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NATO armies drained by Ukraine conflict

 
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The fighting in Ukraine has “exposed flaws in US strategic planning” and “revealed significant gaps” in the US and NATO military industrial base, the Washington Post reported on Friday. As Kiev’s forces consume more ammunition than the West can produce, the Pentagon seeks to cope by training them to fight more like Americans.

“Stocks of many key weapons and munitions are near exhaustion, and wait times for new production of missiles stretches for months and, in some cases, years,” the Post noted in a piece detailing how the US has funneled some $20 billion in military aid to Kiev this year. Only $6 billion of that has been in new weapons contracts, while the rest came from the Pentagon stockpiles, the outlet added.

The US military-industrial complex can produce about 14,000 rounds of ammunition for the 155-mm howitzers per-day, the Post quoted US Army Secretary Christine Wormuth, while Ukrainian forces go through about 6,000 a day during heavy fighting.

The US military-industrial complex is “in pretty poor shape right now,” Seth Jones of the Washington-based think tank Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) told the Post.

“We are really low… and we’re not even fighting,” Jones said, adding that in scenarios where the US is facing China or Russia in a conventional conflict, “we don’t make it past four or five days in a war game before we run out of precision missiles.”

Washington’s allies in Europe are in similar shape, the Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday. Michal Strnad, owner of a Czech ammunition conglomerate, said Ukraine chews through 40,000 rounds a month, while all of the European NATO members put together can produce 300,000 a year.

“European production capacity is grossly inadequate,” Strnad said, adding that it would take up to 15 years to restock at current production rates, if the conflict were to somehow end tomorrow.

Moscow has repeatedly warned the US and its allies that shipments of increasingly modern and long-range weapons could lead to a direct confrontation between Russia and NATO, and accused the West of prolonging the conflict and causing civilian deaths in Ukraine.

While Western officials have demanded a ramp-up of production for months, recent EU legislation blocked many investments into weapons manufacturing by designating it “not sustainable,” according to the Journal. Germany is now in the process of funding a factory in Romania that could produce both NATO and Soviet-caliber ammunition for Ukraine.

The Pentagon is trying to deal with the problem by training Ukrainian troops to “fight more like Americans” and use different tactics, according to the Post.

“I think if we can train larger formations — companies, battalions — on how to employ fires, create conditions for maneuver, and then be able to maneuver like you’ve seen [the US military] maneuver on the battlefield, then I think we’re in a different place. Then you don’t need a million rounds” of artillery, a senior US official – who did not wish to be named – told the outlet.

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Re: NATO armies drained by Ukraine conflict
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they just want more cash. just the theatre of bilking the tax payer and driving the people into poverty. all sides are working with that single shared goal. like the republicans and democtracts who work tirelessly together to destroy the united states. don't fall for this bs people. the only pocket that is getting drained is yours.
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So EUrope and USA armies are basically boomer armies?
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Hmmmm, same as draining strategic oil reserves. I wonder what they geriatric aasset was put in there for?
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they just want more cash. just the theatre of bilking the tax payer and driving the people into poverty. all sides are working with that single shared goal. like the republicans and democtracts who work tirelessly together to destroy the united states. don't fall for this bs people. the only pocket that is getting drained is yours.
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dude, these bots need to refer to reverse repo market. they print 2 trillion out of thin air every night, but they come up with schemes to get the money? wtf dude
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bidendid
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Russians are getting slaughtered by the thousands, had to mobilize troops, and have to beg for weapons from Iran and N North Korea. But yeah, it's NATO armies who are drained. lmfao
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Russians are getting slaughtered by the thousands, had to mobilize troops, and have to beg for weapons from Iran and N North Korea. But yeah, it's NATO armies who are drained. lmfao
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Listen turd, everybody knows it true.

Go suck on Zelenskys dick.
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Russia has shown they are very capable of fighting a war against nato in ukraine.

Tel aviv, washington, and london cannot stand this.
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Russia has shown they are very capable of fighting a war against nato in ukraine.

Tel aviv, washington, and london cannot stand this.
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You're precious. Russia isn't even facing professional western troops, let alone western armor and aircraft.
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propoganda
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future of NATO

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propoganda
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Yer scared.

lolatu
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I cant wait for putin and xi to destroy europe and america for good.

Fuck white supremacy.
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The Russians are employing their long game approach to this conflict...

...that is none of our business.

The Russians know suffering, deprivation they can live with. We can't and our Republic will fall because of out involvement here.
Fear God and Dread Nought.
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I cant wait for putin and xi to destroy europe and america for good.

Fuck white supremacy.
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You will have a long time to wait.
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I cant wait for putin and xi to destroy europe and america for good.

Fuck white supremacy.
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You will have a long time to wait.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80848200


I dont care. Im just a putin shill that wants every white christian on earth to die sp tjat we can have glibal communism and our grandkids will have a chinese boot on their neck forever.

That is what i want as a putin shill you fucking nazi.





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