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Agent 99  User ID: 77082640 United States11/13/2022 01:59 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that The word "Gaslighting" also gets thrown around too loosely. But it's important to understand both these conditions and the signs of the mental disorder. Basically Narcissists are Self-absorbed people looking to leech off others. They will use lying in the form of gaslighting to get their way. Back in the day these were called conmen. The behavior is dangerous because these people will use ALL means necessary to take from others. Taking time, energy, love, money, space, and giving back nothing in return. Fortis et Fidelis |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33983969  Australia11/13/2022 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that We live in a society where there are to many whiners and cry babies. When someone gets offended, for the most part they cry and yell, youre a Narcissist! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73155369 The people who truly grew up a Narcissistic mom or father know damn well that label is thrown loosely by these cry babies. I had a friend tell me his mom was Narcissistic, ive known his mom for 25 years and she is mentally ill with ocd, she isnt Narcissistic. My mom was the real Narcissist. Literally every convo was about her. You could say, isnt today beautiful and she will literally make it about her and will ramble on about herself. She calls everyone dumb and stupid, and is always praising herself snd wants to be glorified. Shes always talking about her accomplishments and the things shes done. Most people who ive seen labeled as a Narcissist by these cry babies, do not act this way. Even someone with ocd can have a normal conversation with you. You: "Isnt today just beautiful, I love it when the sun comes out after it rains." Them: "Oh yeah, theres a beauty about it that you can actually feel." You know what its like talking to a real Narcissist? You: "Isnt today just beautiful, I love it when the sun comes out after it rains." Them: "Look at what I accomplished in 1997 at this contest. I out did everyone there. there were about 300 contestants and I defeated everyone." LoL im not lying, they will respond with something that has nothing to do with the subject matter and their response will always be about them. You think im lying but im not. It sounds to extreme but its not. You dont believe it to be true because you never experienced a real narcissist! I think you throw around "cry baby" too loosely. There are MANY narcissists out there. Stop thinking you are so special, because it was your mother who is the real narcissist. Only 'you' have the rights to be a cry baby. No one else experienced a narcissist like you did. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States11/21/2022 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that well, but not only that maybe the majority of people are narcissist and /or we all have a bit of it in ourselves. Also, how come adult child is only associated with alcoholics anonymous meanwhile women can act like children and nobody tells them they are childish? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States11/21/2022 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that well, but not only that maybe the majority of people are narcissist and /or we all have a bit of it in ourselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84603315 Also, how come adult child is only associated with alcoholics anonymous meanwhile women can act like children and nobody tells them they are childish? also, we are all children of god. supposedly. anyways, a adult child is literally just, an adult child. not necessarily you know, immature or whatever. Literally Jesus was an adult child, child of his mother and father, and adult. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States11/21/2022 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that well, but not only that maybe the majority of people are narcissist and /or we all have a bit of it in ourselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84603315 Also, how come adult child is only associated with alcoholics anonymous meanwhile women can act like children and nobody tells them they are childish? also, we are all children of god. supposedly. anyways, a adult child is literally just, an adult child. not necessarily you know, immature or whatever. Literally Jesus was an adult child, child of his mother and father, and adult. Oh but you see why now. In the bible they called the man children. who are slaughtered from birth. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States11/21/2022 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that and so adult children is like the symptom, of narcissism ,or of narcissistic parents, who themselvs are also adult children Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84603315 Look at God and Jesus that's the relationship of a narcissistic parent of a man child. or uhh, Golden Child. yup, the Golden Child is like a Jesus or some shit |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84276685 United States11/21/2022 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that We live in a society where there are to many whiners and cry babies. When someone gets offended, for the most part they cry and yell, youre a Narcissist! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73155369 The people who truly grew up a Narcissistic mom or father know damn well that label is thrown loosely by these cry babies. I had a friend tell me his mom was Narcissistic, ive known his mom for 25 years and she is mentally ill with ocd, she isnt Narcissistic. My mom was the real Narcissist. Literally every convo was about her. You could say, isnt today beautiful and she will literally make it about her and will ramble on about herself. She calls everyone dumb and stupid, and is always praising herself snd wants to be glorified. Shes always talking about her accomplishments and the things shes done. Most people who ive seen labeled as a Narcissist by these cry babies, do not act this way. Even someone with ocd can have a normal conversation with you. You: "Isnt today just beautiful, I love it when the sun comes out after it rains." Them: "Oh yeah, theres a beauty about it that you can actually feel." You know what its like talking to a real Narcissist? You: "Isnt today just beautiful, I love it when the sun comes out after it rains." Them: "Look at what I accomplished in 1997 at this contest. I out did everyone there. there were about 300 contestants and I defeated everyone." LoL im not lying, they will respond with something that has nothing to do with the subject matter and their response will always be about them. You think im lying but im not. It sounds to extreme but its not. You dont believe it to be true because you never experienced a real narcissist! I don't like the word Narcissistic. I think it's too nice. I think it softens the blow of what is actually clinical high functioning sociopathy. The high functioning sociopath is a real danger to be associated with. I grew up till I was 12 with a father who was a textbook high functioning sociopath. They say sociopaths will do anything but commit murder. That isn't true. The high functioning narcissistic sociopath murders the soul. They are worse than murderers. They are soul killers. |
| Southern Deplorable User ID: 79946168 United States11/21/2022 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that We live in a society where there are to many whiners and cry babies. When someone gets offended, for the most part they cry and yell, youre a Narcissist! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73155369 The people who truly grew up a Narcissistic mom or father know damn well that label is thrown loosely by these cry babies. I had a friend tell me his mom was Narcissistic, ive known his mom for 25 years and she is mentally ill with ocd, she isnt Narcissistic. My mom was the real Narcissist. Literally every convo was about her. You could say, isnt today beautiful and she will literally make it about her and will ramble on about herself. She calls everyone dumb and stupid, and is always praising herself snd wants to be glorified. Shes always talking about her accomplishments and the things shes done. Most people who ive seen labeled as a Narcissist by these cry babies, do not act this way. Even someone with ocd can have a normal conversation with you. You: "Isnt today just beautiful, I love it when the sun comes out after it rains." Them: "Oh yeah, theres a beauty about it that you can actually feel." You know what its like talking to a real Narcissist? You: "Isnt today just beautiful, I love it when the sun comes out after it rains." Them: "Look at what I accomplished in 1997 at this contest. I out did everyone there. there were about 300 contestants and I defeated everyone." LoL im not lying, they will respond with something that has nothing to do with the subject matter and their response will always be about them. You think im lying but im not. It sounds to extreme but its not. You dont believe it to be true because you never experienced a real narcissist! I don't like the word Narcissistic. I think it's too nice. I think it softens the blow of what is actually clinical high functioning sociopathy. The high functioning sociopath is a real danger to be associated with. I grew up till I was 12 with a father who was a textbook high functioning sociopath. They say sociopaths will do anything but commit murder. That isn't true. The high functioning narcissistic sociopath murders the soul. They are worse than murderers. They are soul killers. Yep. Southern born and raised by the grace of God!! |
| DarkMoJo User ID: 83952723 United States11/21/2022 11:21 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that We live in a society where there are to many whiners and cry babies. When someone gets offended, for the most part they cry and yell, youre a Narcissist! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73155369 The people who truly grew up a Narcissistic mom or father know damn well that label is thrown loosely by these cry babies. I had a friend tell me his mom was Narcissistic, ive known his mom for 25 years and she is mentally ill with ocd, she isnt Narcissistic. My mom was the real Narcissist. Literally every convo was about her. You could say, isnt today beautiful and she will literally make it about her and will ramble on about herself. She calls everyone dumb and stupid, and is always praising herself snd wants to be glorified. Shes always talking about her accomplishments and the things shes done. Most people who ive seen labeled as a Narcissist by these cry babies, do not act this way. Even someone with ocd can have a normal conversation with you. You: "Isnt today just beautiful, I love it when the sun comes out after it rains." Them: "Oh yeah, theres a beauty about it that you can actually feel." You know what its like talking to a real Narcissist? You: "Isnt today just beautiful, I love it when the sun comes out after it rains." Them: "Look at what I accomplished in 1997 at this contest. I out did everyone there. there were about 300 contestants and I defeated everyone." LoL im not lying, they will respond with something that has nothing to do with the subject matter and their response will always be about them. You think im lying but im not. It sounds to extreme but its not. You dont believe it to be true because you never experienced a real narcissist! Yep, 100% agree. My mother was like that, and no it isn't a flaw I have. It wasn't so bad at first, but became horrible whenever they got caught lying. No matter what, if they are ever incorrect, it becomes an absolute fight and screaming match that throws rationale out the window. She nearly drove me to suicide, and I had to cut her out of my life permanently. The years since I did that things have been going upward amazingly. I have also found that any type of rational discourse or disagreement with some people triggers this accusation and I want to slap the shit out of people who do that. They have no idea what it is actually like and it irritates me immensely when these people act like narc victims. Professional Arborist.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84276685 United States11/21/2022 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that It's very hard as a scapegoat child to accept this one truth: once the scapegoat, always the scapegoat. Being the scapegoat like I am can drive you via narcissistic gaslighting and projection to do many things in life you never would have done otherwise. It's all a trick of the narcissist. You have to understand that if you are the scapegoat and not the golden child (and you will definitely know nearly from the cradle on who is who), then you need to realize that you must play the scapegoat and 'escape'. There is no other choice for you. There is no other life option. You will never be the golden child. You will always be abused. You will always bear the brunt of everything. It doesn't matter if you're 12 or 52. Once a scapegoat, always a scapegoat. That means you have to run and find your escape by any means necessary. I'm not saying going no contact is easy. For a while, it might even drive you out of your mind because you have been trained to be a codependent. But during that time you can develop more positive and self-actuating life goals. The narcissist will always tell you that without them you will be nothing. And part of you will believe that. But, as the scapegoat, you must 'scape'. That is the way out. That is the only way out. Let me say that once more if you're not hearing me. If you are the scapegoat of the narcissist, no contact is your only way out. If must be a hard break and it must be forever because the narcissist does not and cannot change. I am convinced that it is a permanent pathology that never departs from the person. It is them. It is their whole being. |
| Annarcy User ID: 84663154  Canada11/21/2022 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that We live in a society where there are to many whiners and cry babies. When someone gets offended, for the most part they cry and yell, youre a Narcissist! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73155369 The people who truly grew up a Narcissistic mom or father know damn well that label is thrown loosely by these cry babies. I had a friend tell me his mom was Narcissistic, ive known his mom for 25 years and she is mentally ill with ocd, she isnt Narcissistic. My mom was the real Narcissist. Literally every convo was about her. You could say, isnt today beautiful and she will literally make it about her and will ramble on about herself. She calls everyone dumb and stupid, and is always praising herself snd wants to be glorified. Shes always talking about her accomplishments and the things shes done. Most people who ive seen labeled as a Narcissist by these cry babies, do not act this way. Even someone with ocd can have a normal conversation with you. You: "Isnt today just beautiful, I love it when the sun comes out after it rains." Them: "Oh yeah, theres a beauty about it that you can actually feel." You know what its like talking to a real Narcissist? You: "Isnt today just beautiful, I love it when the sun comes out after it rains." Them: "Look at what I accomplished in 1997 at this contest. I out did everyone there. there were about 300 contestants and I defeated everyone." LoL im not lying, they will respond with something that has nothing to do with the subject matter and their response will always be about them. You think im lying but im not. It sounds to extreme but its not. You dont believe it to be true because you never experienced a real narcissist! I agree that a narcissistic diagnosis is thrown around freely. Everyone with self interest is a narcissist these days. |
| Annarcy User ID: 84663154 Canada11/21/2022 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that It's very hard as a scapegoat child to accept this one truth: once the scapegoat, always the scapegoat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84276685 Being the scapegoat like I am can drive you via narcissistic gaslighting and projection to do many things in life you never would have done otherwise. It's all a trick of the narcissist. You have to understand that if you are the scapegoat and not the golden child (and you will definitely know nearly from the cradle on who is who), then you need to realize that you must play the scapegoat and 'escape'. There is no other choice for you. There is no other life option. You will never be the golden child. You will always be abused. You will always bear the brunt of everything. It doesn't matter if you're 12 or 52. Once a scapegoat, always a scapegoat. That means you have to run and find your escape by any means necessary. I'm not saying going no contact is easy. For a while, it might even drive you out of your mind because you have been trained to be a codependent. But during that time you can develop more positive and self-actuating life goals. The narcissist will always tell you that without them you will be nothing. And part of you will believe that. But, as the scapegoat, you must 'scape'. That is the way out. That is the only way out. Let me say that once more if you're not hearing me. If you are the scapegoat of the narcissist, no contact is your only way out. If must be a hard break and it must be forever because the narcissist does not and cannot change. I am convinced that it is a permanent pathology that never departs from the person. It is them. It is their whole being. You are a lovely person for sharing this. It’s interesting how people use to run away from toxic people. Seems like we’ve lost our instincts. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84276685 United States11/21/2022 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that That's why I don't like the label 'narcissist'. It's too easy to use. I want the real clinical diagnosis of high functioning sociopathy and borderline psychopathy restored. Because that's what we're really dealing with. I don't want these clinical terms softened at all. |
| Annarcy User ID: 84663154 Canada11/21/2022 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that I agree that the narcissistic label gets thrown about by internet idiots at nearly every opportunity to say something that sounds edgy, but sounds retarded to real victims of clinical narcissistic abuse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84276685 That's why I don't like the label 'narcissist'. It's too easy to use. I want the real clinical diagnosis of high functioning sociopathy and borderline psychopathy restored. Because that's what we're really dealing with. I don't want these clinical terms softened at all. I agree with this, and yet look at where we are. High functioning anti social behaviour is rampant. Not sure how to change that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81851797 United States11/21/2022 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that We live in a society where there are to many whiners and cry babies. When someone gets offended, for the most part they cry and yell, youre a Narcissist! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73155369 The people who truly grew up a Narcissistic mom or father know damn well that label is thrown loosely by these cry babies. I had a friend tell me his mom was Narcissistic, ive known his mom for 25 years and she is mentally ill with ocd, she isnt Narcissistic. My mom was the real Narcissist. Literally every convo was about her. You could say, isnt today beautiful and she will literally make it about her and will ramble on about herself. She calls everyone dumb and stupid, and is always praising herself snd wants to be glorified. Shes always talking about her accomplishments and the things shes done. Most people who ive seen labeled as a Narcissist by these cry babies, do not act this way. Even someone with ocd can have a normal conversation with you. You: "Isnt today just beautiful, I love it when the sun comes out after it rains." Them: "Oh yeah, theres a beauty about it that you can actually feel." You know what its like talking to a real Narcissist? You: "Isnt today just beautiful, I love it when the sun comes out after it rains." Them: "Look at what I accomplished in 1997 at this contest. I out did everyone there. there were about 300 contestants and I defeated everyone." LoL im not lying, they will respond with something that has nothing to do with the subject matter and their response will always be about them. You think im lying but im not. It sounds to extreme but its not. You dont believe it to be true because you never experienced a real narcissist! I think you throw around "cry baby" too loosely. There are MANY narcissists out there. Stop thinking you are so special, because it was your mother who is the real narcissist. Only 'you' have the rights to be a cry baby. No one else experienced a narcissist like you did. Pot calls kettle black, oh dear!  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84276685 United States11/21/2022 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that I agree that the narcissistic label gets thrown about by internet idiots at nearly every opportunity to say something that sounds edgy, but sounds retarded to real victims of clinical narcissistic abuse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84276685 That's why I don't like the label 'narcissist'. It's too easy to use. I want the real clinical diagnosis of high functioning sociopathy and borderline psychopathy restored. Because that's what we're really dealing with. I don't want these clinical terms softened at all. I agree with this, and yet look at where we are. High functioning anti social behaviour is rampant. Not sure how to change that. You avoid at any and all cost. No matter what. You avoid these people that will subtly self-identify as abusers. They might even declare how much they love you. You might even want to believe that. And they know you want to believe that. Fact is that the conception of love that exists within you does not exist within them. I'm saying that the true clinical narcissist is a self-serving reptile to the core. And they never change. Ever. And I mean never ever ever. They will tell you they will change. They never do. You can spend the next 50 years waiting for the sociopath to change. You will die and be buried before that day ever arrives and completely ruin your life being codependent to these soul sucking vampire. That is all they are. They are empty shells of smoke and mirrors. They are nothing but tricksters who play continual head games. And it will never cease until the day you realize you have to own being the scapegoat. And that's the very thing they thought you wouldn't do. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States11/22/2022 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that It's very hard as a scapegoat child to accept this one truth: once the scapegoat, always the scapegoat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84276685 Being the scapegoat like I am can drive you via narcissistic gaslighting and projection to do many things in life you never would have done otherwise. It's all a trick of the narcissist. You have to understand that if you are the scapegoat and not the golden child (and you will definitely know nearly from the cradle on who is who), then you need to realize that you must play the scapegoat and 'escape'. There is no other choice for you. There is no other life option. You will never be the golden child. You will always be abused. You will always bear the brunt of everything. It doesn't matter if you're 12 or 52. Once a scapegoat, always a scapegoat. That means you have to run and find your escape by any means necessary. I'm not saying going no contact is easy. For a while, it might even drive you out of your mind because you have been trained to be a codependent. But during that time you can develop more positive and self-actuating life goals. The narcissist will always tell you that without them you will be nothing. And part of you will believe that. But, as the scapegoat, you must 'scape'. That is the way out. That is the only way out. Let me say that once more if you're not hearing me. If you are the scapegoat of the narcissist, no contact is your only way out. If must be a hard break and it must be forever because the narcissist does not and cannot change. I am convinced that it is a permanent pathology that never departs from the person. It is them. It is their whole being. kinda hard to do that when you need to move away from them not , well, escape from them, which is basically running away or getting kicked out. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States11/22/2022 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that It's very hard as a scapegoat child to accept this one truth: once the scapegoat, always the scapegoat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84276685 Being the scapegoat like I am can drive you via narcissistic gaslighting and projection to do many things in life you never would have done otherwise. It's all a trick of the narcissist. You have to understand that if you are the scapegoat and not the golden child (and you will definitely know nearly from the cradle on who is who), then you need to realize that you must play the scapegoat and 'escape'. There is no other choice for you. There is no other life option. You will never be the golden child. You will always be abused. You will always bear the brunt of everything. It doesn't matter if you're 12 or 52. Once a scapegoat, always a scapegoat. That means you have to run and find your escape by any means necessary. I'm not saying going no contact is easy. For a while, it might even drive you out of your mind because you have been trained to be a codependent. But during that time you can develop more positive and self-actuating life goals. The narcissist will always tell you that without them you will be nothing. And part of you will believe that. But, as the scapegoat, you must 'scape'. That is the way out. That is the only way out. Let me say that once more if you're not hearing me. If you are the scapegoat of the narcissist, no contact is your only way out. If must be a hard break and it must be forever because the narcissist does not and cannot change. I am convinced that it is a permanent pathology that never departs from the person. It is them. It is their whole being. kinda hard to do that when you need to move away from them not , well, escape from them, which is basically running away or getting kicked out. you will have no choice. You cant even get out. You Must Escape. Thats the only way. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States11/22/2022 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that It's very hard as a scapegoat child to accept this one truth: once the scapegoat, always the scapegoat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84276685 Being the scapegoat like I am can drive you via narcissistic gaslighting and projection to do many things in life you never would have done otherwise. It's all a trick of the narcissist. You have to understand that if you are the scapegoat and not the golden child (and you will definitely know nearly from the cradle on who is who), then you need to realize that you must play the scapegoat and 'escape'. There is no other choice for you. There is no other life option. You will never be the golden child. You will always be abused. You will always bear the brunt of everything. It doesn't matter if you're 12 or 52. Once a scapegoat, always a scapegoat. That means you have to run and find your escape by any means necessary. I'm not saying going no contact is easy. For a while, it might even drive you out of your mind because you have been trained to be a codependent. But during that time you can develop more positive and self-actuating life goals. The narcissist will always tell you that without them you will be nothing. And part of you will believe that. But, as the scapegoat, you must 'scape'. That is the way out. That is the only way out. Let me say that once more if you're not hearing me. If you are the scapegoat of the narcissist, no contact is your only way out. If must be a hard break and it must be forever because the narcissist does not and cannot change. I am convinced that it is a permanent pathology that never departs from the person. It is them. It is their whole being. kinda hard to do that when you need to move away from them not , well, escape from them, which is basically running away or getting kicked out. you will have no choice. You cant even get out. You Must Escape. Thats the only way. so yeah that's nice. The parent that forces you into this hell is also gonna try to kick you out. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84603315 United States11/22/2022 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that It's very hard as a scapegoat child to accept this one truth: once the scapegoat, always the scapegoat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84276685 Being the scapegoat like I am can drive you via narcissistic gaslighting and projection to do many things in life you never would have done otherwise. It's all a trick of the narcissist. You have to understand that if you are the scapegoat and not the golden child (and you will definitely know nearly from the cradle on who is who), then you need to realize that you must play the scapegoat and 'escape'. There is no other choice for you. There is no other life option. You will never be the golden child. You will always be abused. You will always bear the brunt of everything. It doesn't matter if you're 12 or 52. Once a scapegoat, always a scapegoat. That means you have to run and find your escape by any means necessary. I'm not saying going no contact is easy. For a while, it might even drive you out of your mind because you have been trained to be a codependent. But during that time you can develop more positive and self-actuating life goals. The narcissist will always tell you that without them you will be nothing. And part of you will believe that. But, as the scapegoat, you must 'scape'. That is the way out. That is the only way out. Let me say that once more if you're not hearing me. If you are the scapegoat of the narcissist, no contact is your only way out. If must be a hard break and it must be forever because the narcissist does not and cannot change. I am convinced that it is a permanent pathology that never departs from the person. It is them. It is their whole being. kinda hard to do that when you need to move away from them not , well, escape from them, which is basically running away or getting kicked out. thing is you wont even be able to move out on your own. You must Escape. or be kicked out. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81793938 United States11/22/2022 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The "Narcissistic" word gets thrown to loosely and doesnt apply to most people who are labeled that We live in a society where there are to many whiners and cry babies. When someone gets offended, for the most part they cry and yell, youre a Narcissist! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73155369 The people who truly grew up a Narcissistic mom or father know damn well that label is thrown loosely by these cry babies. I had a friend tell me his mom was Narcissistic, ive known his mom for 25 years and she is mentally ill with ocd, she isnt Narcissistic. My mom was the real Narcissist. Literally every convo was about her. You could say, isnt today beautiful and she will literally make it about her and will ramble on about herself. She calls everyone dumb and stupid, and is always praising herself snd wants to be glorified. Shes always talking about her accomplishments and the things shes done. Most people who ive seen labeled as a Narcissist by these cry babies, do not act this way. Even someone with ocd can have a normal conversation with you. You: "Isnt today just beautiful, I love it when the sun comes out after it rains." Them: "Oh yeah, theres a beauty about it that you can actually feel." You know what its like talking to a real Narcissist? You: "Isnt today just beautiful, I love it when the sun comes out after it rains." Them: "Look at what I accomplished in 1997 at this contest. I out did everyone there. there were about 300 contestants and I defeated everyone." LoL im not lying, they will respond with something that has nothing to do with the subject matter and their response will always be about them. You think im lying but im not. It sounds to extreme but its not. You dont believe it to be true because you never experienced a real narcissist! I don't like the word Narcissistic. I think it's too nice. I think it softens the blow of what is actually clinical high functioning sociopathy. The high functioning sociopath is a real danger to be associated with. I grew up till I was 12 with a father who was a textbook high functioning sociopath. They say sociopaths will do anything but commit murder. That isn't true. The high functioning narcissistic sociopath murders the soul. They are worse than murderers. They are soul killers. Wow...How long have you been looking for an excuse to blame it on your father? PTSD? |
