I want to live somewhere cool. I just don't know where that is anymore

Where’s your house?

Its in a suburb of a major Ohio city.

Ohio here too ... but I came back after living in the East, in the South, and in the Southwest. Why? Great people here and there IS lots to do here if you just look.

Every big city in Ohio is very very different from every other city, which makes it an interesting place ... and while there are no mountains there is LOTS of wilderness, great canoeing, the Great Lakes (I love to sail on the Great Lakes), and lots of culture - particularly in Cleveland and Cincinnati. There is also a growing young person cultural thing happening in Cleveland, Columbus, and Cinncinnati - and very good music happening in all three of those places.

My one son left a great job working for Vail Corp in Colorado to return ... he said the mountains were nice but there was actually MORE outdoor stuff here to do that he liked doing than existed in Colorado (he loves the outdoors - part of his soul) PLUS we have a LOT more cultural things going on here than they have there. He hasn't regretted leaving that so called "Cool" place in the least he tells me.

One advantage for middle class people about Ohio is that it is a reasonable cost of living place to live, unlike the Coasts, and in an 8 hour drive one can still be on beaches on the Atlantic Coast, be all the way up to the tip of Michigan (the Northwest side of Michigan is a fabulous place to go in the summer ... and winter), be in Chicago, be in Atlanta, or be skiing in NY State /Michigan /WV. In 3 hours drive time you can be White Water rafting, canoeing, sailing big water. The Cleveland Orchestra is one of the top 5 in the US, usually ranked #3, ... AND you can actually afford to buy tickets to go see them!!

YOU have to decide what FOR YOU is "cool". Every person is different.

Decide what YOU think is "Cool" and where you want to be will just fall out.

(Personally I am thank for for having crappy winters here ... keeps the coastal liberal riff raff away ... which imo is a GREAT trade off!)

Good luck

i'm moving to Satan's capital... Sedona

The south is the new cool.

Lol

Looks nice on google maps photos

You are correct that Ohio has a reasonable cost of living.
You are also correct that if one takes a city like Cincinnati and draws a circle around it of 300 miles, it is drivable to a lot of other cities.

But as far as music and culture goes? Na.
Ohio has a terrible population of human beings. 18% blacks...so about 50% more blacks than the US average + Adams County Ohio is called 'the heart' of appalachia. Meaning there are hill billy whites all over the place.

So that is 40% of the state right there..

And all the cities in ohio are pretty much the same to me (although Cincinnati has hillsides).

Bad Climate + Bad People. It does have a lot of golf courses because of Jack Nicklaus I guess.

Sedona seems a better place to visit than to live.

I don't like it in the South these days.
Everybody kneels, but nobody prays.
-from the song, Ellis Farm

MT, WY, ID, AK, KS, ND, SD?

Satan =/= New Age

Sedona: alleged vortex of positive spiritual energies, the opposite to the Bermuda Triangle. Where New Agers claim to have spiritual experiences and paranormal encounters.

WTF?

^Not a state!

The cool places are where the backpackers hang out:

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Yah, Satan’s capital is Las Vegas. Sedona is beautiful, but FK thhhhhhhhhhat. Great place to visit, but if I had to deal with all those tourists clogging up the roads I’d freak out.

Try Columbus, OH. Still inexpensive and plenty to do.

The
“Land of Entrapment”.
Come
“On Vacation leave on Probation”.
It’s Kool here some times.....Hot as Hell others.
Right now it is “Frigid”.

you sound like an asshole

from ohio

Give me a nice lake house on a mountain side with my own garden and water system. Electric is solar and we nett er is satellite. That’s all I need .. rest is yours.

listen to chat pile.

I have to tell you if you have a little money and can reduce your needs working on the coast or in the mountains at a golf course is awesome,outside everyday home by 330 early wake up but not bad smell of fresh cut grass ....good stuff maynard

those can be concealed pipe bombs. i will not go near backpackers anymore

crappiest city in ohio.

downtown is a dump. ohio state is 100,000 'tards from Cleveland that couldn't get accepted to Miami University.

Cleveland has a cool vibe..on the river, a little east-coast big city. cincinnati has the ohio river and some cool hillsides..better art/food scene. columbus is just a plain in the middle of the state where they put a governor's office. It's like Indianapolis with no style

A lake house on a mountainside? That is contradiction.
Is up on a mountain or down by the lake?

No too hot. I want to do the same thing, but I want DeSantis in a state that doesn't try to kill you.

Yes. That is the entire point of my post. Help me, please.

I would move my family to Chile in a heartbeat if I could