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400,000 DEAD UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS - The Russians Lose Few Soldiers

 
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Mike in Pennsylvania who forwarded the following;

Western sources say that in retreating the Russians have left behind at least 400,000 dead Ukrainians. And many more wounded. This agrees with the Chechen General. There are few Ukrainians left at the front and US, Polish, and other forces in Ukrainian units have taken their place. A retreat that consumes the soldiers of the other side becomes the source of a massive victory as the opposing army is burned out by "victories". NATO has been outfoxed.






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400,000 DEAD UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS BASED ON WESTERN SOURCES

Compliments of the Lifschultz Organization founded in 1899

Despite western politicians pushing for more war today military to military negotiations CONTINUED at the tactical and operational level (see link). Thus the military, who apparently wants to stop the slaughter and is trying to prevent escalation, makes much more sense than that our government caretakers do.

Four hundred thousand (400,000) Ukrainian soldiers died (western sources say according to source below) and yet western politicians want to carry on the war effort and refuse to negotiate?

DKL wrote this part:


The western source does not give Russian dead but says it is very, very low. The Russians say about 6,000 died but do not give wounded (Sergei Shoigu as Minister of Defense for Russia is the source). One million troops were mobilized by the Ukraine so that the death rate was 40% at 400,000. In World War Two Russia faced the German Army with about ten million troops and ended the war with ten million troops. Estimated dead were about 8.7 million troops. This means that Stalin replaced all of the dead soldiers during the war. The German Red Cross reported in 2005 that the records of the military search service WAS list total Wehrmacht losses at 4.3 million men (3.1 million dead and 1.2 million missing) in World War II. Their figures include Austria and conscripted ethnic Germans from Eastern Europe.)

It appears these western sources tabulated the dead by reviewing all Ukrainian newspapers adding them together. It is interesting to note that

one of my former OSS neighbors used to read all the German newspapers for the OSS during World War Two for similar intelligence and also focused on the location of the living soldiers to determine the location of the actual units for those alive to determine where the units were. Unit designations were supplied rather unwittingly by the German newspapers. These readings allowed the OSS to determine relatively speaking troop strength and location of forces facing the Russians and later the allies after Normandy.

As we reported earlier, in our study of German Panzer Operations in World War Two Colonel General Ehhard Raus of the German Third Panzer Army explained the Russian concept of the mincing machine where rather than charging well fortified position as in World war One you instead reverted to the use of concentrated artillery attacks and though it was very much slower it worked brilliantly in drastically lowering casualties. The Russians used this for about four months this year to wipe out massive fortified bunkers and hardly had any casualties at all wiping out hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian forces. The defensive structures that the Russians obliterated were probably the greatest example of defensive works in history far superior to the Maginot Line of World War One. We quote from Colonel General Raus from page 127 of his book entitled "Panzer Operations":

"The first week of the snail offensive resulted in the occupation of fourteen villages and the capture of numerous prisoners, while our own losses were negligible. Most important, however, was the confidence that the troops in the Alarmeinheiten gained in this combat method, regarding which the Russians themselves coined the expression the "mincing machine," which aptly defined our "attacks with limited objectives" that were conducted with all heavy weapons under firm control."

This is why the Russians said that they were totally unconcerned with how long this process would take as it conserved your men. The Russians did suffer high casualty levels in their offensive towards Kiev which was abandoned but appears to be in the planning stages again as the Russians transferred 80,000 troops to Belarus and Belarus has activated 40,000 troops. Belarus can activate very rapidly over 340,000 more reserves and the Russians can transfer from other theaters another 200,000 troops. This blow would end the independence of the Ukrainian nation in our lifetime.

This ends DKL's contribution and our European Correspondent continues:

How much of a sacrifice of the Ukrainian people does Washington, Brussels, and London require to satisfy the bloodlust of the political class and to meet the nefarious objectives of its geopolitical think tanks?

This is genocide by proxy. The West stands accused in the eyes of the world.

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Whether or not the actual figure of dead is indeed 400,000 or as I suspect closer to half of that,-who knows? it's more than evident that Russia has the upper hand and Hellensky needs to be stopped like before yesterday, as this white powder sniffing clinical psychopath is clearly out of control and guilty of the crime of genocide even before the start of Russia's special operation.

Young men and women untrained in combat skills and recently drafted by Kiev are now no more than fodder for Russia's giant meat grinder.

For that Hellensky is responsible.

As for any foreign mercenaries meeting the same fate, well for them I shed no tears. Killing as a paid 'sport' has no place in my heart and as the old adage goes, "you reap what you sow," be that in this life, or after.
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At least Ukraine is winning still..
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I’d love to know where you are getting this

I want Russia to win but it sure seems like their getting their teethed kicked in
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A Putin Puffer.
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At least Ukraine is winning still..
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The meat grinder wins, always! dead2
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Looks like Putin is right on the verge of winning, I'm eying June 19th as V-day for Russia.
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So, Russia is saying they have only lost 140 soldiers in the last year and a half ?
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Stop watch Russian MSM OPie shill

They are brainwashing you
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The Ukrainians are like ISIS, they will fight until the last of them is dead. And with the current attrition rate, that could take 25 years.
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With such loses, Kiev will fall very quickly now, right op? As Ukraine only has a population of around 43 million, 400k would be a sizeable chunk of male fighters. Scum Putin should have no worries this time..lol.
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I’d love to know where you are getting this

I want Russia to win but it sure seems like their getting their teethed kicked in
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By what? Company- size suicidal Uke attacks into Russian artillery and glide bombs?
A mini drone into a Kremlin building?
Couple thousand Poles/ Uke nazis shelling and storming civilian villages inside Russian border?
Have you noticed the Russian banks failing? Their economy collapsing from sanctions? Is BRICS shrinking?
Have you noticed the Russians failing politically to build alliances with China and Iran?
Putin’s internal political and popular support dropping?

Stop reading the western media
You can count on America to do the right thing after exhausting every other alternative."
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As long as white people are dying Biden / Obama are happy as can be
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If that were the case the war would be over and Russia would be occupying Kiev.
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BWAAAAAHAHAHA

that's punny
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If that were the case the war would be over and Russia would be occupying Kiev.
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Who says the Russians ever untended, or want, to occupy Kiev?
Why…Gen Mark Milley and his genius advisors, experts, staffers and Pentagon ass licking DC think tankers ( which outnumber real military tank crews)
The Russians want a strategically neutral nonthreatening Ukrainian govt occupying Kiev….if there can ever be such a thing

Last Edited by Dodger007 on 06/05/2023 09:23 AM
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Total Russians loses since Jan 24th 2022 is 237 men.
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Russian Defence Ministry announces the launch of a large-scale offensive by the Ukrainian Armed Forces

According to the military ministry, since the morning of 4 June, the enemy launched a large-scale offensive in five sectors of the front in the South Donetsk direction by introducing into battle 23 and 31 mechanized brigades from the Ukrainian Armed Forces' strategic reserves with the support of other military units and subunits.

A total of six mechanized and two tank battalions of the enemy were engaged.

The enemy's objective was to break through our defence in what they considered to be the most vulnerable area of the front. The enemy did not achieve its objectives and had no success.

The Russian Ministry of Defence also reported that Valeriy Gerasimov, commander of the combined group of troops, was allegedly at one of the forward command posts at the time.

Russian Defence Ministry


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The 31st seems to be confirmed, this is important, as it is one of the famous "counter-offensive brigades" that received among other equipment Bradleys and Leopards, I guess we will see them in action soon.

We can also say that the announced Ukrainian counter-offensive is already underway.

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The US and NATO will fight Russia to the
last ounce of Ukrainian blood.

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cheers
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If that were the case the war would be over and Russia would be occupying Kiev.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78820273


Who says the Russians ever untended, or want, to occupy Kiev?
Why…Gen Mark Milley and his genius advisors, experts, staffers and Pentagon ass licking DC think tankers ( which outnumber real military tank crews)
The Russians want a strategically neutral nonthreatening Ukrainian govt occupying Kiev….if there can ever be such a thing
 Quoting: Dodger007


The entire point of Russia's invasion was to stop nato expansion. To effectively do that Russia must seize all of Ukraine and push NATO back to Poland. Russia won't settle tor anything less and if they can't do it then it's all about their own survival and we all know what that means.
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As long as white people are dying Biden / Obama are happy as can be
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This, exactly
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I don't understand what happened? I thought this was supposed to be a race of peace loving, superior, high IQ gentlemen. 400,000 of your own race dead, sounds kinda like self hatred? Why do you hate yourselves so much?? I know why, but do you??
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If that were the case the war would be over and Russia would be occupying Kiev.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78820273


Who says the Russians ever untended, or want, to occupy Kiev?
Why…Gen Mark Milley and his genius advisors, experts, staffers and Pentagon ass licking DC think tankers ( which outnumber real military tank crews)
The Russians want a strategically neutral nonthreatening Ukrainian govt occupying Kiev….if there can ever be such a thing
 Quoting: Dodger007


The entire point of Russia's invasion was to stop nato expansion. To effectively do that Russia must seize all of Ukraine and push NATO back to Poland. Russia won't settle tor anything less and if they can't do it then it's all about their own survival and we all know what that means.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78820273


I'm sure they can kill every Ukrainian from
Crimea to the western border of Ukraine,
then they can fill the country up with
Siberians who have HAD IT with the cold,
and then peace and tranquility will reign supreme.
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I have been on GLP long time. I'm old and young.. .
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O.P. posted a video from Scott Ritter

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This is a terrific war…..so sad





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