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I'm Pissed at Apple and Google and Going to Build my Own Phone -SURVEY

 
Crypto-Tard  (OP)

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11/29/2022 11:10 AM

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So it's a type of dumbphone with a limited call network?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84296433


Got enough intelligence to run a crypto wallet.

However, you are limited to only people with this phone, you are correct.

This must be done this way to create a private association.

Otherwise you are just going down the same path same as the other phones.

You must use MADE IN USA, not China! Very, very few phones are like this. You can't connect to the regular phone network or they will jam software on your phone to track and spy on you.
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11/29/2022 11:11 AM
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If Elon makes THE breakthru in AI

Anything is possible
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11/29/2022 11:12 AM
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Re: I'm Pissed at Apple and Google and Going to Build my Own Phone -SURVEY
Musk should manufacture a pure Linux based phone, with no corporation encumbrances, such as Google or Apple attached to it, spying on people. It wouldn't have to communicate with satellites. It could just attach to regular phone providers.

And I'd be interested if he did that, assuming the spying is dropped from the design.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo

the regular cell infrastructure is part of the spying network
Crypto-Tard  (OP)

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Here's an idea. How about having NO PHONE! I don't have a cell or smart phone and I manage to survive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71713238


That works, too. But some jobs require comms and you want security for that.
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11/29/2022 11:13 AM
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So it's a type of dumbphone with a limited call network?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84296433


Got enough intelligence to run a crypto wallet.

However, you are limited to only people with this phone, you are correct.

This must be done this way to create a private association.

Otherwise you are just going down the same path same as the other phones.

You must use MADE IN USA, not China! Very, very few phones are like this. You can't connect to the regular phone network or they will jam software on your phone to track and spy on you.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


No connecting to a data network doesn't automatically make it vulnerable

Your technical understanding seems inadequate
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11/29/2022 11:14 AM

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I have a background in tech and connected with a number of my friends to come up with a design for a private phone -- let's call it a "Bat Phone".

It's a basic phone with p2p calling and text plus crypto wallet. Long battery life and it'll look like a Blackberry, water proof with a keyboard. The downside is it won't connect with the regular phone network, so it's like a non-internet dedicated Skype (without Skype out), but I would use this like a "Bat Phone" and keep my regular phone.

Elon Musk is making noise about the censorship on iPhone and that's not as secure as this, but an option I think a lot of people might switch to. It doesn't have the security of a phone like a "Bat Phone".

Here is what it doesn't have:

NO Big Tech Spying
NO GPS Tracking
NO China made
NO Spam calls or texts
NO Phishing attacks
NO Standard cell connection
NO Wifi or Bluetooth
NO Social media
NO Porn
NO Rich media
NO TikTok
NO Internet connection
NO Phone number
NO EBS messages or 911
NO Hidden fees or taxes

Here's what it has:

-Private cellular network and secure server
-Long battery life (30 days standby)
-Simple to operate
-Unlimited P2P Text and Voice Calling on private network
-Locked to private net (CAN, MEX, USA), might be available for -Starlink satellite
-Air-gapped network protects privacy
-Camera limited to phone storage/share with your network only
-Phone SRP $150
-Plan SRP $10/mo (paid annually)

I need some feedback from the GLP community, you guys are thought leaders, thanks for any feedback.
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11/29/2022 11:16 AM
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Have we switched timelines into a BATMAN movie ?

Is musk Bruce Wayne?
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11/29/2022 11:17 AM
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Why reinvent the wheel.

Pine phone.

All others are corporate trash.

Why would his be any different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80728219


Pine is not on a private network. Public phone network, all the rules, laws and taxes for public phones. Any phone connected to the internet is gonna get hacked. Pine is not private.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


Would it be utilizing existing cell towers, and or wifi?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80728219


Existing cell towers (or Starlink!!!). Separate network!!
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


I'm no rocket scientist but wouldn't this eliminate any privacy whatsoever at all?
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11/29/2022 11:20 AM

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Musk should manufacture a pure Linux based phone, with no corporation encumbrances, such as Google or Apple attached to it, spying on people. It wouldn't have to communicate with satellites. It could just attach to regular phone providers.

And I'd be interested if he did that, assuming the spying is dropped from the design.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo

the regular cell infrastructure is part of the spying network
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84844328


That's correct. There is a parallel cellular system that's actually bigger than the regular cell network already 3x bigger than the regular cell system. It's much easier to protect a sub net on a private network.
When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life.

Don't be afraid.
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11/29/2022 11:20 AM
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So you're going to build your own private cell phone network eh?
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11/29/2022 11:23 AM
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Have we switched timelines into a BATMAN movie ?

Is musk Bruce Wayne?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30354898


glassesoff
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11/29/2022 11:29 AM

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Pine is not on a private network. Public phone network, all the rules, laws and taxes for public phones. Any phone connected to the internet is gonna get hacked. Pine is not private.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


Would it be utilizing existing cell towers, and or wifi?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80728219


Existing cell towers (or Starlink!!!). Separate network!!
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


I'm no rocket scientist but wouldn't this eliminate any privacy whatsoever at all?
 Quoting: Fir3fly


Best is to control your own towers or sats, but the cost to do that is not possible. This is the best we can do and on your own private network and subnet that we would control, we can monitor intrusion and maintain security way better than a public network.
When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life.

Don't be afraid.
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11/29/2022 11:29 AM
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imagine thinking elon is good. thats like thinking trump is good.
(mindblowing for people who dont believe in larps)
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11/29/2022 11:32 AM
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Have we switched timelines into a BATMAN movie ?

Is musk Bruce Wayne?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30354898


glassesoff
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30354898


hesright
Crypto-Tard  (OP)

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11/29/2022 11:35 AM

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So you're going to build your own private cell phone network eh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84641730


We will have our own sub net on a private cell network.
When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life.

Don't be afraid.
Crypto-Tard  (OP)

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11/29/2022 11:38 AM

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imagine thinking elon is good. thats like thinking trump is good.
(mindblowing for people who dont believe in larps)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78456924


Not saying anyone is good or bad. Our people need to communicate and to do that we have to pick the devil we know and something that works.
When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life.

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11/29/2022 11:40 AM
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Would it be utilizing existing cell towers, and or wifi?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80728219


Existing cell towers (or Starlink!!!). Separate network!!
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


I'm no rocket scientist but wouldn't this eliminate any privacy whatsoever at all?
 Quoting: Fir3fly


Best is to control your own towers or sats, but the cost to do that is not possible. This is the best we can do and on your own private network and subnet that we would control, we can monitor intrusion and maintain security way better than a public network.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


You can't call it private if it's flowing through their infrastructure.
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11/29/2022 11:47 AM
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Re: I'm Pissed at Apple and Google and Going to Build my Own Phone -SURVEY
Eventually, mobile phones will be literally a chunk of transparent plastic. With fibre optic pathways and literally a million times faster than current computers. A chunk of plastic mobile being formed by 3D resonance which cause low and high density areas and can move various materials around in a 3D block, the whole mobile being created from a liquid and set hard in less than a minute.

Each pixel will be able to directly focus and point ag the eye, no wasted energy going out in all directions from the screen and no one being able to see what you see. Be very low energy usage by screen.

Data transmission will be via quantum communication. No need for radio transmission. Energy use will be very low. Work anywhere in universe.
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That's a Smartphone, loaded with China spying gear. Chips, firmware and software from the CCP. We're talking made in USA with no spy components.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


I’ve read that you’re iPhone is taking a picture every 3 seconds.
It’s built in spyware. No flash. No noise. Just taking a pic every 3 seconds.

Conspiracy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72724258


Mic is always on, camera phones home like you are saying. "We're always watching you Wizowski, always watching!"

This device won't have that problem! No Big Tech!

Last Edited by Crypto-Tard on 11/29/2022 11:56 AM
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11/29/2022 11:50 AM

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I’d take a mesh network service.

The 5G towers need to be turned off.
 Quoting: McMarshal


I’d take a mesh network service.

The 5G towers need to be turned off.
 Quoting: McMarshal


STARLINK solves this issue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72724258


Correct. This phone would be set up for terrestrial private cell network, starlink and public unlicensed spectrum. Eventually, you will set up your own base stations and mesh as you describe.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


I was talking about a network with no hubs. There was a company trying to make it but it requires many devices to be meshed. It was called Bee something. It’s possible I didn’t understand what I was looking into but it was a cell service based on no towers. Maybe it would only work locally but that’s good for me.
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11/29/2022 11:51 AM

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Fuck. Best idea I've seen here in a while. Would you be open to making such a phone for others? I'm trying to boycott any and all aspects of Big Tech for pushing the scamdemic.
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Yes, we could private label.
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I would buy immediately
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I’d take a mesh network service.

The 5G towers need to be turned off.
 Quoting: McMarshal


I’d take a mesh network service.

The 5G towers need to be turned off.
 Quoting: McMarshal


STARLINK solves this issue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72724258


Correct. This phone would be set up for terrestrial private cell network, starlink and public unlicensed spectrum. Eventually, you will set up your own base stations and mesh as you describe.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


I was talking about a network with no hubs. There was a company trying to make it but it requires many devices to be meshed. It was called Bee something. It’s possible I didn’t understand what I was looking into but it was a cell service based on no towers. Maybe it would only work locally but that’s good for me.
 Quoting: McMarshal


BeeBeep, it's software, is that what you're looking for, it's p2p? That's the idea.

Last Edited by Crypto-Tard on 11/29/2022 11:54 AM
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STARLINK solves this issue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72724258


Correct. This phone would be set up for terrestrial private cell network, starlink and public unlicensed spectrum. Eventually, you will set up your own base stations and mesh as you describe.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


I was talking about a network with no hubs. There was a company trying to make it but it requires many devices to be meshed. It was called Bee something. It’s possible I didn’t understand what I was looking into but it was a cell service based on no towers. Maybe it would only work locally but that’s good for me.
 Quoting: McMarshal


BeeBeep, it's software, is that what you're looking for, it's p2p. That's the idea.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


No it was a network startup that was named after the likeness of worker bees. It’s a shame I can’t remember.
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Re: I'm Pissed at Apple and Google and Going to Build my Own Phone -SURVEY
I have about 15-20 people I talk to on my phone. That's it.

Of course, the main reason I have it is in case of an emergency, like my car dies, I need an ambulance, etc.

I hate being tracked, I never answer my phone unless I know who's calling.

I'd certainly be interested in a phone that is private! Keep all governments out! I've never broken the law & I don't plan on ever breaking the law. Our government has no business, in my business!

Leave all of us alone!
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11/29/2022 11:56 AM
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I like the idea of the "Bat-phone". The closet I ever had was a clam shell or a rooting an Android phone.
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I had a windows phone and loved. Could select all the bloatware, turn off all tracking and it worked like a computer. Of course, they got rid of that one.
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I like the idea of the "Bat-phone". The closest I ever had was a clamshell or a rooting an Android phone.

Oops.
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I have a background in tech and connected with a number of my friends to come up with a design for a private phone -- let's call it a "Bat Phone".

It's a basic phone with p2p calling and text plus crypto wallet. Long battery life and it'll look like a Blackberry, water proof with a keyboard. The downside is it won't connect with the regular phone network, so it's like a non-internet dedicated Skype (without Skype out), but I would use this like a "Bat Phone" and keep my regular phone.

Elon Musk is making noise about the censorship on iPhone and that's not as secure as this, but an option I think a lot of people might switch to. It doesn't have the security of a phone like a "Bat Phone".

Here is what it doesn't have:

NO Big Tech Spying
NO GPS Tracking
NO China made
NO Spam calls or texts
NO Phishing attacks
NO Standard cell connection
NO Wifi or Bluetooth
NO Social media
NO Porn
NO Rich media
NO TikTok
NO Internet connection
NO Phone number
NO EBS messages or 911
NO Hidden fees or taxes

Here's what it has:

-Private cellular network and secure server
-Long battery life (30 days standby)
-Simple to operate
-Unlimited P2P Text and Voice Calling on private network
-Locked to private net (CAN, MEX, USA), might be available for -Starlink satellite
-Air-gapped network protects privacy
-Camera limited to phone storage/share with your network only
-Phone SRP $150
-Plan SRP $10/mo (paid annually)

I need some feedback from the GLP community, you guys are thought leaders, thanks for any feedback.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard
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I have about 15-20 people I talk to on my phone. That's it.

Of course, the main reason I have it is in case of an emergency, like my car dies, I need an ambulance, etc.

I hate being tracked, I never answer my phone unless I know who's calling.

I'd certainly be interested in a phone that is private! Keep all governments out! I've never broken the law & I don't plan on ever breaking the law. Our government has no business, in my business!

Leave all of us alone!
 Quoting: Justthefacts12345


The answer is to call or text a friend, you tell them where you are at (the phone can't be tracked that well) and have them call 911.

You have to be outside the Telecom Act. No tax and no reporting and regulation!
When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life.

Don't be afraid.





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