

The Tribulation in its entirety is God’s wrath and is why the church isn’t here as we are not appointed to wrath. The Tribulation begins with the removal of the church (which immediately precedes the Judgment Seat of Christ for believers in Heaven) as well as the removal of the Holy Spirit which indwells the true believer which is His bride. When believers are removed, so too is the Holy Spirit which is God’s restrainer. This is why the entire seven years is the wrath of God and is why the Tribulation/Great Tribulation is referred to as the 7-year Tribulation.

So where are the scriptures that say these things happen before the great tribulation? You may be guilty of spreading false dogma.

These are resurrection scriptures.

A personal question? Are you preaching what you believe because you think this is the way to witness to people? It is troublesome to give folks the wrong information and harm them spiritually. You might find yourself in the same class as many of the corrupt religious organizations that we complain about.

Your intent may be good but you need to check your facts.

You are no saint, and you arent going to heaven because you believe god premeditated the scapegoat sacrifice of his son, and your sins were cast upon his head.

I know logic, and this ain't it.

That is a whole lot of supposition.

What if the true purpose of the great tribulation is to test the faithful? Are you familiar with the term "dark night of the soul?"

If the Holy Spirit for some reason was removed from us that would be the ultimate test of our faith. It's easy to have faith if you think you are going to get a free ride.

Take a peek in a Roman Catholic Church and look at the walls on either side of the isles. They will have stations of the cross.

I invite you to take a good look at them. They are gruesome. Then come back and tell us we are all getting a free ride.

I do understand that the Tribulation will bring millions and millions of new believers to God, most through death after they have accepted Jesus gift. You miss my point - the Holy Spirit will withdraw from active restraint of evil, but God is absolutely not giving up on humanity. During the Tribulation God sends the 2 witnesses, and the 144,000 for the specific purpose of making God's word known to all, and inviting all to accept Christ's offer of salvation. During the last 3.5 years of the Tribulation is when many, many new Christians will be killed by Satan.

You have some scriptural facts there all padded up with supposition around it. Where are you getting this stuff?

Who wants to miss out on all the fun?

The trib is about over.. it is the giving of truth and its not going well.

You asking or demanding? Mostly the book of Revelation and the Olivet Discourse in Matthew: chapter 24. Where do you get your pissy attitude?

Ehh you are replying in a post with a long sermon on this, why dont you watch it.

Hi Horticulture,

It is most like around at least a billion. The Bible says they are the multitude that cannot be counted by a man. Even so Revelation throws around many numbers even as great as 400,000,000 so if man can see 400 million how much larger is the multitude that man cannot count.

They rather scared of it then hate it.
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They need to wear yellow badges again after what they did to the unmarked

That word salad is just your poorly expressed, muddled opinion.

But you were half right about one thing. "You'll never survive what's coming." But it doesn't matter...because we won't be here.

Exactly! They are just trying to steal our JOY!

Hi Just†Me, I notice that some of the regular Rapture thread spammers have recently started posting on your thread, if they start ruining your thread with dozens of long repetitive posts just use the edit button and they will scuttle away like cockroaches. Just say scam in the report box, there is no need for detailed reasons.

ahhh thanks for the heads up, judethz! but i dont see any other thread than this, got link or you mean this one? i think i know who you mean here.. ill kick him out

Last Edited by Just†Me on 11/09/2022 03:58 PM