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Kaylee and Maddie were in Maddie's room
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Alone.

No murder weapon.

No motive.

Dog.

Two survivors.

No blood trail.

No witnesses.

No suspect.
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How can there be no blood trail when they described it as very bloody. Blood dripping out of the house. Someone must of stayed around and cleaned up. No bloody footprints or finger prints?? Got me thinking how could someone clean up without the other 2 roommates noticing and how did this person have the time to do it?? That would be easy if you already live there. Or if you know the house very well.
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Alone.

No murder weapon.

No motive.

Dog.

Two survivors.

No blood trail.

No witnesses.

No suspect.
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How can there be no blood trail when they described it as very bloody. Blood dripping out of the house. Someone must of stayed around and cleaned up. No bloody footprints or finger prints?? Got me thinking how could someone clean up without the other 2 roommates noticing and how did this person have the time to do it?? That would be easy if you already live there. Or if you know the house very well.
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Made me wonder why they were only asking for cctv between 3am and 6am - doesn't add up. They are saying the call came in at 11.58am.
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Alone.

No murder weapon.

No motive.

Dog.

Two survivors.

No blood trail.

No witnesses.

No suspect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62094575


How can there be no blood trail when they described it as very bloody. Blood dripping out of the house. Someone must of stayed around and cleaned up. No bloody footprints or finger prints?? Got me thinking how could someone clean up without the other 2 roommates noticing and how did this person have the time to do it?? That would be easy if you already live there. Or if you know the house very well.
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The above interview is over on reddit r/idahomurders

Can't post the link to there.

Kaylee's father is clearly frustrated with LE
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Just watched, and indeed he is upset..rightfully so. LE should really be in contact with these parents, if it is only to reiterate the reasons why they can't tell them anything. And offer some sort of counseling during this time.

Everyday that goes by and the parents are only hearing crickets from LE is only making the parents lose confidence in them. That is why dad here is letting it all out, he feels LE is covering it up. He is saying to LE that he does not want to do their jobs, but if they are covering something up in hopes this will fade away.. think again because dad is not going anywhere...he will stay in the public eye to hold them accountable.
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That's a pretty substansial tidbit about the causes of death not matching if true. Could lead to possibly more than one killer. Also the steps comment tells me he believes X & E were the targets, not the girls upstairs.
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That's what I got out of it also. The dad was just on Fox and Friends today. Saying the same thing. So if X and E were in fact the target. No way in hell the roommates didn't hear. My hubby said the LE isn't telling the parents things because they don't want inside info to get out. Just in case the killer is watching. Also, Jack S. who's parents are doctors left that night 5 hours away to his cabin and is now in Africa on a trip. Jack S. is the hoodie guy from the grub truck
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Jack is in Africa? Wow, hadn't heard about that yet.

But I disagree that Jack Showalter is hoodie guy. Not the same body type and personality as Showalter, who comes off as rather introverted. Hoodie guy is still a prime suspect in my book, because the two girls were clearly seen on the food truck footage avoiding him and keeping their attention on him while plastered which isn't easy meaning they felt he was suspicous. And he clearly follows them around on the food truck footage and then breaks off in an opposite direction in a hurry when they try to ditch him.
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“Kaylee’s injuries were significantly more brutal than her best friend’s Maddie’s injuries” - per Brian Entin on his livestream.

Was Kaylee the target?
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“Kaylee’s injuries were significantly more brutal than her best friend’s Maddie’s injuries” - per Brian Entin on his livestream.

Was Kaylee the target?
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Be interesting to know if either Kaylee or Maddie were pregnant at the time of death.
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Just watched, and indeed he is upset..rightfully so. LE should really be in contact with these parents, if it is only to reiterate the reasons why they can't tell them anything. And offer some sort of counseling during this time.

Everyday that goes by and the parents are only hearing crickets from LE is only making the parents lose confidence in them. That is why dad here is letting it all out, he feels LE is covering it up. He is saying to LE that he does not want to do their jobs, but if they are covering something up in hopes this will fade away.. think again because dad is not going anywhere...he will stay in the public eye to hold them accountable.
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That's a pretty substansial tidbit about the causes of death not matching if true. Could lead to possibly more than one killer. Also the steps comment tells me he believes X & E were the targets, not the girls upstairs.
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That's what I got out of it also. The dad was just on Fox and Friends today. Saying the same thing. So if X and E were in fact the target. No way in hell the roommates didn't hear. My hubby said the LE isn't telling the parents things because they don't want inside info to get out. Just in case the killer is watching. Also, Jack S. who's parents are doctors left that night 5 hours away to his cabin and is now in Africa on a trip. Jack S. is the hoodie guy from the grub truck
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Jack is in Africa? Wow, hadn't heard about that yet.

But I disagree that Jack Showalter is hoodie guy. Not the same body type and personality as Showalter, who comes off as rather introverted. Hoodie guy is still a prime suspect in my book, because the two girls were clearly seen on the food truck footage avoiding him and keeping their attention on him while plastered which isn't easy meaning they felt he was suspicous. And he clearly follows them around on the food truck footage and then breaks off in an opposite direction in a hurry when they try to ditch him.
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And one of them said 'fuck you' to the hoodie guy during that footage. I think Maddie.
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That's a pretty substansial tidbit about the causes of death not matching if true. Could lead to possibly more than one killer. Also the steps comment tells me he believes X & E were the targets, not the girls upstairs.
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That's what I got out of it also. The dad was just on Fox and Friends today. Saying the same thing. So if X and E were in fact the target. No way in hell the roommates didn't hear. My hubby said the LE isn't telling the parents things because they don't want inside info to get out. Just in case the killer is watching. Also, Jack S. who's parents are doctors left that night 5 hours away to his cabin and is now in Africa on a trip. Jack S. is the hoodie guy from the grub truck
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Jack is in Africa? Wow, hadn't heard about that yet.

But I disagree that Jack Showalter is hoodie guy. Not the same body type and personality as Showalter, who comes off as rather introverted. Hoodie guy is still a prime suspect in my book, because the two girls were clearly seen on the food truck footage avoiding him and keeping their attention on him while plastered which isn't easy meaning they felt he was suspicous. And he clearly follows them around on the food truck footage and then breaks off in an opposite direction in a hurry when they try to ditch him.
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And one of them said 'fuck you' to the hoodie guy during that footage. I think Maddie.
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Wow. I missed that. I'll have to replay. Thanks!
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I wouldn't know, she yells to much. lolsign
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That's what I got out of it also. The dad was just on Fox and Friends today. Saying the same thing. So if X and E were in fact the target. No way in hell the roommates didn't hear. My hubby said the LE isn't telling the parents things because they don't want inside info to get out. Just in case the killer is watching. Also, Jack S. who's parents are doctors left that night 5 hours away to his cabin and is now in Africa on a trip. Jack S. is the hoodie guy from the grub truck
 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


Jack is in Africa? Wow, hadn't heard about that yet.

But I disagree that Jack Showalter is hoodie guy. Not the same body type and personality as Showalter, who comes off as rather introverted. Hoodie guy is still a prime suspect in my book, because the two girls were clearly seen on the food truck footage avoiding him and keeping their attention on him while plastered which isn't easy meaning they felt he was suspicous. And he clearly follows them around on the food truck footage and then breaks off in an opposite direction in a hurry when they try to ditch him.
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And one of them said 'fuck you' to the hoodie guy during that footage. I think Maddie.
 Quoting: Simple27


Wow. I missed that. I'll have to replay. Thanks!
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The food truck video is super long.

You're better off watching the reels in this Instagram post. One of the reels/clips is of the specific time where that happens. You can clearly hear it.

Not really saying this implicates anyone, but it's important enough to note, in my book.

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Might need an Instagram account to view. Sorry :\
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Jack is in Africa? Wow, hadn't heard about that yet.

But I disagree that Jack Showalter is hoodie guy. Not the same body type and personality as Showalter, who comes off as rather introverted. Hoodie guy is still a prime suspect in my book, because the two girls were clearly seen on the food truck footage avoiding him and keeping their attention on him while plastered which isn't easy meaning they felt he was suspicous. And he clearly follows them around on the food truck footage and then breaks off in an opposite direction in a hurry when they try to ditch him.
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And one of them said 'fuck you' to the hoodie guy during that footage. I think Maddie.
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Wow. I missed that. I'll have to replay. Thanks!
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The food truck video is super long.

You're better off watching the reels in this Instagram post. One of the reels/clips is of the specific time where that happens. You can clearly hear it.

Not really saying this implicates anyone, but it's important enough to note, in my book.

[link to www.instagram.com (secure)]

Might need an Instagram account to view. Sorry :\
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Thanks. I did hear her say that.

I was watching this stream from a few days ago and it actually makes a pretty convincing case that Jack Decoeur could be hoodie guy (at the 18:00 minute mark):



I still don't know though. I feel that we get a pretty good look at hoodie guy's face in the food truck footage and it doesn't look like Jack Decoeur. And Decoeur is pretty tall and hoodie guy seems average height. But who knows, I think it needs further analysis. Hopefully someone will enhance the food truck footage.

And how about the Ring doorbell footage with the guy with the mask (at 32:16 minute mark in video above). Case gets creepier and creepier.
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Yeah, the whole thing is very confusing. I feel for the parents, friends, loved ones, etc.

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I just came across another univeristy of Idaho murder in 2011. It was the professor that did it. Just thought it was interesting that no news has brought this up and Univeristy of Idaho has a huge thing on this every year for a whole month. Interesting thing is that it is supposed to be for Katy who was murdered by the professor...he shot her at her off campus home, but it only talks about suicide prevention...the professor killed himself by suicide after he murdered the student...just odd. Maybe everyone else heard of this already but this was new for me. All I've heard on the news is "this is a small town, nothing like this has ever happened before"....well

[link to www.uidaho.edu (secure)]

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I just came across another univeristy of Idaho murder in 2011. It was the professor that did it. Just thought it was interesting that no news has brought this up and Univeristy of Idaho has a huge thing on this every year for a whole month. Interesting thing is that it is supposed to be for Katy who was murdered by the professor...he shot her at her off campus home, but it only talks about suicide prevention...the professor killed himself by suicide after he murdered the student...just odd. Maybe everyone else heard of this already but this was new for me. All I've heard on the news is "this is a small town, nothing like this has ever happened before"....well

[link to www.uidaho.edu (secure)]

[link to www.cbsnews.com (secure)]
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From the article above:
University officials have defended their response to Benoit's complaint, saying they contacted Moscow police immediately after she came forward. They told law enforcement that a student had been involved in a domestic violence issue but did not detail Benoit's allegations, including claims she was threatened with a gun.

Benoit "did not want us to discuss the allegations in her complaint with police and we honored her wishes," the university said in a statement Thursday.

Unbelievable..she ended up dead because they didn't report it.

I wonder if kaylee reported anything to them also and they never reported it. The stalker theory came from somewhere???
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I just came across another univeristy of Idaho murder in 2011. It was the professor that did it. Just thought it was interesting that no news has brought this up and Univeristy of Idaho has a huge thing on this every year for a whole month. Interesting thing is that it is supposed to be for Katy who was murdered by the professor...he shot her at her off campus home, but it only talks about suicide prevention...the professor killed himself by suicide after he murdered the student...just odd. Maybe everyone else heard of this already but this was new for me. All I've heard on the news is "this is a small town, nothing like this has ever happened before"....well

[link to www.uidaho.edu (secure)]

[link to www.cbsnews.com (secure)]
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From the article above:
University officials have defended their response to Benoit's complaint, saying they contacted Moscow police immediately after she came forward. They told law enforcement that a student had been involved in a domestic violence issue but did not detail Benoit's allegations, including claims she was threatened with a gun.

Benoit "did not want us to discuss the allegations in her complaint with police and we honored her wishes," the university said in a statement Thursday.

Unbelievable..she ended up dead because they didn't report it.

I wonder if kaylee reported anything to them also and they never reported it. The stalker theory came from somewhere???
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Can't find any mention of what the address of Katy's off campus home was in 2011. Would be crazy if it were the same house.

I do remember someone mentioning that there is a restaurant business listed at 1122 kings on map quest that was created around 2011. It was a fb link, but I don't have fb to confirm it.
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I just came across another univeristy of Idaho murder in 2011. It was the professor that did it. Just thought it was interesting that no news has brought this up and Univeristy of Idaho has a huge thing on this every year for a whole month. Interesting thing is that it is supposed to be for Katy who was murdered by the professor...he shot her at her off campus home, but it only talks about suicide prevention...the professor killed himself by suicide after he murdered the student...just odd. Maybe everyone else heard of this already but this was new for me. All I've heard on the news is "this is a small town, nothing like this has ever happened before"....well

[link to www.uidaho.edu (secure)]

[link to www.cbsnews.com (secure)]
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From the article above:
University officials have defended their response to Benoit's complaint, saying they contacted Moscow police immediately after she came forward. They told law enforcement that a student had been involved in a domestic violence issue but did not detail Benoit's allegations, including claims she was threatened with a gun.

Benoit "did not want us to discuss the allegations in her complaint with police and we honored her wishes," the university said in a statement Thursday.

Unbelievable..she ended up dead because they didn't report it.

I wonder if kaylee reported anything to them also and they never reported it. The stalker theory came from somewhere???
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Can't find any mention of what the address of Katy's off campus home was in 2011. Would be crazy if it were the same house.

I do remember someone mentioning that there is a restaurant business listed at 1122 kings on map quest that was created around 2011. It was a fb link, but I don't have fb to confirm it.
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Thread: Idaho stalker (Page 2)
Called "Castle on King" w/ FB account begun in 2010.
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Thanks watched it all
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I just came across another univeristy of Idaho murder in 2011. It was the professor that did it. Just thought it was interesting that no news has brought this up and Univeristy of Idaho has a huge thing on this every year for a whole month. Interesting thing is that it is supposed to be for Katy who was murdered by the professor...he shot her at her off campus home, but it only talks about suicide prevention...the professor killed himself by suicide after he murdered the student...just odd. Maybe everyone else heard of this already but this was new for me. All I've heard on the news is "this is a small town, nothing like this has ever happened before"....well

[link to www.uidaho.edu (secure)]

[link to www.cbsnews.com (secure)]
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From the article above:
University officials have defended their response to Benoit's complaint, saying they contacted Moscow police immediately after she came forward. They told law enforcement that a student had been involved in a domestic violence issue but did not detail Benoit's allegations, including claims she was threatened with a gun.

Benoit "did not want us to discuss the allegations in her complaint with police and we honored her wishes," the university said in a statement Thursday.

Unbelievable..she ended up dead because they didn't report it.

I wonder if kaylee reported anything to them also and they never reported it. The stalker theory came from somewhere???
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Can't find any mention of what the address of Katy's off campus home was in 2011. Would be crazy if it were the same house.

I do remember someone mentioning that there is a restaurant business listed at 1122 kings on map quest that was created around 2011. It was a fb link, but I don't have fb to confirm it.
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Thread: Idaho stalker (Page 2)
Called "Castle on King" w/ FB account begun in 2010.
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Thanks.
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unmasked man and this from p 1 of idaho stalker thread?
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looks like the town maynt want this solved if it brings down the University and all the jobs?
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And one of them said 'fuck you' to the hoodie guy during that footage. I think Maddie.
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Wow. I missed that. I'll have to replay. Thanks!
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The food truck video is super long.

You're better off watching the reels in this Instagram post. One of the reels/clips is of the specific time where that happens. You can clearly hear it.

Not really saying this implicates anyone, but it's important enough to note, in my book.

[link to www.instagram.com (secure)]

Might need an Instagram account to view. Sorry :\
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Thanks. I did hear her say that.

I was watching this stream from a few days ago and it actually makes a pretty convincing case that Jack Decoeur could be hoodie guy (at the 18:00 minute mark):



I still don't know though. I feel that we get a pretty good look at hoodie guy's face in the food truck footage and it doesn't look like Jack Decoeur. And Decoeur is pretty tall and hoodie guy seems average height. But who knows, I think it needs further analysis. Hopefully someone will enhance the food truck footage.

And how about the Ring doorbell footage with the guy with the mask (at 32:16 minute mark in video above). Case gets creepier and creepier.
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The guy wearing a hoodie looks like a plain clothed officer. They are used all the time around colleges. They use them all the time in cities too.

The interview with the other guy there said K and M were getting alot of attention at the bar from guys, so it would make sense this cop would be escorting them out of there and making sure they are safe. They also use them for surveillance if they think drugs are in play..being sold, etc.

I didn't hear maddie saying f you at all.

Here is an article regarding moscow pd uses plain clothed officers and volunteers...they literally dress them in hoodies.

Per article:

Freshman Arya Gibson was walking with two friends near The Perch when her group was stopped by two undercover officers.

“I wasn’t intoxicated, but I was holding a beverage,” she said. “They were just wearing these sweatshirts and these hats and they had like their hoods up and jeans. They looked really casual. They looked like alumni or something.”


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This channel on Tik Tok is pretty good...Here is a pic of Jack S which looks to be a knife in his pocket this person thinks


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COuld it be the blood coming from the 2nd floor was oozing out because someone tried to clean it up?
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So, Kaylee and Maddie BOTH call Jack Decour multiple times in a 20 minutes span just before 3am on the morning of the murders. The murders then occur between 3am and 4am according to the coroner. And they are saying Jack is not a suspect. Right.

And I was watching the "Celebration of Life" ceremony today and another thing stood out for me: the speech given by the other boyfried, Jack Showalter. What stood out for me was that it didn't seem genuine. Seemed rather cold and detached despite all the tears.

I'd say one or more boyfriends is involved.
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Are you thinking of Jake Maddie's boyfriend...So many Jack and Jakes

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