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Did you know Jesus historically WAS NOT BORN IN DECEMBER....This is a proven FACT so what ARE you celebrating?

 
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Merry Christmas
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According to the Vatican it's a pagan Holiday!! Lol :
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Christ was born at midnight Dec 25th. Enemies of the Church and the truth are many. Every year we have this nonsense, it's a pagan holiday. No, it's Christ's birthday, which the devil, then defiles by creating a "pagan holiday".

All the important dates are known to the Church, which GOD founded, the birthday of the Blessed Virgin Mary is September 8th, for example.
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"Christ" is not a proper name, it is a title. Jesus of Nazareth was born in October.
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Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, was born Dec 25th as I said. Do you really think the Church that he personally founded has lied to you for 2,000 years over a birthday?

This is just another fake attack to discredit the Church.
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OP is an egotistical a@$hole. So what? It’s a lovely holiday and the idea that a newborn baby can save humanity is a beautiful idea. Most non Christians know how we celebrate it is not inherently Christian. wgas

The origins of the celebration are interesting

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Because "when in Rome......".

Pretty sure Jesus said that, so....
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According to the Vatican it's a pagan Holiday!! Lol :
 Quoting: Iamu 83679089


Read and learn

Wikipedia (“Star of Bethlehem”) briefly describes the opinions of attorney Rick Larson who produced the much-viewed video documentary The Star of Bethlehem in 2007, concerning extraordinary celestial events during 3 and 2 BC:

Highlights include a triple conjunction of Jupiter, called the king planet, with the fixed star Regulus, called the king star, starting in September 3 BC.

. . . nine months later, . . . Jupiter had continued moving in its orbit around the sun and appeared in close conjunction with Venus in June of 2 BC. . . .

Jupiter next continued to move and then it stopped in its apparent retrograde motion on December 25 of 2 BC over the town of Bethlehem.

“Retrograde motion” of planets (particularly Jupiter) is an illusion caused by the earth’s rotation: of a planet temporarily moving in the opposite direction from where it “should” go (in its orbit). As an analogy, when we pass a car on the freeway, it temporarily seems to be moving backwards.

I provided biblical and historical arguments for Jesus being born on Dec. 25, in a previous NCR article (Dec. 18, 2018). That can easily be harmonized with the present analysis. John the Baptist would have been conceived in September, 4 BC and born in June, 3 BC, while Jesus (six months younger: Luke 1:36) was conceived in March 3 BC (the Annunciation) and born on Dec. 25, 3 BC.
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christs birth
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According to the Vatican it's a pagan Holiday!! Lol :
 Quoting: Iamu 83679089


It's always you who're destined for hells eternal flame that tries to tell us that are heaven bound how to celebrate and worship.

My response?

Fuck off and enjoy the heat, assholes!
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Yeah no shit OP
now shove it up your ass
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Jesus was not born in the flesh December 25. His conception was December 25. That is when the Holy Spirit came into this world. Jesus was born in the flesh in September. IMHO:

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God requires us to place him/his word first. The dates and records are for man's understanding and not of great importance. God isreal.
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I thought you knew; we celebrate the Conception of Christ at Christmas. Take that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Yep, it's Paganism celebrated by a symbolic tree and practiced at the Wiccan Winter Solstice...

The Christmas Tree symbolizes Mother Earth and is glorified like the Golden Calf/Bull statue. Gifts are placed underneath this tree like an offering...

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MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
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Does the birth of Christ (in your mind) really have to be celebrated on a particular day?

A true Christian knows that his birth can and should be celebrated on any or all given days.
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Jesus never existed
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Jesus was not born in the flesh December 25. His conception was December 25. That is when the Holy Spirit came into this world. Jesus was born in the flesh in September. IMHO:

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That does not work as the BVM visited the mother of John the baptist who lept in the womb upon the visit. John the baptist was further along than Jesus and was born accordingly late fall early winter.
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Jesus never existed
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There is still time for you. Find peace in his name.
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According to the Vatican it's a pagan Holiday!! Lol :
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Birth of Mithras

Same Mithra that the Roman soldiers at the time of Jesus crucifixion would've been bound to by an oath.
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It's in the encyclopedia!
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If The Letter J Wasn’t Invented Until The 1500’s, Then How Is It Possible For There To Be A “Jesus”??

The Messiah name was never Jesus and since they changed the Messiah name to Jesus they broke the law of Deuteronomy 4:2 it says do not add and remove from scriptures this means do not change the names

And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered. 2 aThis census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria. 3 So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city.

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Feliz NAVIDAD.
 Quoting: Elsion


Yup also everyone pronounces Julius Caesar’s name wrong today. Back in his time his name as pronounced as Eulius Kaiser.

That’s why the title Kaiser lived on and English speakers due to their translation for all purposes changed his name by pronouncing it very differently
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The birth of Jesus can be celebrated every day!

Luke 2:8-11 (New King James Version)

Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night. And behold, an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid. Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold,

I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
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Pick a day…Dec 25, seems like a nice day.
So since everyone thinks they know the actual day…which they cannot.
We worship Jesus every day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71088931


But it’s about the winter solstice, the days are getting longer, it’s sun worship, not “The Son”. Same as Sunday worship instead of the Sabbath.

To me Christianity is a False Religion today, Protestant is just an off shoot of Catholicism.
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And Atheism is just an offshoot of Satanism.
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Yes. We know. Smug people remind us every year, several times.

We're not celebrating Christmas, we're celebrating the birth of our Savior.

Nobody cares when Christ was actually born, we're just happy He was sent to save our souls.
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Winter Solstice.
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According to the Vatican it's a pagan Holiday!! Lol :
 Quoting: Iamu 83679089


Christ was born at midnight Dec 25th. Enemies of the Church and the truth are many. Every year we have this nonsense, it's a pagan holiday. No, it's Christ's birthday, which the devil, then defiles by creating a "pagan holiday".

All the important dates are known to the Church, which GOD founded, the birthday of the Blessed Virgin Mary is September 8th, for example.
 Quoting: jlee2027


"Christ" is not a proper name, it is a title. Jesus of Nazareth was born in October.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84979655


Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, was born Dec 25th as I said. Do you really think the Church that he personally founded has lied to you for 2,000 years over a birthday?

This is just another fake attack to discredit the Church.
 Quoting: jlee2027


Yes, I do. I think they lied about a lot of things.
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The Bible shows Jesus was born 6 mths. after John who was born in the Spring. That means Jesus was born end of Sept. Or
beginning of 0ct.
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The Urantia Book knows and your bible does not. there are not dates in it.

Jesus AGAIN was born Aug 21.. 7 bc ... that is the know date of the records keeping of celestials. That would be converted to our calendar of today because I think the years were measured differently in BC.

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bsflag bsflag bsflag

NOPE. shitrantia book is channeled, new-age, trash just like the phony phoenix journals....which is where you get your date. The bible knows, shitrnatia book does NOT.





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