If the rapture happens before the tribulation where will Jesus be? In Heaven with the raptured or on earth during the trib?

"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

1 Thessalonians 4:17


We meet Him in the air

"caught up.” The Latin translation of this verse used the word rapturo. The Greek word it translates is harpazo, which means to snatch or take away.

where the term Rapture comes from


He will be in Heaven awaiting the final Judgements on Earth

Revelation 19 describes His return

"The Rider on the White Horse

11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."

Last Edited by javierruizleon on 11/21/2022 12:28 PM

so he will be in Heaven with belivers while the tribulation is happening on earth?

1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 does not describe a "pre-tribulation rapture." It describes the resurrection at the end of time.

There is no future man of sin. He's been here since the first century A.D., and Paul told the Thessalonians who the man of sin, the son of perdition, is.

He couldn't come right out and specify names and titles or else he would have invited persecution on the church.

The Roman Caesars had temporal power, and it wasn't until the last western Roman emperor, Romulus Augustus, was removed from power that the way was paved for the man of sin to come to power.

The bishops/popes of Rome had ecclesiastical power, only, until 538 A. D. when Justinian I declared that the bishops of Rome as the head of all churches.

After reaching this level of authority, it was the bishops/popes who presided over the slaughter of the true Saints of God for 1260 prophetic years.

The succession of Popes, which are the man of sin, murdered 61+ million Christians for their faith in Jesus Christ.

They refused to recant and give in to the harlot church of Rome.

The Roman empire is not dead. It was revived as the Holy Roman Empire and it still runs the world today via the man of sin, the Papacy, through the military arm of the Vatican (the Jesuits - Society of Jesus).

All deceived Christians who are expecting to be raptured out prior to a non-scriptural pre-trib rapture are in for a rude awakening. They will wind up, in most cases, revering and obeying the Pope in order to save their earthly skin.

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Last Edited by NoFriendOfTheWorld on 11/21/2022 01:08 PM

If the OP is serious, let them research the difference between "The Day of Christ" and "The Day of the Lord", they are two different events

He won't come down, we meet him in the sky, then we go have dinner while all hell breaks loose. Then after dinner, Mike sounds the trumpet, we saddle up and then we ride on those devils and demons and the mortals who oppose the king, kicking ass and taking names. Then Big J, does the deed. And we live on Earth for 1,000 years. Mortals and Immortals.

I am a Christian and I don't follow that world's biggest cult called the RCC.

The rapture will be pre-trib. Jesus is ubiquitous.

Revelation 3:10

neither ... after Jesus returned from "heaven" and re-animated his body and transfigured its frequency, he moved into another of LIFE's many dimensions (while still in the body) as witnessed by his followers who chose not to follow him

Jesus did not come to save anyone but himself ... that would require him to infringe upon your free will, because nothing prevents you from saving yourself ... and no one can do that FOR you ... it is a choice

the Rapture isn't real ... and the tribulation is for those members of "god's kingdom on Earth" - Jesus won't be participating in either - he chose LIFE

We are in the hour of temptation now. I really hope you investigate this and don't disregard it so quickly. Take the time to listen to his videos. They truly are a breath of fresh air for those sincerely seeking the truth.

Revelation 3:10 is explained properly in this video. It has nothing to do with protecting anyone by rapturing them out of the earth.

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