NASA's Orion spacecraft reaches record-breaking distance in space exploration mission | |
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Free me User ID: 46636611 United States 11/29/2022 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78034789 I don’t have to “deny” the so-called points in the video. They are all easily debunked with 5 minutes of research. Yet you just "denied" all the points in the video because you "believe" they are all easily debunked. |
JustmeTX User ID: 84369183 United States 11/30/2022 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suppose to have around the clock access to cameras, not one of the 25 cameras work. Piece of shit. Quoting: War eagle3 Seriously? The stupid cameras aren't working? This was supposed to be a trip to take millions of photos of Earth and the craft as "selfies" to prove to the flat earthers that we live on a globe. Are all those cameras really not working? OMG. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 11/30/2022 12:19 AM Justme |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 11/30/2022 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for proving you didn't watch the video. Here's another video for you to not-watch. I watched your videos. You posted them several times already. Still not seeing any proof. Then you're blind :). I tracked it from launch out to 200,000 km and established that it was indeed from the launch and that it did indeed have what it took to reach the moon. I tracked it again last night and confirmed it's where NASA says it is, over 400,000 km from earth. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 11/30/2022 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for proving you didn't watch the video. Here's another video for you to not-watch. Hi, what is the reason it is taking a much longer path around the moon than the old apollo missions? Anyway, to get to the meat of your question, yes the trajectory here is very different. SLS is a very different animal than the Saturn V, though both are super heavy lift. Saturn V had three stages, SLS has two solid boosters, a large core stage and at the moment a small "interim" upper stage. The Orion's service module does not have as much fuel and delta-V as the Apollo CSM had. To give you an idea, the Apollo CSM carried about 18,410 kg of propellant for the main SPS engine and the Apollo command module was a smaller capsule than Orion. Orion's European Service Module only has a propellant mass of about 8,600 kg and carries a heavier capsule. Ironically, both the CSM and European Service Module rely on versions of the AJ-10 engine, though Orion's is literally an old Space Shuttle OMS engine that has been repurposed for one more flight. Orion with its current service module cannot perform the mission profiles that Apollo's CSM could. It can't carry a lander into low lunar orbit and then get itself out of low lunar orbit for a return to earth. Quoting: Astromut Likewise, the ICPS is very under-powered compared to the mighty Saturn V upper stage, the S-IVB. The ICPS is really just a modified Delta upper stage, and it only carries about 28,576 kg of propellant mass vs 109,000 kg for the S-IVB. The upgraded Exploration Upper Stage or EUS will flip that statistic later on, but for now the ICPS is what Orion had to work with. Given these limitations and the nature of the SLS rocket's staging, the core stage put Orion and the ICPS into a slightly elliptical parking orbit that essentially gave the ICPS a "head-start" before the TLI burn (on the Saturn V, the S-IVB finished the orbit insertion itself and stayed in a low parking orbit until TLI). Even so, the ICPS and Orion cannot fly the kind of profile we saw with Apollo, so they opted for an easier but slower trajectory to a distant retrograde orbit of the moon, swinging wide past the moon each time and never braking fully into a low lunar orbit. This is similar to how later missions will utilize a halo orbit that stays farther from the moon than Apollo and a lunar lander that will meet Orion there and depart to the surface from a wider starting orbit. This trajectory does not require as much delta-V from Orion to do the mission and still get back to earth. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 11/30/2022 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astromut The Voyager spacecraft were not designed to carry humans. Even so, NASA is still wrong about this. Apollo 10's LM Snoopy is much farther away. A more accurate statement would be that the Artemis I Orion is the farthest an operational spacecraft designed to be able to carry humans has traveled. Nobody cares, we already know the whole thing is a lie Who's "we?" I know for a fact that it really is up there. "We" is everyone else lol You don't speak for everyone else :). Lots of people are enjoying my videos tracking Artemis I with various telescopes. https://twitter.com/_/status/1597941095039918081 |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 11/30/2022 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for proving you didn't watch the video. Here's another video for you to not-watch. Do you have one from a legit news source? Not some rando on YouTube Not a rando. Me. I know for a fact that it's currently over 400,000 km from earth because I just tracked it last night again with two telescopes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80315030 United Kingdom 11/30/2022 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NASA's Orion spacecraft has reached more than 432,000km from Earth — the farthest distance scheduled on its Artemis I mission and the farthest any spacecraft built for humans has travelled. Quoting: any thing More: [link to www.abc.net.au (secure)] |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 11/30/2022 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NASA's Orion spacecraft has reached more than 432,000km from Earth — the farthest distance scheduled on its Artemis I mission and the farthest any spacecraft built for humans has travelled. Quoting: any thing More: [link to www.abc.net.au (secure)] Be a damn shame if a certain someone happened to be tracking it last night with a pair of telescopes to directly measure its distance using parallax. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76796436 United States 11/30/2022 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78034789 I don’t have to “deny” the so-called points in the video. They are all easily debunked with 5 minutes of research. Nope, they cannot be debunked…keep shilling… |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 11/30/2022 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don’t have to “deny” the so-called points in the video. They are all easily debunked with 5 minutes of research. Nope, they cannot be debunked…keep shilling… Wrong. Takes five seconds to see how ridiculous and bullshit the claims are. https://twitter.com/_/status/1597387686926589972 Earth is a globe. Get over it. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 12/07/2022 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NASA's Orion spacecraft has reached more than 432,000km from Earth — the farthest distance scheduled on its Artemis I mission and the farthest any spacecraft built for humans has travelled. Quoting: any thing More: [link to www.abc.net.au (secure)] Be a damn shame if a certain someone happened to be tracking it last night with a pair of telescopes to directly measure its distance using parallax. Be a damn shame indeed... |
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Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 12/07/2022 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can't measure distance using parallax if the background is moving and you don't know the rate or the distance features in the background are moving at. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79336278 The background is light years away, it does not display detectable parallax with a baseline of just two spots on the earth. It only displays parallax with a much longer baseline. You are dismissed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79336278 United States 12/07/2022 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can't measure distance using parallax if the background is moving and you don't know the rate or the distance features in the background are moving at. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79336278 The background is light years away, it does not display detectable parallax with a baseline of just two spots on the earth. It only displays parallax with a much longer baseline. You are dismissed. you don't know how far the background is or how fast its moving. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 12/07/2022 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can't measure distance using parallax if the background is moving and you don't know the rate or the distance features in the background are moving at. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79336278 The background is light years away, it does not display detectable parallax with a baseline of just two spots on the earth. It only displays parallax with a much longer baseline. You are dismissed. you don't know how far the background is or how fast its moving. Wrong. |
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Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 12/07/2022 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is NASA testing a new type of radiation shield, a plasma based radiation shield and hull design? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84888545 Plasma shield? No, it's a heavier capsule though with greater areal density than Apollo. "Recent spacecraft such as the International Space Station (ISS) or Orion capsule developed as an exploration mission crew transfer vehicle have an average of about 20 g/cm2 equivalent aluminum shielding, which is used in risk calculations." [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Apollo only had 7 to 8 g/cm^2 roughly ( [link to science.thewire.in (secure)] ), which was fine for the trajectory and mission duration it had, but would not be sufficient for the longer missions of Artemis, not to mention the more elliptical parking orbit has them lingering in a higher radiation zone before the TLI burn even happens. [link to drive.google.com (secure)] |