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"Why won't Christians Fight?" - Christianity is not Pacifism. Christians must start really fighting back before it's too late

 
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Why won't Christians Fight?

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"So why won’t Christians fight? They won’t fight because they are under the influence of Church leaders who themselves don’t know their own history and have adopted the heresies of Antinomianism (we should only preach the Gospel), Marcionism (we should love, love, love just like “Nice Jesus”) or “woke” Montanism. It is not WWJD (what would Jesus Do) to allow a Communist takeover of our country. It is a demonic heresy. If Christians understood and followed the biblical teaching expounded in the biblically based Just War Theory, we’d have started fighting long before it got to this point."

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by Wyatt Thomas:

The actual daily practice of Christianity is a conundrum that swims against the tide of human nature and often even against the stark truths laid out in Scripture itself. Christ’s statement, “The poor you will always have with you” has not prevented some very commendable Christian attempts to alleviate poverty. Likewise, despite Christ’s foretelling of “wars and rumors of wars,” His followers constantly strive to “Give peace a chance.” The personal motivations for such actions are often noble. After all, we are told to live peaceably if it is at all possible and to care for those truly in need such as widows and orphans. However, not taking into consideration “the whole counsel of God” based on Christ’s command to be “wise as serpents” easily leads Christians into being constantly outsmarted by “the children of this world who are wiser in their generation than the children of light.” The effort to defend oneself in the court of public opinion while living according to biblical standards can easily twist Christians into a Useful Idiot knot. This has enabled an unsustainable welfare state while our national sovereignty is destroyed by Enemies Within.

Because for the most part Christians do not know their own history and only focus on the highlights they think matter (first there was Jesus, then the Apostle Paul wrote the New Testament, then the KJV fell out of the sky in 1611, and now there’s the Last Days of today when we’re supposed to lose ground to Satan because it will make the Rapture happen faster) there is no coherent defense against the repeated heresies which arise like vampires with each succeeding generation and require proper biblical exegesis and historical knowledge to stake them in the heart. Three of the earliest heresies that have come around again disarming Christians and causing them to preemptively surrender our civilization are Antinomianism (disregard of the Old Testament, especially the law), Marcionism (rejection of the “mean God” of the Old Testament in favor of the much nicer Jesus), and Montanism (belief in new revelation not based in Scripture). Even though the Old Testament is filled with violent acts, many at the direction of God Himself, and the New Testament uses the imagery of soldiers and warfare to describe the Christian life, because of the teachings of some of the early Church Fathers who embraced these heresies, Christianity took on a shroud of pacifism which has not been easy to shake off when the need has arisen.

Some strains of historical Christian pacifism arose unintentionally in defending against false claims. The second century Christian leader Athenagoras of Athens defended the Church against heinous charges of cannibalism in the partaking of the Lord’s Supper (“this is My flesh…this is My blood”) by pointing out that Christians would not even spectate at the gladiator games because “to see a man put to death is much the same as killing him.” It was not difficult to take this proper biblical argument against death for sport and turn it into a wider argument against death for self-defense much as “Love your neighbor” has been distorted into the tyranny of “Wear a mask and take the jab.”

The early church father Tertullian to whom we owe the term “Trinity” and the idea of “Church” as an actual building but who later fell into Montanism, took this anti-violence stance even further by declaring that military service itself was a sin because “no man can serve two masters.” This is the clothing of personal belief in a Scriptural veneer and then making it a command for others. We see the same thing today when pacifist Christians argue against personal gun ownership under the commandment “Thou shalt not kill” and then push to infringe upon the Second Amendment Rights of others.

The early church father Lactantius inadvertently planted the Woke seeds of “toxic masculinity” and “Love, Love, Love” by arguing that it was sinful to even personally defend oneself. “[A Christian] must at all times and in all places guard innocence. And this precept is not limited to this, that he should not himself inflict injury, but that he should not avenge it when inflicted on himself.” This belief led to arguments not only against unprovoked warfare, but also against “just warfare” in a good cause.

The pushback against these heresies by Early Church Christians who pointed to the abundance of God sanctioned violent acts in the Bible were discounted out of hand by Marcionites who rejected the “mean God” of the Old Testament and solely focused on the “nice” New Testament by fashioning a Christ of their own design who shared none of the violent traits of His Heavenly Father – much like the Winsome Hippy Jesus of American Christianity who is all about loving and affirming sinners. This led to Early Church heretics such as Origen interpreting inconvenient passages as merely metaphorical. We see this in Christians who believe spiritual warfare can only be fought on their knees.

This is not to disregard the noble martyrdom of untold thousands and thousands of Christians under the centuries of Roman rule. But there’s more to the story than the religiously romantic notion of converting to Christianity and then being fed to the lions as public entertainment. Except during times of extreme targeted persecution such as that under the reign of Diocletian and Nero and a few others for much shorter periods, Christians for the most part were left alone unless they were individually seen as a challenge to TPTB. Christians were not devoured by wild beasts in the arena every single day, because the authorities saw how counterproductive it was to send these brave individuals to horrific deaths in front of public spectators as persecution only made their numbers grow. Even though the Early Church Christians in whole most likely outnumbered the Roman armies, there never was an armed insurrection against them. This is not necessarily owing to pacifism, but, rather, to the reality that an armed rebellion by Christians against the massive power of Rome would have been as successful as one launched by the millions of Christians in Communist China today. America, though, is not Ancient Rome or even Communist China. Our surrender to evil and cluelessly speaking of “suffering persecution for Christ” has nothing in common with the Early Church’s state of affairs. The Apostle Paul, who used every legal method at his disposal to “fight the power” even to the point of appealing to Caesar, would slap us silly for allowing a once Christian society to descend below the depths of Sodom. American Christians will not suffer noble martyrdom, but, rather, the ignoble fate of Lot.

Christ’s command in Luke 22:36 to “sell your cloak and buy a sword” was as troublesome to pacifistic Early Church leaders as it is for today’s “just turn the other cheek” advocates. It is interesting to note that these men of the first through third centuries lived during a time of national stability under a strong Roman government. The Caesars of their day were pagan, but the laws were clear and enforced and their national and individual safety were secured by a strong military. But by the 4th century AD, Rome was in sharp decline, its government irretrievably corrupt, and its citizens faced an existential threat from invading barbarians. It was then that Christians began to question in earnest the prospect of self-defense versus pacifism and it was a Church leader of that time, Augustine of Hippo, who formulated the Just War Theory which created the blueprint for WWJD type warfare western nations have tried to follow. The conditions are: having a just cause, being a last resort, being declared by a proper authority, possessing right intention, having a reasonable chance of success, and the end being proportional to the means used. These conditions are all laid out in A New Declaration Of Independence.

So why won’t Christians fight? They won’t fight because they are under the influence of Church leaders who themselves don’t know their own history and have adopted the heresies of Antinomianism (we should only preach the Gospel), Marcionism (we should love, love, love just like “Nice Jesus”) or “woke” Montanism. It is not WWJD to allow a Communist takeover of our country. It is a demonic heresy. If Christians understood and followed the biblical teaching expounded in the biblically based Just War Theory, we’d have started fighting long before it got to this point.

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America is an easy target for the Globalists because America, a Christian nation, has been trained to be passive and not fight back. Wake up!

Onward Christian Soldiers

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Who do we fight..please tell us
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Why aren't you fighting?
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65 million have already been slaughtered.

Do we fight their killers?
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Prayer warrior sending prayers out!hf
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So why won’t Christians fight?

They won’t fight because they are under the influence of Church leaders who themselves don’t know their own history and have adopted the heresies of Antinomianism (we should only preach the Gospel), Marcionism (we should love, love, love just like “Nice Jesus”) or “woke” Montanism.

It is not WWJD (what would Jesus Do) to allow a Communist takeover of our country. It is a demonic heresy.

Christians think they are supposed to let the Globalists (Satan) walk all over us. This is pure nonsense.

Wake up and stand up! Many of Your Pastors trained to be cowards. Be courageous.
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I guess what you do

is give yourself a bad ass name

and then write about other people not doing anything.

That's fighting...
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You're Renegade, right?
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65 million have already been slaughtered.

Do we fight their killers?
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We've murdered 65 million of ourselves.

How do we fight the murderers?

How murders in your family?
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It's not that those who identify as christians won't ... It is that it takes exhaustion of all other options first ... Because when they bring the pain as the "good" and "bad" from the good/bad/evil breakdown they don't stop. There are no more words, there is action until full resolve.
It won't be a fight, it will be a slaughter of evil by the good and bad among us as we unite to take our planet back from satanists and their pawns.
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65 million have already been slaughtered.

Do we fight their killers?
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We've murdered 65 million of ourselves.

How do we fight the murderers?

How many murders in your family?
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Who do we fight..please tell us
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Ex. Stand up against LGBT incursions into the schools.
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THERE IS NO SAVING THIS COUNTRY.

THERE IS CALLING INDIVIDUALS OUT.
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Who do we fight..please tell us
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Ex. Stand up against LGBT incursions into the schools.
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I'm standing.

Are you?

Now what?
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65 million have already been slaughtered.

Do we fight their killers?
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We've murdered 65 million of ourselves.

How do we fight the murderers?

How many murders in your family?
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This doesn't require bullets. We are fighting 21st Century asymmetrical and information wars.
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not every idiot who deep down would prefer to be dead should be allowed to waste your time and put you (a highly functioning member of society) in a legal gray area that can end up ruining your life (and thus negatively impacting society as a whole). you didn't care about the person or anything they had to say before they started to bother you, you wouldn't care about them or anything they have to say any more or less after a needless conflict whether they survived or not. people try to turn nothing (themselves/their failure of a life) into something (getting your attention/injuring you to the point they think you start to take them seriously, when in reality its only the fact they're harming society unimpeded and how many innocent others they might bother/harm next. no different than a faulty piece of machinery) and you need to not let them. when possible. society only benefits from these people if they die/get injured or arrested. society only loses when you do. they know this. its an unbalanced and disproportionate risk you should avoid whenever possible. this is what cops are for.

it's important to know how to defend yourself if they ever catch you alone or outnumber you though. some people won't let you live in peace..
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Why aren't you fighting?
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America will burn soon.
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Got marshmallows?
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Christians are slaves for the J.
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We are long past repentance.

We are Judgment.

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Christians are slaves for the J.
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YOU are slave to SATAN.

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SATAN HAS ALWAYS WANTED THE EXTERMINATION OF THE JWES.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHY...


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Most of christidom has been pacified by the Catholic Church, basically to tame that older Christian spirit and belief in God.

After all people always seem to forget about the Crusades and Holy orders of warriors. Joan of Arcs Christian warriors etc. Christians use to be fighters with balls of steel, it’s right there in history.

This pacifist shit in only a modern invention to keep people from resisting the evil taking the world over.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis.

The F in Communism stands for Food.

"FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
WAR IS PEACE.
STAYING APART BRINGS US TOGETHER." NWO Mantra
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Most of christidom has been pacified by the Catholic Church, basically to tame that older Christian spirit and belief in God.

After all people always seem to forget about the Crusades and Holy orders of warriors. Christians use to be fighters with balls of steel, it’s right there in history.

This pacifist shit in only a modern invention to keep people from resisting the evil taking the world over.
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Most people

including most "Christians"

are not true believers in Jesus Christ.


Few there are


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Most of christidom has been pacified by the Catholic Church, basically to tame that older Christian spirit and belief in God.

After all people always seem to forget about the Crusades and Holy orders of warriors. Christians use to be fighters with balls of steel, it’s right there in history.

This pacifist shit in only a modern invention to keep people from resisting the evil taking the world over.
 Quoting: VampPatriot


Most people

including most "Christians"

are not true believers in Jesus Christ.


Few there are



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85074847


clappa

So true, they are only believers in the bastardized version of what the church says, not true believers in Christ
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You clearly don’t know Jesus or the Bible either

Jesus Was attacked by a murderer… And said to turn the other cheek… If that’s not pacifism…

He did not say take up arms
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They are too busy waiting to be raptured.
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"But why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do the things which I say?"

Luke 6:46



"When once the Master of the house has risen up and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock at the door, saying, 'Lord, Lord, open for us,' and He will answer and say to you, 'I do not know you, where you are from,'

Luke 13:25



"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

"Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'

"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

"Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock:

"and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.

"But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand:

"and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall."


And so it was, when Jesus had ended these sayings, that the people were astonished at His teaching,

for He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.



Matthew 7:21-29





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