Proving The Existence Of God to an Atheist

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Here is some additional evidence for God:

Thread: Honest Skeptics And Christians: An Outline Of The Basic Evidence For Christianity

I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Prove that he doesn't exist. I believe in a Goody-Two-Shoes Monkey Fucker. Prove that it doesn't exist. I believe in Ergo-Durhm-Mongo-Goo-Adda-Lumbo. Prove to me that he doesn't exist......or prove to me that he does exist. Guess who made a round world after Ergo-Durhm-Mongo-Goo-Adda-Lumbo created a flat world? Ergo-Durhm-Mongo-Goo-Adda-Lumbo-Geeka-Donga did! Everybody should now that. It just stands to reason and makes good sense that there is only one who created everything, and it's obviously Ergo-Durhm-Mongo-Goo-Adda-Lumbo-Geeka-Donga.

Would you try to tell him how to vote? how to wash behind his ears? or do you think he may be old enough to form his own opinion?

Either way, the more you tell 'em, the more they look the other way. Or tell him to pop in on GLP and I'll convert him to a Pagan for you.

He doesnt believe it because he doesnt understand it. you should sit him down and explain the concept. also, If God doesnt exist why is there evidence of the exodus of the hebrews from egypt? The plagues of egypt and the parting of the reed sea? If you say that these things occurred by the hand of nature and they may have, How is it that Moses knew it was done to liberate the people. How did he know that the plagues would occur and that the sea would part for his people to escape? how did he know to go to pharoah at this particular time and claim that God had spoken to him. How did moses know to have a passover dinner and paint the door lintels with blood to save his people from the plague of death that hit egypt. why is it that all of us knew that the time we are living in now was going to occur. that christians would be hated and persecuted. that money would become worthless. that famine and disease would come. that war would come that was so destructive that God has to return to keep us from completely destroying ourselves. We knew it was coming because the bible told us in prophecy.

Tell him to go to u-tube and type in near death experiences. Watch some of those who said they died and went to Hell and listen to them NOW!! They say they will Never go back the the Harden life after finally having God pull them from the depths of Hell. These were not mild everyday men, they were hardened men. You will know it by their way of admitting it. I had watched them some years back while checking out other people experiences with dying and returning. Their stories ran chills down my spine! I knew there was an afterlife, but not like they experienced. LoL - I hope that opens his eyes. I've had a hard life colder than most and do not fear death, but their stories had an affect on me.

in the end I'd say you don't need to "prove" anything to anyone...

There is only one God.

Me.

remind your son that atheists are the biggest mass murderers in history

Stalin atheist 30 to 60 million murdered

Mao atheist 40 to 80 million murdered

Lenin atheist 10 million murdered

polpot atheist millions murdered

Ghengis Khan and his atheistic hordes 30 to 40 million murdered

not many 16 year old kids know the true savagery of atheist goverments because the education system has brainwashed the youth to this reality

also remind your son he has an eternal soul,tell him if he lacks faith he should call himself agnostic,does your son even know what an agnostic is ? its a step in the right direction

btw

op you give praise to atheists for rejecting God and denial of the soul
(you are a poor muslim then buddy)

God is infallible correct?

In the OT, god was a bit testy, if not full of wrath and vengeful.

In the NT god is all lurve 'n forgiveness.

So, he obviously realised he made a mistake in his approach to dealing with humanity, as they were not responding to his input.

What kind of infallible god makes mistakes?

One that does not exist.....

Yes, more lies & trickery.

And of course it's no surprise that nobody actually "falls" for it, do they?

Sheesh.

Tell your various sky fairies I said hi.

God doesnt make mistakes. He does test things with an optimistic agenda. He created humans and tried to teach them a moral way of living that would keep them happy and healthy. men chose to do evil. this is not gods fault. It is all about free choice.

God is all knowing right? Then he knows all the outcomes. If he knows all the outcomes, there is no real free choice.

Face it. There is no god.

Man denies the actuality of existence, because the realisation is maddening. In order to buffer against insanity, man created god.

You need to read Ernst Beckers the denial of death before you do any more shilling for imaginary friends...

Proving god to an atheist is like when king Solomon prepared to cut the baby in half to give it to the two women claiming to be the mothers. Only an atheist would rather give up the concept of god than be forced to pick one from all your stupid retarded religions that exist. Only men like Nietzsche ever dared to understand god by sacrificing the concept to those claiming to believe in him.

A big part of why my son is the influence of relatives on him. He has a 2 uncles and a close cousin who are atheits. Even his grandma on that side said she didn`t believe there was anything after death. His dad believe in God but is against any kind of organized religion. My son went to church with me up until high school. So, he is knowledgeable about christianity.

It is his choice but yet his is very young to dismiss God already. I don`t want him to be religious but spirtitual as people feel empty without it. Our soul needs food just like our body. Prayer, mediation, etc is all food for the soul.

The biggest evidence to me that there is a God is love. I don`t think we would have the deep love we do, without God. I have told this to my son but he is a big sceptic. He is going to be an anthropologist and he wants scientific evidence of everything. I guess my feeling is everybody has their own path but I do want him to know this is a huge decision he shouldn`t take lightly. His dad and I are going to have a talk with him about soon. The othere thing is their is a still discrimation against athesits. It could cost him jobs, college admissions, life partners in the future.

Yeah... maybe your son should sell himself and his beliefs out so that he might get a better job and have more friends.

When I was young I wanted to believe in all that shit so bad so I could fit in with everyone else. But the only way I could have done it was to lie to myself and everyone else. I remember asking people if I should just pretend I believe even if I really don't. Many of them even had the balls to nod their head yes while saying no.

Maybe if I had lied to myself enough I would have eventually convinced myself that I believed that I believed and after enough years had passed I wouldn't have known the difference.

Nah, if he wants that kinda stuff he needs
to get in the freemasons lodge. I hear they're
takin about anyone in these days.

I like the concept, but not the percentages (wtf 1/10000??!!)

Until 1800's, people thought we were made of a mix of the for basic element : Air, fire, water and earth.

SOOOOO, the chances are that if SOMEBODY (not god) wrote that, it had 1/4 chances to take the "right" element, water.

This drops your percentages a little bit huh?

Also... earth shape... flat and round, flat and square, flat and undefined shape, or spherical. 1/4 chances. Nothing like triangular, hexagonal, etc.

If you want to make your percentages realistic, base them on what people thought at that time. Not on the infinite possibilities of what people could have thought.

yeah great example

Nietzsche lost his mind and was mentaly ill,a real loser he was

Nietzsche quote

"morals are not important"



(no wonder atheists worship this sicko)

i dont talk to monkey lineage,only god sons

It says in the Quran also that those whose hearts have been sealed by allah against islamic belief will not believe no matter what. I was one of those and hopefully today am no longer one. I was the most devout atheist you could have ever heard of. Today I believe in angels jinn Allah and all that is in the Quran. I would have laughed if I ever were told this would happen to me. Whom allah guides will believe, just hope the atheists reading this message of yours (op) will have a wake up call one day, for their own sake.

If everything in this world happens according to Allah's will then why are Human's Responsible for their actions?

Allah(swt) has created beings that are endowed with ‘freewill’. These beings are the Jinn and Humans. Humans are labeled as ‘Ashraf-ul-Makhlooqat’ i.e. ‘best of all creation’. If this ‘freewill’ were to be subtracted from the system then there would not be much difference between man and angels. Angels, another creation of The Almighty, do not possess ‘freewill’ and follow Allah’s command in verbatim without having an option to comply or deny. We have been blessed with this option where we can use our knowledge and intellect to react to different scenarios.


Allah(swt) without a doubt has Power over all things (Quran 5:40). He(saw) created everything that has been created and His(saw) knowledge is Absolute. When we talk about Allah’s will we mean two things:
Everything that happens is known by Allah(swt)
Everything that happens is by His permission
Knowledge does not contradict with the actions taken by freewill and neither does permission. To explain this further, Allah(swt) has knowledge of what humans will do and Allah(swt) has given them permission to do what they will. This is where freewill comes into play.

Man has been given guidance via prophets and it has been made clear to them what is good and what is wrong. With guidance, man has been blessed with the choice to do good or bad. Allah(swt) has given man guidance and the permission to do as he pleases thus only man is responsible for his action.

Allowing a person to do something after he has been given guidance and the sense to distinguish between right and wrong does not mean the one giving the permission is responsible. This is the entire concept of freewill. We have been given the choice and permission to comply or deny and thus we are responsible for our actions. Truly Allah(swt) is the “justest of Judges” (Quran 11:45)

- Ebrahim Saifuddin

Really sounds like the problem is you can not understand his point of view. Why he can not grasp a god. Just how you can not understand how people can not believe what you think is real it is the exact same thing just opposite. It also is only a huge decision if you intend to let religion run your life. Sounds like your son is doing just fine in making his own decisions. Kudos to him.

>> also, If God doesnt exist why is there evidence of the
>> exodus of the hebrews from egypt?

There isn't. Read the Biblical Archaeology site.

>> The plagues of egypt and the parting of the reed sea?

No evidence of this. No writings or mass graves or references to a lot of childhood deaths during the reign of one pharaoh.

>> why is it that all of us knew that the time we are living
>> in now was going to occur. that christians would be
>> hated and persecuted.

Try being a Muslim in America... then you'll see some hatred and persecution. Heck, try being a Pagan or an athiest. I don't know if you ever were spit on just for wearing your religious symbol, but I do know Jews here in America (and Pagans) who have had that happen.

>> that money would become worthless. that famine and
>> disease would come.

Have you read up on what it was like when the Black Plague hit? You talk about war and famine, but it doesn't sound like you read a lot about the middle Ages, crusades, and the plagues. These times are a cakewalk compared to those!

During one point of the plagues, 80-90% of the people in infested areas would die.

>> that war would come that was so destructive that God has
>> to return to keep us from completely destroying
>> ourselves. We knew it was coming because the bible
>>told us in prophecy.

It won't come. Revelation was written back when the Christians were considered a Jewish sect, and it was to inspire them against the persecutions of Nero. It's a failed prophecy, which is why many of the Church fathers (and Martin Luther, founder of Protestantism) wanted to remove it from the Bible.

Your impeccable logic has got me convinced.
Where do I sign up?

What bullshit.
If religious folk had any comprehension at all of logic, rather than emotion based "faith" they'd realise that if the future can be known, even by "god",it is SET IN STONE.
Therefore there is no possiblity of anyone doing anything to change it, therefore no "free will."

To distort the concept of Free Will into a submission or rejection of Control by "god" or anyone else is pitiful and the mark of a natural born slave.