Rapture Believers! Have you ever read 2 Esdras that WAS in the 1611 KJV Bible?

Fear.

It's the biggest inhibitor of spiritual growth and stops most on their journey. Closed minds, and fear.

she will, when she's ready.

+1

Ol' ALLISNONEISALL can't turn down an opportunity to muck up a thread with her Urantia B.S. She is most definitely GLP's "Debby Downer".

And then there's this church of satan cocksucker who, judging by the blue haired overweight incels who are fellow satanists and could not get laid unless they paid for it, is adding more negativity to the thread.

I don't think they would make it to the point of anal coitus if Candace hits her morphine before the act.

Last Edited by Georgia_dawg on 12/17/2022 06:49 PM

I was once a full on rapture believer but the Father has shown me that there will still be His “Harvest”, just not as the churches are teaching. Jeremiah 3:14 describes a taking “one of a city and two of a family” for the Marriage at Zion. Those are two separate events as you can’t take “one of a city” (very small number) and “two of a family” (very large number) at the same time. I was shown that the small number would be taken, trained and returned to help bring in the “Harvest” of the larger group. This “Harvest” of the multitude that no man can number is suddenly brought before the Throne of Yah at the 6th seal (Rev. 7:9).

The first group “one of a city” is represented by the woman who delivers her child before she experiences any travail. You can read about her in Isaiah 66:7. The second group taken will experience MUCH travail. She is described in Revelation 12. The first group will help the second group “deliver” through their time in the wilderness…like “midwives”, I was shown. Evidence for this first group Being taken or “spared” is found in Malachi 3: 17-18. We are told there that the Father will “spare” some as He would a child who serves Him. Then they will “RETURN” to discern between the righteous and the wicked, between those who say they serve the Father and those who do not. He has shown me that when these (possibly the 144,000 from Revelation 14 -separate group from the 144,000 mentioned in Rev. 7) return, they will bear His countenance, just as Moses did when he was taken up on to Mt. Sinai into the Father’s presence and came down “glowing”(Exodus 34:29)! Evidence for this revelation is found in Isaiah 60:1-3, Daniel 12:3, Matthew 13:43 and the Transfiguration of YahuShua/Jesus. Just as there are 3 physical seasonal harvests (Barley, Wheat, and Grapes), there will be more than one Spiritual “Harvest”. “Barley” Harvest represents those who are Ready as His “Harvest Workers” (those from Malachi 3:17-18, Rev. 14) along with the innocent babies, children and those with child-like minds. Evidence for this is found in Isaiah 49 which describes this first group taken as well as Joel 2:16, both talk about this first group bringing the children with them. The second “Harvest” are the Wheat. This will take place right after the 6th seal (Rev. 7) and is described by YahuShua in the parable of the “Harvest of Wheat and Tares” (Matthew 13). The third “Harvest” is the Grapes. They will not be removed as the other two groups but will remain to endure the Fathers wrath, known as the “Winepress” of His Wrath. The only way to harvest grapes is through a “winepress” as described in Rev. 19:15.

So I agree that the “rapture” doctrine that the churches are teaching is totally false. But the Father WILL have His “Harvests” and He will use His “Harvest Workers” from Malachi 3:17-18 and Isaiah 49 to do it. To the prisoners they will say “Go Forth!” And to the wicked in the darkness, they will say “SHOW YOURSELVES”! (Isaiah 49:9). Oh yes, YHWH will have His Harvests!

May YHWH lift His countenance upon you! Keep His Commandments and your Faith in YahuShua (Rev. 14:11) for this is the Patience of His Saints and the “Whole Duty of Man” (Eccl. 12:13). YHWH does not change!

Peace.

Here's a game changer

The Gospel of Thomas

"When you see one who was not born of woman, fall on your faces and worship. That one is your Father."

Spot on.

There is no rapture, that is complete heresy. And use a Catholic Bible, not one where books have been removed and everything was re-translated, with hundreds of errors. Including this one.

Acts of the Apostles

Chapter 8

Persecution of the Church

*On that day, there broke out a severe persecution of the church in Jerusalem, and all were scattered throughout the countryside of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles.*

2Devout men buried Stephen and made a loud lament over him.

3Saul, meanwhile, was trying to destroy the church;* entering house after house and dragging out men and women, he handed them over for imprisonment.b

III. The Mission in Judea and Samaria

Philip in Samaria.

4Now those who had been scattered went about preaching the word.c

5Thus Philip went down to [the] city of Samaria and proclaimed the Messiah to them.d

6With one accord, the crowds paid attention to what was said by Philip when they heard it and saw the signs he was doing.

7For unclean spirits, crying out in a loud voice, came out of many possessed people, and many paralyzed and crippled people were cured.e

8There was great joy in that city.

Simon the Magician.

9A man named Simon used to practice magic* in the city and astounded the people of Samaria, claiming to be someone great.

10All of them, from the least to the greatest, paid attention to him, saying, “This man is the ‘Power of God’ that is called ‘Great.’”

11They paid attention to him because he had astounded them by his magic for a long time,

12but once they began to believe Philip as he preached the good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, men and women alike were baptized.f

13Even Simon himself believed and, after being baptized, became devoted to Philip; and when he saw the signs and mighty deeds that were occurring, he was astounded.

14Now when the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent them Peter and John,

15who went down and prayed for them, that they might receive the holy Spirit,

16for it had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.*

17Then they laid hands on them and they received the holy Spirit.g

18* When Simon saw that the Spirit was conferred by the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money

19and said, “Give me this power too, so that anyone upon whom I lay my hands may receive the holy Spirit.”

20But Peter said to him, “May your money perish with you, because you thought that you could buy the gift of God with money.

21You have no share or lot in this matter, for your heart is not upright before God.

22Repent of this wickedness of yours and pray to the Lord that, if possible, your intention may be forgiven.

23For I see that you are filled with bitter gall and are in the bonds of iniquity.”

24Simon said in reply, “Pray for me to the Lord, that nothing of what you have said may come upon me.”

25So when they had testified and proclaimed the word of the Lord, they returned to Jerusalem and preached the good news to many Samaritan villages.

Philip and the Ethiopian.*

26Then the angel of the Lord spoke to Philip, “Get up and head south on the road that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza, the desert route.”

27So he got up and set out. Now there was an Ethiopian eunuch, a court official of the Candace,* that is, the queen of the Ethiopians, in charge of her entire treasury, who had come to Jerusalem to worship,h

28and was returning home. Seated in his chariot, he was reading the prophet Isaiah.

29The Spirit said to Philip, “Go and join up with that chariot.”

30* Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?”

31He replied, “How can I, unless someone instructs me?” So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him.i

32This was the scripture passage he was reading:j

“Like a sheep he was led to the slaughter,

and as a lamb before its shearer is silent,

so he opened not his mouth.

33In (his) humiliation justice was denied him.

Who will tell of his posterity?

For his life is taken from the earth.”

34Then the eunuch said to Philip in reply, “I beg you, about whom is the prophet saying this? About himself, or about someone else?”

35Then Philip opened his mouth and, beginning with this scripture passage, he proclaimed Jesus to him.

36k As they traveled along the road they came to some water, and the eunuch said, “Look, there is water. What is to prevent my being baptized?”

37*

38Then he ordered the chariot to stop, and Philip and the eunuch both went down into the water, and he baptized him.

39When they came out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord snatched Philip away, and the eunuch saw him no more, but continued on his way rejoicing.l

40Philip came to Azotus, and went about proclaiming the good news to all the towns until he reached Caesarea.m

Is this the Catholic Bible? Or some random translation filled with the usual errors??

Only the Catholic Bible is accurate. There was never any reason to translate others, except to confuse people and lead them away from GOD.

That's the dumbest shit I've ever read.

Now we know why this writing is NOT Scripture.

If you don't understand that. It means Christ was the 'star',
an Aeon(a being of light). Thats how they travel. There was no star, sun or planetary alignment.

Your the dumbshit.

You’re welcome. We all just want truth right?!

From what I’ve read about the Apocrypha (removed books) is they were deemed not inspired scripture as the reason by scholars. Yet there’s still references to them in the 66 canon even by Yahusha - Yeshua himself.

What I’ve discovered so far is books like Enoch and Ezra/Esdras are mostly about end times, that’s disturbing. Btw, doctrines like the Rapture were formed AFTER these books were removed and NOT beforehand, that’s suspicious in itself.

I’m still learning.

That video I posted came up when I was searching for teachings on the 12 Tribes, I clicked on it out of curiosity obviously, because the title said “The Left Behind are Blessed”. I didn’t know about Esdras scripture till I watched it, then I searched out the scripture to confirm. That’s why I shared it.

It is the famous chapter 8 about the Holy Spirit fanimesting in people and how it works against magicians teleportation angels etc. Its in the international recog ized Bible I think???

Nice Saturn imagery all over the intro to that video. Real slick...

and you believe and push rapture if I recall... it is not possible and Jesus is not going to ride his horse across the sky and pick up 2 billion people . Meat suits do NOT go to Heaven... and no meat suit of Jesus did either as he INCARNATED here .. no sky daddy used a Dick to create one son. Not to say there have not been etx here who had kids.

the 12 tribes were humans from OTHER WORLDS who came to help repopulate the planet after the BIGGY axis shift 12,500 years ago. That axis shift made the grand canyon in a day or so.

Ditto and 100% agreed. It was not hard for my family and I to refuse the jab, nor was it hard to tell everyone we know and had contact with to refuse the jab - and why to refuse it. We told them exactly what it was - a genocide jab that alters your God-given DNA. My passion for this fight is extremely strong and will never waiver.

We dove down the rabbit hole about 30+ years ago and have thoroughly enjoyed learning ALL truths.

Thank you for this OP. We just recently (past few years)
began researching the deception of not only the rapture, but the Bible and missing books of the Bible as well. The Bible has been destroyed by TPTB for decades/centuries.

Never give up, never give in.

The rapture was never part of traditional Christian thinking.

The notion was grafted on to Christianity by Scofield around 1830.

The whole notion of the Third Temple rebuilt in Israel to reinstitute animal sacrifice is major anti Christian thinking.

Jesus was the final sacrifice for all times, for all sin, and for everyone.

Son, you are terribly, horribly broken.

I need to do some reading about the Apocrypha. I wonder if explanations were written about the removal of each book. It would be good to have their explanations.

Anything to deviate away from the topic at hand, that’s slick to me!

Just read Esdras then, you don’t need to watch the video.

lolssss, whose explanations? From the ones who removed them? hahahaha

Little surprise people....Religion was created as a means to control the masses.....

Your welcome....

Feel free to believe in a creator/God though.....

I know...

imagery and symbolism are extremely important and should absolutely be paid attention to.