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To The Christians Who Believe Jesus Is God

 
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That is where you are dead wrong. sorry not sorry. it's true. I had to find out for myself and I suggest you and others do the same. start by forgetting what you THINK you know and seek God and your true relationship with the Creator and if you genuinely want the truth, ask God for it. from a heartfelt prayer. but you really need to stop thinking you know something merely based upon what others have told you is truth and "knowing" key. I doubt you'll believe me or that you will do what is necessary to discover the truth for yourself, but it is worth it if you try. The biggest obstacle for most people is FEAR. FEAR that has been programmed and indoctrinated into you since birth. Get past that? you'll do alright.

Why would "Jesus" say: "Let the dead bury the dead" ?

What did he mean? Think about that. What does being "born again" ACTUALLY mean?

just some hints in case you or another wants to find out.
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I've met the Christ in Spirit, seen my room in the City put the clothes on and off, been to the "Hall of Creations" and been through the Seven Heavens.

You have not! If you had you would not talk as you do, it would be impossible.
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


the fact that you deny my experience without even knowing me PROVES that you're either very confused, mentally ill, full of ego or a flat out liar of the worst kind. either way. Pearls before swine. most of us that actually know anything are eventually just going to leave you people in the pig pen.

Jesus: "Let the dead bury the dead"

good luck. you'll definitely need it
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I'm sorry I don't mean to demean or minimize your experience it any way shape or form. Any experience of the Christ is a gift of God's Grace. Please accept my apology I came across to strong. I am always in a defensive posture after years of being battle hardened here.

But talk about ego, when the Lord touched me I was in Love and my EGO could barely fit in the Creation. It is a very difficult thing, then the Lord told me the rest of the story and deflated my eGO. Suffice it to say I have nothing to brag about God's mercy is greater than we could possibly fathom. I'm living proof.
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Ok. fair enough. and THAT sounds much more believable to me. I think we all have different perspectives on it but I think over time clarity will come into view for many many people and the confusion based divisions will vanish.
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I've met the Christ in Spirit, seen my room in the City put the clothes on and off, been to the "Hall of Creations" and been through the Seven Heavens.

You have not! If you had you would not talk as you do, it would be impossible.
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


the fact that you deny my experience without even knowing me PROVES that you're either very confused, mentally ill, full of ego or a flat out liar of the worst kind. either way. Pearls before swine. most of us that actually know anything are eventually just going to leave you people in the pig pen.

Jesus: "Let the dead bury the dead"

good luck. you'll definitely need it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77826864


I'm sorry I don't mean to demean or minimize your experience it any way shape or form. Any experience of the Christ is a gift of God's Grace. Please accept my apology I came across to strong. I am always in a defensive posture after years of being battle hardened here.

But talk about ego, when the Lord touched me I was in Love and my EGO could barely fit in the Creation. It is a very difficult thing, then the Lord told me the rest of the story and deflated my eGO. Suffice it to say I have nothing to brag about God's mercy is greater than we could possibly fathom. I'm living proof.
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Ok. fair enough. and THAT sounds much more believable to me. I think we all have different perspectives on it but I think over time clarity will come into view for many many people and the confusion based divisions will vanish.
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Thanks, cheers
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That is where you are dead wrong. sorry not sorry. it's true. I had to find out for myself and I suggest you and others do the same. start by forgetting what you THINK you know and seek God and your true relationship with the Creator and if you genuinely want the truth, ask God for it. from a heartfelt prayer. but you really need to stop thinking you know something merely based upon what others have told you is truth and "knowing" key. I doubt you'll believe me or that you will do what is necessary to discover the truth for yourself, but it is worth it if you try. The biggest obstacle for most people is FEAR. FEAR that has been programmed and indoctrinated into you since birth. Get past that? you'll do alright.

Why would "Jesus" say: "Let the dead bury the dead" ?

What did he mean? Think about that. What does being "born again" ACTUALLY mean?

just some hints in case you or another wants to find out.
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I've met the Christ in Spirit, seen my room in the City put the clothes on and off, been to the "Hall of Creations" and been through the Seven Heavens.

You have not! If you had you would not talk as you do, it would be impossible.

I'm Born Again Pentecost 2010 and Adopted into the family of God making me a "son of God". This is a gift of God open to all willing.
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You sound like a religiously deluded nutcase
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84792484


Yes, so religiously deluded I was attacked by two red orbs as witnessed by another a few weeks after my encounter with "The Christ". When I invoked the name of Jesus Christ they fled in a hurry.
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I bet. I bet a lot of people do that.
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That is where you are dead wrong. sorry not sorry. it's true. I had to find out for myself and I suggest you and others do the same. start by forgetting what you THINK you know and seek God and your true relationship with the Creator and if you genuinely want the truth, ask God for it. from a heartfelt prayer. but you really need to stop thinking you know something merely based upon what others have told you is truth and "knowing" key. I doubt you'll believe me or that you will do what is necessary to discover the truth for yourself, but it is worth it if you try. The biggest obstacle for most people is FEAR. FEAR that has been programmed and indoctrinated into you since birth. Get past that? you'll do alright.

Why would "Jesus" say: "Let the dead bury the dead" ?

What did he mean? Think about that. What does being "born again" ACTUALLY mean?

just some hints in case you or another wants to find out.
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I've met the Christ in Spirit, seen my room in the City put the clothes on and off, been to the "Hall of Creations" and been through the Seven Heavens.

You have not! If you had you would not talk as you do, it would be impossible.

I'm Born Again Pentecost 2010 and Adopted into the family of God making me a "son of God". This is a gift of God open to all willing.
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


You sound like a religiously deluded nutcase
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84792484


Yes, so religiously deluded I was attacked by two red orbs as witnessed by another a few weeks after my encounter with "The Christ". When I invoked the name of Jesus Christ they fled in a hurry.
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


I was just gonna day this. A few months ago an entity came to me in a dream after having nightmares. I saw him approching my bedside (in my dream) but could do nothing. I scream "Jesus" (again in my dream) and suddenly I woke up. Something was attacking me.

The attacks are real as I rebuke the powers of darkness over this present reality daily. They hate me, they killed the things I have loved and cost me thousands. In the end I laugh because I know their fate is worse than death.
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All three religions speak to the same God.

God does not pick the most righteous amongst us to carry forth his message or will. Read the Old Testament. The Quran is the word of God. Read it. Your Christian narrative of Jesus is the product of a Government control. Were the Roman Government a better form of governance? You are following a state sponsored religion. God sent the Quran to clear up the Jesus story. Jesus was a prophet. You all worship him as a God. That is blasphemous as no man could ever be as great as God, even if Jesus was a hybrid, he was still a creation of God and God has no equal...
 Quoting: Deep1111


You appear to misunderstand the nature of The Trinity.

But it is a fair point -- maybe the Gospel of Thomas was correct all along.

Christianity is certainly all the better for the Reformation -- it allowed Christianity to move beyond the simplistic literal interpretation of the Bible and realise that God's Word is complex at all points.

Islam hasn't had a reformation -- The Quran is still interpreted literally and believed to be the absolute Word of God, even though Muhammad (PBUH) didn't write the words and they had to be decided upon years after his death by the third Calif, who might be described as Rightfully Guided, or might not (just ask a Shia Muslim). Unfortunately, Uthman destroyed all previous copies of the Quran so we've no idea what Muhammad actually said, only what Uthman decided to include. Sure, it might well be the Word of God, but it was collated by man with all of his imperfections, and so it is just as likely to include lots of made-up bits (useful for Uthman) or deleted bits (inconvenient for Uthman).

Why the focus on the Quran -- Christianity is based upon Jesus being made of one substance with God; The Quran is based upon the Quran being the absolute Word of God. It is equally valid to consider whether Jesus truly was God or man as it is to consider that The Quran truly was written by God or man.
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I've met the Christ in Spirit, seen my room in the City put the clothes on and off, been to the "Hall of Creations" and been through the Seven Heavens.

You have not! If you had you would not talk as you do, it would be impossible.

I'm Born Again Pentecost 2010 and Adopted into the family of God making me a "son of God". This is a gift of God open to all willing.
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


You sound like a religiously deluded nutcase
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84792484


Yes, so religiously deluded I was attacked by two red orbs as witnessed by another a few weeks after my encounter with "The Christ". When I invoked the name of Jesus Christ they fled in a hurry.
 Quoting: Victor Vectors


I was just gonna day this. A few months ago an entity came to me in a dream after having nightmares. I saw him approching my bedside (in my dream) but could do nothing. I scream "Jesus" (again in my dream) and suddenly I woke up. Something was attacking me.

The attacks are real as I rebuke the powers of darkness over this present reality daily. They hate me, they killed the things I have loved and cost me thousands. In the end I laugh because I know their fate is worse than death.
 Quoting: Grognak the Ballbareian


Indeed there are things occurring we have know knowledge of but some on this planet do. The things that are hidden are being revealed by God's Grace as the Christ Jesus said they would.

The attacks are real, the power of the Christ is greater.
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You strayed big time...

Sorry to see you fall like the rest...

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Devil is working overtime on this forum.
Op wants you to burn in hell.
Jesus is the only one who can wipe your sins away. Everything else is fraud.

Christianity and the Lord Jesus Christ has proven to be the one and only!
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All three religions speak to the same God.

God does not pick the most righteous amongst us to carry forth his message or will. Read the Old Testament. The Quran is the word of God. Read it. Your Christian narrative of Jesus is the product of a Government control. Were the Roman Government a better form of governance? You are following a state sponsored religion. God sent the Quran to clear up the Jesus story. Jesus was a prophet. You all worship him as a God. That is blasphemous as no man could ever be as great as God, even if Jesus was a hybrid, he was still a creation of God and God has no equal...
 Quoting: Deep1111

The Koran is a lie. And the Koran tells it's followers that it's OK to murder those who are from Israel. Just read it sometime and you will see that it is in opposition to the bible and the people from the land where the bible originated.

Muslims have been tasked with spreading their faith to the rest of the world by any means necessary, including by lying or at the point of a sword. They think it's OK to lie if it furthers Mohammad's agenda. The Koran tells them that such lies are perfectly fine. This is one such lie, the lie of interfaithism; the lie of the big umbrella religion- One Religion to Rule Them All. This is a part of the great end-times apostasy that paves the way for the Antichrist's return.

Good job, Muslim. You are doing your part to usher in the Antichrist.

The truth is the Koran does not tell the Truth. And the Koran clears up nothing. Trust only in the bible. The bible is the word of God. And God wants to save everyone, even confused Muslims. Trust Yahweh(God) and His son Yahshua(Jesus) only for your salvation. That is the only Way you will inherit eternal life.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life." - John 3:16
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Show us the verse(s) that says Salvation
depends on Believeing that 'Jesus is God'.

You can't. They don't exist.


Instead, all these 14 verses say...

...'Believe in the SON OF God'.


John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not

believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

"Witness verses"

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ,
the Son of the living God.


17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:...


John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?

John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:


Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh

I live by the faith of the Son of God,

who loved me, and gave himself for me.



Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

1 Peter 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

1 John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
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You still have yet to provide any direct...
 Quoting: Akkusu

Denying what Jesus - or the Father said...is standard practice for many Christians.

The Father said that His name would be known to all the world - and Jesus said that He would 'declare it' in the futre - yet the Pope did this.

Thread: 2008 Pope Benedict XVI Banned Father God's Name Yehovah / Yahweh From Prayers Hymns Mass

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Hebrews 1:8 Father God calls him God. That's good enough for any real Bible believer.
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Father God isn't speaking i Hebrews 1.

It's a quote of a Psalm.

...

Jesus is NOT "God Almighty" / 'I AM'.

3 verses of definitive Scriptural PROOF.

1. Revelation 21 John tells us exactly who "God Almighty" is.

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.

2. The LORD / God - tells Moses that His name is Jehovah...and that He is God Almighty.

Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham,
unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,

by the name of God Almighty,

but by my name JEHOVAH (YHVH)

was I not known to them.


3. The Father is the "I AM" - NOT Jesus.

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM
THAT I AM:
and he said, Thus shalt
thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM
hath sent me unto you.


Thread: Father God is the "I AM' / God Almighty / Jehovah in Exodus. Not Jesus. Bible Study Scriptural Proof.
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All three religions speak to the same God.

God does not pick the most righteous amongst us to carry forth his message or will. Read the Old Testament. The Quran is the word of God. Read it. Your Christian narrative of Jesus is the product of a Government control. Were the Roman Government a better form of governance? You are following a state sponsored religion. God sent the Quran to clear up the Jesus story. Jesus was a prophet. You all worship him as a God. That is blasphemous as no man could ever be as great as God, even if Jesus was a hybrid, he was still a creation of God and God has no equal...
 Quoting: Deep1111


Sounds like you are a Jehovah Witness follower.

True Christians believe in the Trinity and that Jesus is God and not just a messenger.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79373377


No, it sounds like these doctrines of men is why the road is so broad and few the ones finding it. You need to search to see what makes that gate narrow. Not recognizing GOD is probably key, also not recognizing who the Son is. They are NOT the same person. Only apocryphal additions centuries after the fact support the 3N1 Doctrine. God YHWH is One and there is no other GOD. Not two and not three. Jesus is not GOD his name is not Yahweh. It was Yeshua in Hebrew and Jesus in Greek.
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Hebrews 1:8 Father God calls him God. That's good enough for any real Bible believer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83786458

Father God isn't speaking i Hebrews 1.

It's a quote of a Psalm.

...

Jesus is NOT "God Almighty" / 'I AM'.

3 verses of definitive Scriptural PROOF.

1. Revelation 21 John tells us exactly who "God Almighty" is.

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.

2. The LORD / God - tells Moses that His name is Jehovah...and that He is God Almighty.

Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham,
unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,

by the name of God Almighty,

but by my name JEHOVAH (YHVH)

was I not known to them.


3. The Father is the "I AM" - NOT Jesus.

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM
THAT I AM:
and he said, Thus shalt
thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM
hath sent me unto you.


Thread: Father God is the "I AM' / God Almighty / Jehovah in Exodus. Not Jesus. Bible Study Scriptural Proof.
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There was no "J" nor "V" in ancient Hebrew letters. It was YHWH. It matters.
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WHO IS THIS?




I am the LORD, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me
.


And there is no other God besides Me,
A just God and a Savior;
There is none besides Me.


"Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other
.
to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath
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WHO IS THIS?




I am the LORD, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me
.


And there is no other God besides Me,
A just God and a Savior;
There is none besides Me.


"Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other
.
to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath
..


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WHO IS THIS?




I am the LORD, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me
.


And there is no other God besides Me,
A just God and a Savior;
There is none besides Me.


"Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other
.
to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath
..


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YOU stand before HIM soon.
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Hey douchey, Father God calls him God. That's good enough for anyone except a tard.





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