Rapture^

Not the Church...


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BTW - That's not what 'parousia' means ... you did not take my advice.


It's not who the Lord Returns to, but what does the Lord Return for.

There is no purpose for the Church in the Tribulation.

Which is why the Two Witnesses and the 144,000 witnesses

take over the job of bearing witness of Yeshua HaMashiach to Israel.

"And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob"

There is ALWAYS a purpose for the Body of Christ.

Even in Tribulation ...

But not in God's Wrath, which is immediately AFTER Tribulation.

Wrong.

You fail to understand.

You can't see past yourself.

You are blinded.

According to a hyper-dispensationalist.

To be fair, I am dispensational also.

However, driven to extremes, hyper-dispensationalism is erroneous in it's extremities.

Thus sayeth you.

You have your highest approval.

I see.

I understand.

I am not blind.

I am not hyper-dispensationalist either.

Hmm... the fullness of the Gentiles... hmm...

and then the Jwes... hmmm

you have no explanation whatsoever... hmmm.. imagine that..

We'll see...

You have proven it to me by your flawed hyper-dispensationalism.


There is ALWAYS a purpose for the Body of Christ.

There was a purpose for the Body of Christ in the early church, when the old testament program was still wrapping up before the destruction of the temple in 70AD.

Both programs were running simultaneously till the temple was destroyed and salvation was sent to the gentiles.


Explain that hyper-dispensationalist.

You see, anything taken to extremes falls off the edge.

NOT the Church...

That we shall.

Better have your rubbers on, cause the tish gets deep in the tribulation.

Because you have kept My command to persevere,
I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth.

Revelation 3:10


In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.

John 14:2,3


Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.

For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.

Isaiah 26:20:21


Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.

Zephaniah 2:3


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.

Psalms 27:5

"so Christ also, having been once offered to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, to them that wait for him, unto salvation."

To them that wait for Him unto Salvation, that's the Church.


BTW - it's not a THIRD time. Just ONE Second Coming.

"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season?
Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing.
Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods.
But if that evil servant says in his heart, 'My master is delaying his coming,'
and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards,
the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of,
and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Matthew 28:44-51

will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of,
and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Persevere .. through Tribulation. Perseverance, a virtue.

Hour of Trial = God's Wrath.

Hour of Trial -

Will the inhabitants of earth glorify God or continue to curse Him?

Some will be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming!



"But take heed to yourselves,
lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life,
and that Day come on you unexpectedly.
For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore,
and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man."


Luke 21:34-36

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Jesus said to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming.

Guess what that means?

That means some will be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming and to go stand with Jesus!

Jesus didn't tell us to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming
unless some will be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming.

That's what He said.

Do you believe Him?

I do.

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Do you?

He knows.

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What is the full verse?

The first half is:

"But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken"

A believer is not beating people and getting drunk.
That's not what a believer does ...

So apparently you are using half a verse out of context to support a flawed position on the timing of the Rapture.

Shame. Shame on you.