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Breaking news! 2 days after 2 planes nearly Collide in NYC at JFK 2 other planes smash into each other as pilot shortage continues!

 
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Breaking news! 2 days after 2 planes nearly Collide in NYC at JFK 2 other planes smash into each other as pilot shortage continues!
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A JetBlue plane bound for Puerto Rico struck the tail of another company jetliner in the gate area at JFK Airport on Wednesday morning – just days after two planes almost collided on a runway.

The plane “came into contact with a parked unoccupied aircraft during pushback,” JetBlue spokesman Derek Dombrowski told The Post in an email.



Flight 1603 returned to the gate, no injuries were reported, and the flight has been assigned to another aircraft. Safety is JetBlue’s first priority, and both aircraft involved will be taken out of service for inspection and the incident will be investigated,” he added.


The Federal Aviation Administration said in a statement that “Flight 1603 struck the tail of a parked JetBlue aircraft while pushing back from the gate around 7 a.m. The flight was going to Luis Muñoz Marin International Airport in San Juan, Puerto Rico. Both aircraft were Airbus 320s.”


The bump follows a scary incident at JFK on Friday the 13th, when two planes almost collided.

A Delta Air Lines Boeing 737 aborted its takeoff as an American Airlines plane crossed the runway.

Delta Flight 1943 returned to the gate and ordered its 145 passengers and six crew members off. It was rescheduled for the next morning and customers were given hotel rooms for the night.

American Flight 106 was bound for London Heathrow airport.
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Re: Breaking news! 2 days after 2 planes nearly Collide in NYC at JFK 2 other planes smash into each other as pilot shortage continues!
2 almost collide at LAX a few days a go.
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Re: Breaking news! 2 days after 2 planes nearly Collide in NYC at JFK 2 other planes smash into each other as pilot shortage continues!
Just in case you never heard of this happening before. (I picked only one year and a few articles):

2014
CHICAGO – Two Delta Airlines aircraft have collided on the tarmac at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport.
[link to www.foxnews.com (secure)]

2014
Planes from American Airlines and Southwest Airlines collided at LaGuardia Airport this morning at about 11 a.m.
[link to www.wfmynews2.com (secure)]

2014
Two passenger planes narrowly avoided a mid-air collision at Newark Liberty airport in New Jersey last month.
[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]

2014 *
Tarmac trouble: Runway close calls soar!

****** There were 341 reported runway incidents – known in the aviation industry as "runway incursions."

Near runway collisions involving commercial airplanes climbed two-thirds from 2003 to 2013 at U.S. airports to a rate of nearly one per day, as a shift to major hubs led to increased traffic in most of those cities.
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Re: Breaking news! 2 days after 2 planes nearly Collide in NYC at JFK 2 other planes smash into each other as pilot shortage continues!
[link to nypost.com (secure)]

A JetBlue plane bound for Puerto Rico struck the tail of another company jetliner in the gate area at JFK Airport on Wednesday morning – just days after two planes almost collided on a runway.

The plane “came into contact with a parked unoccupied aircraft during pushback,” JetBlue spokesman Derek Dombrowski told The Post in an email.



Flight 1603 returned to the gate, no injuries were reported, and the flight has been assigned to another aircraft. Safety is JetBlue’s first priority, and both aircraft involved will be taken out of service for inspection and the incident will be investigated,” he added.


The Federal Aviation Administration said in a statement that “Flight 1603 struck the tail of a parked JetBlue aircraft while pushing back from the gate around 7 a.m. The flight was going to Luis Muñoz Marin International Airport in San Juan, Puerto Rico. Both aircraft were Airbus 320s.”


The bump follows a scary incident at JFK on Friday the 13th, when two planes almost collided.

A Delta Air Lines Boeing 737 aborted its takeoff as an American Airlines plane crossed the runway.

Delta Flight 1943 returned to the gate and ordered its 145 passengers and six crew members off. It was rescheduled for the next morning and customers were given hotel rooms for the night.

American Flight 106 was bound for London Heathrow airport.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80363016



The Pilots in the cockpit had NO CONTROL over this incident.
The ground crew on the Tug pushing the jet back off the gate screwed up.

Why?

Because years ago airlines used to use Trained, Certificated Aircraft Mechanics to drive the tugs for this process then to save monies they trained ground crews...baggage handlers to operate the tugs and I m guessing it was one of those non certificated operators at the controls.
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Re: Breaking news! 2 days after 2 planes nearly Collide in NYC at JFK 2 other planes smash into each other as pilot shortage continues!
the upper atmosphere is completely safe and effective

there is nothing wrong with the atmosphere and it certainly isn't harming the pilots with radiation.

swamp gas!
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Re: Breaking news! 2 days after 2 planes nearly Collide in NYC at JFK 2 other planes smash into each other as pilot shortage continues!
Just in case you never heard of this happening before. (I picked only one year and a few articles):

2014
CHICAGO – Two Delta Airlines aircraft have collided on the tarmac at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport.
[link to www.foxnews.com (secure)]

2014
Planes from American Airlines and Southwest Airlines collided at LaGuardia Airport this morning at about 11 a.m.
[link to www.wfmynews2.com (secure)]

2014
Two passenger planes narrowly avoided a mid-air collision at Newark Liberty airport in New Jersey last month.
[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]

2014 *
Tarmac trouble: Runway close calls soar!

****** There were 341 reported runway incidents – known in the aviation industry as "runway incursions."

Near runway collisions involving commercial airplanes climbed two-thirds from 2003 to 2013 at U.S. airports to a rate of nearly one per day, as a shift to major hubs led to increased traffic in most of those cities.
[link to www.13newsnow.com (secure)]
 Quoting: nutmeg


And since that period RIs have dropped dramatically due to concentrated training for crews and added cockpit procedures to prevent Runway Incursions along with signage and other technology developments specific to protecting the runways from unauthorized entry.


LOTS of prevention/tools but its the flight crews end responsibility to maintain Situational Awareness and follow company/FAA rules and guidelines.
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Re: Breaking news! 2 days after 2 planes nearly Collide in NYC at JFK 2 other planes smash into each other as pilot shortage continues!
the upper atmosphere is completely safe and effective

there is nothing wrong with the atmosphere and it certainly isn't harming the pilots with radiation.

swamp gas!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72794081


Actually not true, frequent fliers-flight crews are bombarded with natural radiation on every flight similar to experiencing several chest xrays especially if flying in the upper latitudes.,,,,,,Pacific and Atlantic ocean crossings.

Todays jets are designed to fly at higher altitudes for fuel efficiency than the previous generations exacerbating this risk.
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Re: Breaking news! 2 days after 2 planes nearly Collide in NYC at JFK 2 other planes smash into each other as pilot shortage continues!
the upper atmosphere is completely safe and effective

there is nothing wrong with the atmosphere and it certainly isn't harming the pilots with radiation.

swamp gas!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72794081


Actually not true, frequent fliers-flight crews are bombarded with natural radiation on every flight similar to experiencing several chest xrays especially if flying in the upper latitudes.,,,,,,Pacific and Atlantic ocean crossings.

Todays jets are designed to fly at higher altitudes for fuel efficiency than the previous generations exacerbating this risk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82403362


it's called sarcasm.
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Re: Breaking news! 2 days after 2 planes nearly Collide in NYC at JFK 2 other planes smash into each other as pilot shortage continues!
hmmm i wonder what are the signs of ionizing radiation exposure??

hmm i wonder?

(flu + heart arrhythmia)
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Re: Breaking news! 2 days after 2 planes nearly Collide in NYC at JFK 2 other planes smash into each other as pilot shortage continues!
pray for cloudy days.
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