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I'm Happy That I Didn't Participate in the Crypto Currency Market.

 
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I don't risk my money investing in things I don't understand.

Some of you very smart folks were all in. The only smart, or lucky, ones were those who got in very very early and got out early as well.

Let this be a lesson to those of you who lost. Hopefully, your losses were not so large that it changes your way of life.
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dont be a chicken take out a second mortgage and let it ride on Crypto,,its going to a million dollars a coin,,you dont wanna miss out on twin Lambo's in the garage do ya? YOLO
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THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Quoting: Skanner

Crypto is not a derivative you tards. You don't even know what a derivative is. This is embarassing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83424777


It is a derivative in its truest form. You cannot buy anything with crypto without converting it back to fiat currency first (as an American I use dollars, but substitute any flavor of fiat you want). A derivative derives its worth from something else. It is a side bet on the price of something else. No crypto that I have ever heard of is valued in anything except dollars. It is not priced in ounces or grams of gold, there is always a fiat in the calculation. Again, try to wrap your mind around some basic facts.
 Quoting: texasdeerslayer

Geezus. It's not a f'ing derivative. A derivative's value is derived from the underlying asset. That means if bitcoin is a derivative of the dollar. It could have never gone from basically zero to over 60K a coin. It's value would be pegged to the underlying asset. Just like an option contract (puts and calls) is pegged to the underlying stock price.
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I think the poster meant;

It's a multiple synthetic multiplier derivative, you know that new technology block chain thing.
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Never be proud of ignorance
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Is that all you got, bro?
 Quoting: Skanner


I always got a kick out of the "crypto experts" who told me

"you just don't know crypto".

I've never posted this before but... here's my recreation
of the flipping blockchain, I derived it from ER diagrams
online because I couldn't find a schema that actually worked.

Then I tried porting it to a graph database to see if maybe
the inherent scalability problems could be fixed.

Realized after a week that, nope, wasn't happening.

[link to github.com (secure)]

Bitcoin is dead. The cost to mine a coin right now is
somewhere between $35K-40K and it goes to $80K-90K in
fifteen months.

BTW, the crypto I wrote in 2018 is still running okay.

lmao
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Are you going to continue to invest?

Do you think anyone else will?

Do you think there is a chance that the price goes to zero?
 Quoting: Skanner



For Bitcoin, yes. It's possible the Bitcoin community
can salvage it if they act quickly like Ethereum did. The
only true fix is ditching the consensus mechanism,
which is their religion, though, so they'll do half-ass
patches like they have for the past eight years. They'll
change the 21 million coin limit, or drop the halving
mechanism, which buys another year or two.

If they do nothing, Bitcoin fails from lack of traffic
capacity as miners dwindle.

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Its been the best performing asset in the last 10 years by far. The ignorance here is mind blowing regarding Bitcoin and crypto.
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It is absolute garbage and by FAR the biggest scam to ever hit the financial sector to date.

But "don't worry about the price, just keep buying."

lmao
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Its been the best performing asset in the last 10 years by far. The ignorance here is mind blowing regarding Bitcoin and crypto.
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You are the ignorant one. You and many other greedy sellout fucks on here have no business promoting that shit on a conspiracy forum.

If you are too stupid to know what I am referring to, well, just fuck off and go lick some boots.
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crypto is a dollar derivative. It has no value except for what some other fool will pay for it in dollars. the dollar is dying. figure it out fools.
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THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Quoting: Skanner

Crypto is not a derivative you tards. You don't even know what a derivative is. This is embarassing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83424777


Yeah, it's FAR worse than a derivative.
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Amen. That's like participating in the slave trade. Soon literally. But the sad part is y'all who aren't already TPTB that think you are gonna come out big time like cryptotard or monk or whatever he goes by, are going to be sadly mistaken when they can't use their shit and come to the realization that they have sold out their fellow man. Even the evil ones look down on that I've heard.
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The problem is people are being told it's crypto that's risky and dangerous, it's not really... the exchanges are the risky part. Led by a lack of clarity and fear of being sued for things today the government decides is illegal in the future has led people to go off shore... and many of those off shore exchanges are scams.

In the US you cannot create an exchange and use the customer deposits to create a new currency then set the value of that currency yourself to borrow against it (collateral) and use the funds to speculate in risky other investments.

I started buying crypto in 2012 and only ever put in what I was willing to light on fire and lose. And now even with the 85% "collapse" I'm up tens of thousands of percent across the board.

What I don't do, however, is let someone else hold all that crypto. It's all offline in cold storage.

It may all very well go to zero and at this point it doesn't matter as I've migrated enough profits out and put into income investments like QYLD and get 18 cents per share per month dividend on a $17 share. Doesn't sound like a lot and a lot of investment to get 18 cents... But when you have 100,000 shares and are making $18,000 a month for the rest of your life... that makes a difference.you let that DRIP for 15 years and you're taking home around $50,000 a month forever.

Diversify and protect... only the risky make generational wealth... not gold.
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Crypto is not a derivative you tards. You don't even know what a derivative is. This is embarassing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83424777


It is a derivative in its truest form. You cannot buy anything with crypto without converting it back to fiat currency first (as an American I use dollars, but substitute any flavor of fiat you want). A derivative derives its worth from something else. It is a side bet on the price of something else. No crypto that I have ever heard of is valued in anything except dollars. It is not priced in ounces or grams of gold, there is always a fiat in the calculation. Again, try to wrap your mind around some basic facts.
 Quoting: texasdeerslayer

Geezus. It's not a f'ing derivative. A derivative's value is derived from the underlying asset. That means if bitcoin is a derivative of the dollar. It could have never gone from basically zero to over 60K a coin. It's value would be pegged to the underlying asset. Just like an option contract (puts and calls) is pegged to the underlying stock price.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83328237


So what is the value of Bitcoin derived from? The next sucker who buys it?

Sounds like musical chairs to me...
 Quoting: Skanner

What is the value of the dollars in your wallet that can be printed in to oblivion? (Like they currently are). Every second that dollar sits in your wallet it is becoming weaker. Official numbers are 8.8% per annum, but real inflation probably closer to 20%.

So you need to be getting a 20% return on your dollar just to keep your head above water with inflation! If you've been hoping to do that with your 401K or the stock market. It's been a shitty year. If you are beating inflation maybe you could give us all some investment pointers.

I encourage you not to be involved in crypto because the MSM headlines scare you. What sets something like bitcoin apart from the dollar ponzi scheme, is that scarcity is built in to the blockchain. Meaning millions, if not billions of people will flood in to crypto over the next few years as a safe haven from fiat banking system collapse. That's exactly what happened in Venezuela. Which was the first hyper-inflationary collapse in the cryptocurrency era.
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Hard tangible assets that I own and that I control.


That's how I sleep at night.
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Smart, same here.
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I don't risk my money investing in things I don't understand.

Some of you very smart folks were all in. The only smart, or lucky, ones were those who got in very very early and got out early as well.

Let this be a lesson to those of you who lost. Hopefully, your losses were not so large that it changes your way of life.
 Quoting: Skanner


I knew it to be a ponzi scheme from the beginning. It was for technical people without morals, to take advantage of greedy investors.

All of you investing now, are suckers. All of you who invested before chose greed over integrity.
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You done good!

drevil
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At least I didn't do bad.

You can't lose money on an investment that you didn't make.
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what a fvcking retarded comment...huurr durrr
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84021713


That is actually investing 101, retard.

I didn't lose a dime on Cryto. I made a lot of money on other investments.

I would never take my hard earned money and invest in a ponzi scheme.

I could start selling rocks for a penny. This would work as long as there were one more retard to pay more than the last retard for the rocks.

At a point there will be no more buyers for the rocks. The guys who bought the really cheap rocks win...everyone else loses.

I would rather buy the rocks as I would at least have something to show for it. With Crypto you have nothing in the end.
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I started mining way back and sold most when the market went up. Still kept some for a rainy day just to see if it would go up even more. Not sorry at all, it bought me a lot of nice things and put money in the bank. Timing was everything with crypto. It may go back up but I'm not counting on it.
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I got in 2020, by 2021 midway I made 2700$ into over 1,000,000$ copying harder please.
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Never be proud of ignorance
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Is that all you got, bro?
 Quoting: Skanner


I always got a kick out of the "crypto experts" who told me

"you just don't know crypto".

I've never posted this before but... here's my recreation
of the flipping blockchain, I derived it from ER diagrams
online because I couldn't find a schema that actually worked.

Then I tried porting it to a graph database to see if maybe
the inherent scalability problems could be fixed.

Realized after a week that, nope, wasn't happening.

[link to github.com (secure)]

Bitcoin is dead. The cost to mine a coin right now is
somewhere between $35K-40K and it goes to $80K-90K in
fifteen months.

BTW, the crypto I wrote in 2018 is still running okay.

lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59834128


I guarantee that not one of those "crypto experts" even
looked at the schema.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59834128


Every 'crypto expert' I know is a bumbling idiot.

Know-it-all fools who don't know jack shit.

Oh and every one of them have lost their ass on this worthless garbage.
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Is that all you got, bro?
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I always got a kick out of the "crypto experts" who told me

"you just don't know crypto".

I've never posted this before but... here's my recreation
of the flipping blockchain, I derived it from ER diagrams
online because I couldn't find a schema that actually worked.

Then I tried porting it to a graph database to see if maybe
the inherent scalability problems could be fixed.

Realized after a week that, nope, wasn't happening.

[link to github.com (secure)]

Bitcoin is dead. The cost to mine a coin right now is
somewhere between $35K-40K and it goes to $80K-90K in
fifteen months.

BTW, the crypto I wrote in 2018 is still running okay.

lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59834128


Are you going to continue to invest?

Do you think anyone else will?

Do you think there is a chance that the price goes to zero?
 Quoting: Skanner



For Bitcoin, yes. It's possible the Bitcoin community
can salvage it if they act quickly like Ethereum did. The
only true fix is ditching the consensus mechanism,
which is their religion, though, so they'll do half-ass
patches like they have for the past eight years. They'll
change the 21 million coin limit, or drop the halving
mechanism, which buys another year or two.

If they do nothing, Bitcoin fails from lack of traffic
capacity as miners dwindle.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59834128



it's also possible that exchanges like Gemini may
step in and take over the miner function, as they
have billions locked up in Bitcoin. But they'd
be operating at a loss of millions per week,
the miners are losing $600 million per month
right now, and if Bitcoin stays in this $15-25K
trading range until 2024, that goes to over
$1.2 billion per month.
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I don't risk my money investing in things I don't understand.

Some of you very smart folks were all in. The only smart, or lucky, ones were those who got in very very early and got out early as well.

Let this be a lesson to those of you who lost. Hopefully, your losses were not so large that it changes your way of life.
 Quoting: Skanner


All of the Crypto - Tards are going to feel it in the wallet. Back to the basement they go. There's a reason it starts with "crypt." Order your hot pockets now! Oh wait I forgot..that takes real money....broccoli
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I don't risk my money investing in things I don't understand.

Some of you very smart folks were all in. The only smart, or lucky, ones were those who got in very very early and got out early as well.

Let this be a lesson to those of you who lost. Hopefully, your losses were not so large that it changes your way of life.
 Quoting: Skanner


I feel like you did… but you didn’t lose you money!
Based on this random post! Because most who didn’t invest in crypto- Don’t care and don’t brag!!!
Or… a bot
Definitely trolling!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75488052


This wasn't a random post.

My posts come from thoughts and experiences...never random.

I'm sorry if you lost money. Maybe that is why I felt the need to make this thread. Too many similar stories.

Learn from mistakes. Not you specifically...all of us.

Peace.
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I don't risk my money investing in things I don't understand.

Some of you very smart folks were all in. The only smart, or lucky, ones were those who got in very very early and got out early as well.

Let this be a lesson to those of you who lost. Hopefully, your losses were not so large that it changes your way of life.
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All of the Crypto - Tards are going to feel it in the wallet. Back to the basement they go. There's a reason it starts with "crypt." Order your hot pockets now! Oh wait I forgot..that takes real money....broccoli
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I got in 2020, by 2021 midway I made 2700$ into over 1,000,000$ copying harder please.
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Rrrrrriiiiiiight.

lmao
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Right because there's never been a ponzi scheme in the dollar system. <cough> Bernie Madoff, Jon Corzine, Mortgage backed securities, robo-signing, HSBC, Wells Fargo, Lehman Brothers...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83424777


Never one quite as ridiculous as Crypto my friend. You are spending your well earned money on nothing.
 Quoting: Skanner


More ridiculous

This was all a staged event so they can regulate crypto
If you think the USA is not moving to cbdc your nuts.

Your loss
The dollar is toast
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That why I don't rely on dollars exclusively.
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That shit was shilled hard here on GeeLPee too
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Its been the best performing asset in the last 10 years by far. The ignorance here is mind blowing regarding Bitcoin and crypto.
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It was a ponzi scheme/money laundering operation through Ukraine.

I guess I did lose money...my taxes paid.
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Fail harder bro. Jeez
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Is that all you got, bro?
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I always got a kick out of the "crypto experts" who told me

"you just don't know crypto".

I've never posted this before but... here's my recreation
of the flipping blockchain, I derived it from ER diagrams
online because I couldn't find a schema that actually worked.

Then I tried porting it to a graph database to see if maybe
the inherent scalability problems could be fixed.

Realized after a week that, nope, wasn't happening.

[link to github.com (secure)]

Bitcoin is dead. The cost to mine a coin right now is
somewhere between $35K-40K and it goes to $80K-90K in
fifteen months.

BTW, the crypto I wrote in 2018 is still running okay.

lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59834128


I guarantee that not one of those "crypto experts" even
looked at the schema.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59834128


Every 'crypto expert' I know is a bumbling idiot.

Know-it-all fools who don't know jack shit.

Oh and every one of them have lost their ass on this worthless garbage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74536915


Built life changing wealth over 7 years. Now retired early.

Dumbass.
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If you can't hold it good luck
Idaho Potato, it's what's for dinner
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pI'm happy that I didn't Participate in the "safe and effective" death shot "vaccine" scam.
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I always got a kick out of the "crypto experts" who told me

"you just don't know crypto".

I've never posted this before but... here's my recreation
of the flipping blockchain, I derived it from ER diagrams
online because I couldn't find a schema that actually worked.

Then I tried porting it to a graph database to see if maybe
the inherent scalability problems could be fixed.

Realized after a week that, nope, wasn't happening.

[link to github.com (secure)]

Bitcoin is dead. The cost to mine a coin right now is
somewhere between $35K-40K and it goes to $80K-90K in
fifteen months.

BTW, the crypto I wrote in 2018 is still running okay.

lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59834128


I guarantee that not one of those "crypto experts" even
looked at the schema.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59834128


Every 'crypto expert' I know is a bumbling idiot.

Know-it-all fools who don't know jack shit.

Oh and every one of them have lost their ass on this worthless garbage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74536915


Built life changing wealth over 7 years. Now retired early.

Dumbass.
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Enjoy sitting around doing nothing, congrats!
Idaho Potato, it's what's for dinner
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I always got a kick out of the "crypto experts" who told me

"you just don't know crypto".

I've never posted this before but... here's my recreation
of the flipping blockchain, I derived it from ER diagrams
online because I couldn't find a schema that actually worked.

Then I tried porting it to a graph database to see if maybe
the inherent scalability problems could be fixed.

Realized after a week that, nope, wasn't happening.

[link to github.com (secure)]

Bitcoin is dead. The cost to mine a coin right now is
somewhere between $35K-40K and it goes to $80K-90K in
fifteen months.

BTW, the crypto I wrote in 2018 is still running okay.

lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59834128


I guarantee that not one of those "crypto experts" even
looked at the schema.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59834128


Every 'crypto expert' I know is a bumbling idiot.

Know-it-all fools who don't know jack shit.

Oh and every one of them have lost their ass on this worthless garbage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74536915


Built life changing wealth over 7 years. Now retired early.

Dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80673374


Yep same here I was able to retire much earlier. But I was lucky and got in early. Not sure that could be replicated now.
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I don't risk my money investing in things I don't understand.

Some of you very smart folks were all in. The only smart, or lucky, ones were those who got in very very early and got out early as well.

Let this be a lesson to those of you who lost. Hopefully, your losses were not so large that it changes your way of life.
 Quoting: Skanner


I, too, share your joy.... not saying there isn't a place for it in the scheming machinations of those running the "reserve banks" and other completely untrustworthy bottom feeders, but from the very first time i heard/read about it there was the reality slamming me in the face that this is just "AIR," digits on a computer... purely a false scenario aimed at the low IQ "investors" and grandma's basement dwellers....

Yep, saved myself and my family again.. pray, prep and protect 'cause the hellish fallout from this fiasco hasn't begun to show it's vomitus head...

dj out.5a
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It is a derivative in its truest form. You cannot buy anything with crypto without converting it back to fiat currency first (as an American I use dollars, but substitute any flavor of fiat you want). A derivative derives its worth from something else. It is a side bet on the price of something else. No crypto that I have ever heard of is valued in anything except dollars. It is not priced in ounces or grams of gold, there is always a fiat in the calculation. Again, try to wrap your mind around some basic facts.
 Quoting: texasdeerslayer

Geezus. It's not a f'ing derivative. A derivative's value is derived from the underlying asset. That means if bitcoin is a derivative of the dollar. It could have never gone from basically zero to over 60K a coin. It's value would be pegged to the underlying asset. Just like an option contract (puts and calls) is pegged to the underlying stock price.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83328237


So what is the value of Bitcoin derived from? The next sucker who buys it?

Sounds like musical chairs to me...
 Quoting: Skanner

What is the value of the dollars in your wallet that can be printed in to oblivion? (Like they currently are). Every second that dollar sits in your wallet it is becoming weaker. Official numbers are 8.8% per annum, but real inflation probably closer to 20%.

So you need to be getting a 20% return on your dollar just to keep your head above water with inflation! If you've been hoping to do that with your 401K or the stock market. It's been a shitty year. If you are beating inflation maybe you could give us all some investment pointers.

I encourage you not to be involved in crypto because the MSM headlines scare you. What sets something like bitcoin apart from the dollar ponzi scheme, is that scarcity is built in to the blockchain. Meaning millions, if not billions of people will flood in to crypto over the next few years as a safe haven from fiat banking system collapse. That's exactly what happened in Venezuela. Which was the first hyper-inflationary collapse in the cryptocurrency era.
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I don't hold dollars.





GLP